Goonersworld

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:48 pm**

sometimes ozil is , how to say, like a cipehr in games... seems to disappear... or rather never really appears? anyway, if this is what the manager sees in training, perhaps it puts him off? mourinho got rid of and called him a coward. wenger called him a perfect player. a perfect player can do no wrong.

is it his back still? just speculating...

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:48 pm**

Nejch wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:
Nejch wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:Still wanna know how Ozil didn't even deserve (emery's words) to be in the squad. Was he that bad in training? Was there a bust up or something?

To be honest, I seriously doubt that there's any substance behind that claim. As I've mentioned in the Emery thread, he seems to dodge and deflect a lot, and fails to take responsibility, which worries me a lot, since the demagoguery and arrogance was probably what I hated the most about our previous manager.

I'm not claiming that is what happened, I am specualting upon Emery's strong language.

I mean, there isn't any plausible way that "deserve" gets lost in translation. So, it's either a complete fabrication by the manager for unknown reasons, or he actually meant it.

It may just be trying to justify his team selection or he has a grudge with Ozil, not for anything specific I reckon but because he just doesn't like him as a player. Ozil seems to lack some qualities that Emery rates highly, such as tracking back, work rate, and the like. I'm quite disappointed that he can only see him in that regard and doesn't recognize that he is vital in some matches like today.

I don't think so. He's said as much before when he has left Ozil out for "tactical reasons". He didn't say that today, and I believe he said it purposely and deliberately.

Whether that reason was right or wrong, I don't know, as I don't know the details, but it's pretty strong language.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:59 pm**

Yep its one thing to not start a player, but to pretty much show that you dont even want him as an option in a squad that is lacking depth already is just disgusting. As far as Im aware, Ozil has conducted himself in a professional manner ever since he arrived here, so what gives...

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:05 pm**

Gooner_LK6 wrote:Yep its one thing to not start a player, but to pretty much show that you dont even want him as an option in a squad that is lacking depth already is just disgusting. As far as Im aware, Ozil has conducted himself in a professional manner ever since he arrived here, so what gives...

Ozil has played his card perfectly by being quiet and professional.

Here's what I think is happening. The board wants to free up Ozil's wages and have instructed Emery to force him out of the team so Ozil asks to be sold. Ozil has called Emery's bluff and is completely fine sitting out collecting paychecks. That way, not only does Ozil's value plummets, he also paints Emery and the board into a corner with an unwanted player on big wages that is not being used.

f**k Emery and the board.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:27 pm**

Gooner_LK6 wrote:Yep its one thing to not start a player, but to pretty much show that you dont even want him as an option in a squad that is lacking depth already is just disgusting. As far as Im aware, Ozil has conducted himself in a professional manner ever since he arrived here, so what gives...

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:35 pm**

Gooner_LK6 wrote:Yep its one thing to not start a player, but to pretty much show that you dont even want him as an option in a squad that is lacking depth already is just disgusting. As far as Im aware, Ozil has conducted himself in a professional manner ever since he arrived here, so what gives...

The club wants to force Özil out of the club so they don't have to pay his horrendous wage.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:40 pm**

So why give him that wage?? FFS, it was only a year ago they gave him his new contract!!

That argument makes no sense.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:44 pm**

Losmeister wrote:sometimes ozil is , how to say, like a cipehr in games... seems to disappear... or rather never really appears? anyway, if this is what the manager sees in training, perhaps it puts him off? mourinho got rid of and called him a coward. wenger called him a perfect player. a perfect player can do no wrong.

is it his back still? just speculating...

Mourinho was not at Real Madrid when Ozil was sold.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:46 pm**

theHotHead wrote:So why give him that wage?? FFS, it was only a year ago they gave him his new contract!!

That argument makes no sense.

Gazidis was the boss back then.

If you noticed the whole agenda against Özil within the club started when Gazidis left and Raul Sanllehi took over.
I'm not surprised about this since Sanllehi worked many years for Barcelona.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:55 pm**

Sell Ozil and win the League? I'm not sure what people are expecting.

The part you aren't realizing is that we won't be signing any world class player as long as Emery is here. Forget transfer fees, I doubt any world class player would want to play for Emery after the Neymar/Ozil incident.

He's fallen out with three of the biggest players he's managed.

People here are assuming that we will sign some top players once Ozil is gone. Well, get ready to overpay for Everton-tier player as we consolidate our grip on 6th place.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:56 pm**

theHotHead wrote:So why give him that wage?? FFS, it was only a year ago they gave him his new contract!!

That argument makes no sense.

It doesn't make sense because It's bollocks.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:58 pm**

Win the league? Lol hahahahaha. Yeah u need money to do that. This is about top 4 at best and ozil still not getting into squad. I'll say this again ozil had his own sick day situation long before emery started giving him the yank. I'llnesss here illness there

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:59 pm**

indy23 wrote:Win the league? Lol hahahahaha. Yeah u need money to do that. This is about top 4 at best and ozil still not getting into squad. I'll say this again ozil had his own sick day situation long before emery started giving him the yank. I'llnesss here illness there

Daily reminder we've spent more money than Liverpool since 2014.*

*net spend

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:05 pm**

indy23 wrote:Win the league? Lol hahahahaha. Yeah u need money to do that. This is about top 4 at best and ozil still not getting into squad. I'll say this again ozil had his own sick day situation long before emery started giving him the yank. I'llnesss here illness there

He was ill a lot but this time its clear there is an agenda against him because he was fit today.

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:10 pm**

Godlop wrote:Gazidis was the boss back then.

If you noticed the whole agenda against Özil within the club started when Gazidis left and Raul Sanllehi took over.
I'm not surprised about this since Sanllehi worked many years for Barcelona.

Its just a shitty way of dealing with it, if thats the case. Results are being affected when we dont have our best players on the bench.

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