theHotHead wrote:Goonerz wrote:theHotHead wrote:Goonerz wrote:Phil71 wrote:VCC wrote:jayramfootball wrote:theHotHead wrote:jayramfootball wrote:aniym wrote:And now we're back to "build the team around Ozil".
No other "top" player in the PL, including Ozil, needs the kind of coddling you're talking about.
He's just finished at this level and has been for a long time.
It's got nothing to do with building the team around Ozil.
It's about better players being the squad that will amake the most of Ozil's obvious talents.
You can bitch, whine and create straw man arguments all you like - Ozil with crap players around him is not going to save us. He is not and never has been that type of player even at the very height of his career.
So, go ahead, next time we lose or play poorly because the whole team didn;t play well, continue to be upset that Ozil didn't put on a one man show to overcome for you. We can put up with the same BS whining because we know it's not going to change a thing.
Its incredible that these obvious posts have to be made. In a team lacking real quality some people think that getting rid of the true quality we have is a good idea!!
The plan should be increase quality, not lower it - which is symptomatic of Arsenal during Wenger's last 10 years. We have begun to improve it, actually beginning in Wenger's last seasons but that was tempered with signings like Elneny, Mustafi and Xhaka, so one step forward and one step back, so zero net gain with Wenger.
It improved under Emery for sure which is why Emery doing so poorly - with a better squad than Wenger's last - is a damning indictment of Emery. Lets keep improving quality, we should absolutely not sell someone that will improve another team.
Unfortunately the obvious seems to have to be stated.
Ozil in the Liverpool or City teams would be a superstar.
De Bruyne, for example, in our team would be just like Ozil. A talented player, neat, tidy, skilled, but not able to turn matches we are playing poorly in.
Ozil would never be picked by klopp not even on a free
And if you think De Bruyne would be the same as Ozil for us,you clearly dont watch the two from an attitude perspective. One leaves his guts and desire on the pitch more so if it's not working for him, one leaves his guts and desire back on the play station,
Yep.
Deluded to think Ozil would get anywhere near these teams where it's demanded that every player busts a gut in every game.
The ozil fanboys have been making the same argument since Ozil’s second season here.
“Put ozil in this current City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Barcelona team etc and he would break records blah blah”.
They are so myopic when it comes to him. They have this shallow simplistic way of reasoning. What they fail to see is that all these teams look good because all the players have worked and still work hard together as a team. Not a single player in those sides is afforded these cringeworthy exceptions to just lazy around while everyone else is busting a leg.
There is a reason why since he’s been here not a single big club has ever tried to sign him. All he ever gets are Chinese, Turkish, MLS and PSG rumours.
The guy run down his contract and still the likes of City, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool, City etc said “No thank you”.
Why is that?
How is Ozil lazy when he runs more than most if not all of the current players in the team and has done and proven for years ?!!!!
Get your head out of your arse you pleb.
There is a difference between jogging for 90 minutes every game than pressing and closing down with intensity.
Ozil having better distance stats compared to the likes of KDB, Sanchez etc tells you all you need to know about how misleading stats are when taken out of contest. Lol
Anyone who thinks that Ozil’s distance covered stats mean he runs and presses hard with purpose then you are deluded.
Ozil will jog at the same lazy pace from minute 1 to minute 90. No change in intensity whatsoever. It’s like he is conserving energy throughout each match.
For example; Ozil will typically jog at the same low energy pace towards an opposition player that is in possession of the ball. This is where you expect that sudden burst of pace towards that player, you would expect Ozil to press that player with a bit of intensity. But what our Ozil normally does is jog towards that player, no intensity or conviction. And once he gets closer to that player he looks like a little puppy that ain’t got a clue what do do. First off, they hold him off so easily because he is so weak physically. He will then do his signature foot dangle (dangles his leg out) and that is that. Lol.
I bet you every opposition player in possession of the ball laughs when they see Ozil jogging towards them. They will be thinking to themselves “Aww, here comes trouble, here comes the jogger”.
But I like your deduction and loyalty towards Ozil. You always fight his good fight even if there is nothing left to hold onto. Pure dedication
And you have yet to answer my question.
You guys keep on repeating this hypothetical “Put Ozil in this current Liverpool, City, Bayern, Barcelona team and he will break records blah blah”.
How come those clubs have never tried to sign him. He has been here for more than 6 years. What has ever stopped them from coming in for him? The likes of Ramsey, Sanchez etc were being fought for. How come that it’s only you the Ozil fans club see that think he would walk into those club’s starting 11 and break records? The managers at those clubs seem to agree with us the Ozil critics. They have all had chance after chance to go for him, he even made it so easy by running down his contract. But still none of any big clubs tried to sign him. Apart from rumours about Turkish, Chinese, MLS clubs and PSG.
Why is that?
Mate you are full of shit ! So I provide stats that show Ozil runs as far as everyone else but you come back with "its the wrong type of running"
The same people dissing Ozil diss the chances created stats because they are the "wrong type of chances being created"
f***ing bunch of jokers with piss poor arguments.
At least I am not full of Ozil's shit like you are.. You have your little head buried so deep inside Ozil's rectum that you don't even smell his shit anymore.
Ozil's is a jogger.. He will jog around for 90 minutes at the same low energy pace. It does not matter if he is trying to win the ball back, he will just keep jogging at the same low energy pace.. Only people that bury their heads in the sand would say otherwise.
And I don't know how old you are but you come off as a typical social media type of troll by the way you engage with people. You seem to have this triggered "I am always right" kind of attitude. And when your bubble is burst you turn to swearing and cuzzing.
Sometime you sound like an adult but most times you come off as some juvenile social media troll that turns to speech like;
"You have been REKT."
"DESTROYED"
"Rude Boi" etc..
I will tell you a secret. You are not the most intelligent person in the world.S so just debate people's opposing opinion without turning to swearing / cussing etc..
And you are yet to answer my question..
If Ozil is as amazing you lot keep claiming then how come no big club has ever come in for him since he has been here? He literally ran down his contract and still no one came in, apart from the Chinese, Turkish, Arabian clubs and PSG.
PSG has been the most consistent club in this, I remember when Madrid got rid of him, it was Arsenal and PSG that came in for him. No other so called serious Big Club even tried.
Bad exit to his Madrid stay. They got Rid.
Bad exit to his Germany National team career. They got rid.
Bad ending to his Arsenal career etc. We have been trying to get rid since 2018..
Can you see a pattern here?
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