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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby elkanofan » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:58 pm

What's pissed me even more now is Laca his friend seemed to almost make a point when he went off and upped his pressing as soon as Willock came on. As if he knows just how pathetic Ozil is and how his game which is now already destroyed is so bad when you alone with Ozil who can maybe find you with a pass every now and then but will be hiding, missing when you need an attacking mid to help link the play.

Its not even as if the young players look up to him. Even our teammates now seem fed up by his presence.

This is a disaster.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:18 pm

This is a guy who never adjusted to losing Giroud, Alexis and Walcott in the same window. He has zero chemistry with the replacements, who now rely on the fullbacks to create scoring opportunities.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:33 pm

elkanofan wrote:What's pissed me even more now is Laca his friend seemed to almost make a point when he went off and upped his pressing as soon as Willock came on. As if he knows just how pathetic Ozil is and how his game which is now already destroyed is so bad when you alone with Ozil who can maybe find you with a pass every now and then but will be hiding, missing when you need an attacking mid to help link the play.

Its not even as if the young players look up to him. Even our teammates now seem fed up by his presence.

This is a disaster.


WTF are you talking about?
Laca was awful all game and Willock was a disaster.

You just create fantasy to underpin your Ozil obsession.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:34 pm

elkanofan wrote:If Ozil was that good PSG would have him already. Another big club would of brought or at least loaned him.

He's a wasteman. Leaching wages off the club.

I knew as soon as he was starting we would be shit and sadly i was right. He doesn't move anymore in the final third and is super easy to play against since all he can do is pass f***ing sideways now.

Why we didn't tell him to f**k off in January and get a player in and work instead with a new signing, Ceballos and Willock will once again be our downfall.

This guy has no legacy at our club, this season has been disastrous and is looking like getting worse with so much of this malaise could of been avoided if we got rid of this guy and use those wages to reinvest in our attacking mids.

Arrogant d***head who's wages are more important than AFC progressing.

f**k off and f**k you Ozil.


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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:36 pm

He is awful
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:41 pm

King of Highbury XIV wrote:
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Nobody apart from Auba has performed well for the past 18 months and even then Auba has been dogshit poor for periods, the saving grace is he continued to score goals.

Ozil has performed poorly not due to talent or even form. Just look at the car crash that was Emery, the 15-18 months of his tenure was a f***ing nightmare for the club - not even taking into account he had it in for Ozil the entire time. How can anyone perform in that environment?!

Now lets look a little further back, what quality did Ozil have around him? Coquelin, Elneny, Xhaka, Iwobi, Walcott :rofll:

Need I say any bloody more!

What makes you think he had it in for Ozil? Because he benched him? I guarantee you if Arteta had options, he would bench Ozil too. I’m sorry I’m not buying into the new storyline that Emery wanted to show Ozil up. Emery needed Ozil to do go to succeed. You do know Ozil smokes, consistently drinks coffee and doesn’t give two craps about his nutrition. Same guy who is pictured going to get pizza at midnight before a game. You don’t think that has something to do with why he can’t even play 60min at full intensity? And you’re going to sit there and trash the rest of the team? He’s the leader, he’s the highest earner, he sets the example and he sure as hell set a good one.

Have you been in a cave or something? The man came to the club and said he wanted Ozil to work harder, marginalised Ozil and then dropped him to make a point.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Was the best Arsenal player up until he went off.

But but but it was Ozil's fault we drew.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Goonerz » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:11 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
aniym wrote:And now we're back to "build the team around Ozil".

No other "top" player in the PL, including Ozil, needs the kind of coddling you're talking about.

He's just finished at this level and has been for a long time.


It's got nothing to do with building the team around Ozil.
It's about better players being the squad that will amake the most of Ozil's obvious talents.
You can bitch, whine and create straw man arguments all you like - Ozil with crap players around him is not going to save us. He is not and never has been that type of player even at the very height of his career.
So, go ahead, next time we lose or play poorly because the whole team didn;t play well, continue to be upset that Ozil didn't put on a one man show to overcome for you. We can put up with the same BS whining because we know it's not going to change a thing.

Its incredible that these obvious posts have to be made. In a team lacking real quality some people think that getting rid of the true quality we have is a good idea!!

The plan should be increase quality, not lower it - which is symptomatic of Arsenal during Wenger's last 10 years. We have begun to improve it, actually beginning in Wenger's last seasons but that was tempered with signings like Elneny, Mustafi and Xhaka, so one step forward and one step back, so zero net gain with Wenger.

It improved under Emery for sure which is why Emery doing so poorly - with a better squad than Wenger's last - is a damning indictment of Emery. Lets keep improving quality, we should absolutely not sell someone that will improve another team.


Unfortunately the obvious seems to have to be stated.
Ozil in the Liverpool or City teams would be a superstar.
De Bruyne, for example, in our team would be just like Ozil. A talented player, neat, tidy, skilled, but not able to turn matches we are playing poorly in.

Ozil would never be picked by klopp not even on a free
And if you think De Bruyne would be the same as Ozil for us,you clearly dont watch the two from an attitude perspective. One leaves his guts and desire on the pitch more so if it's not working for him, one leaves his guts and desire back on the play station,


Yep.

Deluded to think Ozil would get anywhere near these teams where it's demanded that every player busts a gut in every game.

The ozil fanboys have been making the same argument since Ozil’s second season here.
“Put ozil in this current City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Barcelona team etc and he would break records blah blah”.
They are so myopic when it comes to him. They have this shallow simplistic way of reasoning. What they fail to see is that all these teams look good because all the players have worked and still work hard together as a team. Not a single player in those sides is afforded these cringeworthy exceptions to just lazy around while everyone else is busting a leg.
There is a reason why since he’s been here not a single big club has ever tried to sign him. All he ever gets are Chinese, Turkish, MLS and PSG rumours.
The guy run down his contract and still the likes of City, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool, City etc said “No thank you”.
Why is that?
:think:

How is Ozil lazy when he runs more than most if not all of the current players in the team and has done and proven for years ?!!!!

Get your head out of your arse you pleb.

There is a difference between jogging for 90 minutes every game than pressing and closing down with intensity.
Ozil having better distance stats compared to the likes of KDB, Sanchez etc tells you all you need to know about how misleading stats are when taken out of contest. Lol

Anyone who thinks that Ozil’s distance covered stats mean he runs and presses hard with purpose then you are deluded.

Ozil will jog at the same lazy pace from minute 1 to minute 90. No change in intensity whatsoever. It’s like he is conserving energy throughout each match.
For example; Ozil will typically jog at the same low energy pace towards an opposition player that is in possession of the ball. This is where you expect that sudden burst of pace towards that player, you would expect Ozil to press that player with a bit of intensity. But what our Ozil normally does is jog towards that player, no intensity or conviction. And once he gets closer to that player he looks like a little puppy that ain’t got a clue what do do. First off, they hold him off so easily because he is so weak physically. He will then do his signature foot dangle (dangles his leg out) and that is that. Lol.

I bet you every opposition player in possession of the ball laughs when they see Ozil jogging towards them. They will be thinking to themselves “Aww, here comes trouble, here comes the jogger”. :lol: :rofll:

But I like your deduction and loyalty towards Ozil. You always fight his good fight even if there is nothing left to hold onto. Pure dedication :clap:

And you have yet to answer my question.
You guys keep on repeating this hypothetical “Put Ozil in this current Liverpool, City, Bayern, Barcelona team and he will break records blah blah”.
How come those clubs have never tried to sign him. He has been here for more than 6 years. What has ever stopped them from coming in for him? The likes of Ramsey, Sanchez etc were being fought for. How come that it’s only you the Ozil fans club see that think he would walk into those club’s starting 11 and break records? The managers at those clubs seem to agree with us the Ozil critics. They have all had chance after chance to go for him, he even made it so easy by running down his contract. But still none of any big clubs tried to sign him. Apart from rumours about Turkish, Chinese, MLS clubs and PSG.

Why is that?

Mate you are full of shit ! So I provide stats that show Ozil runs as far as everyone else but you come back with "its the wrong type of running" :rofll: :rofll:

The same people dissing Ozil diss the chances created stats because they are the "wrong type of chances being created" :rofll: :rofll:

f***ing bunch of jokers with piss poor arguments.

At least I am not full of Ozil's shit like you are.. You have your little head buried so deep inside Ozil's rectum that you don't even smell his shit anymore.

Ozil's is a jogger.. He will jog around for 90 minutes at the same low energy pace. It does not matter if he is trying to win the ball back, he will just keep jogging at the same low energy pace.. Only people that bury their heads in the sand would say otherwise.

And I don't know how old you are but you come off as a typical social media type of troll by the way you engage with people. You seem to have this triggered "I am always right" kind of attitude. And when your bubble is burst you turn to swearing and cuzzing.
Sometime you sound like an adult but most times you come off as some juvenile social media troll that turns to speech like;
"You have been REKT."
"DESTROYED"
"Rude Boi" etc..

I will tell you a secret. You are not the most intelligent person in the world.S so just debate people's opposing opinion without turning to swearing / cussing etc..

And you are yet to answer my question..
If Ozil is as amazing you lot keep claiming then how come no big club has ever come in for him since he has been here? He literally ran down his contract and still no one came in, apart from the Chinese, Turkish, Arabian clubs and PSG.
PSG has been the most consistent club in this, I remember when Madrid got rid of him, it was Arsenal and PSG that came in for him. No other so called serious Big Club even tried.

Bad exit to his Madrid stay. They got Rid.
Bad exit to his Germany National team career. They got rid.
Bad ending to his Arsenal career etc. We have been trying to get rid since 2018..

Can you see a pattern here?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:25 pm

Goonerz wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
aniym wrote:And now we're back to "build the team around Ozil".

No other "top" player in the PL, including Ozil, needs the kind of coddling you're talking about.

He's just finished at this level and has been for a long time.


It's got nothing to do with building the team around Ozil.
It's about better players being the squad that will amake the most of Ozil's obvious talents.
You can bitch, whine and create straw man arguments all you like - Ozil with crap players around him is not going to save us. He is not and never has been that type of player even at the very height of his career.
So, go ahead, next time we lose or play poorly because the whole team didn;t play well, continue to be upset that Ozil didn't put on a one man show to overcome for you. We can put up with the same BS whining because we know it's not going to change a thing.

Its incredible that these obvious posts have to be made. In a team lacking real quality some people think that getting rid of the true quality we have is a good idea!!

The plan should be increase quality, not lower it - which is symptomatic of Arsenal during Wenger's last 10 years. We have begun to improve it, actually beginning in Wenger's last seasons but that was tempered with signings like Elneny, Mustafi and Xhaka, so one step forward and one step back, so zero net gain with Wenger.

It improved under Emery for sure which is why Emery doing so poorly - with a better squad than Wenger's last - is a damning indictment of Emery. Lets keep improving quality, we should absolutely not sell someone that will improve another team.


Unfortunately the obvious seems to have to be stated.
Ozil in the Liverpool or City teams would be a superstar.
De Bruyne, for example, in our team would be just like Ozil. A talented player, neat, tidy, skilled, but not able to turn matches we are playing poorly in.

Ozil would never be picked by klopp not even on a free
And if you think De Bruyne would be the same as Ozil for us,you clearly dont watch the two from an attitude perspective. One leaves his guts and desire on the pitch more so if it's not working for him, one leaves his guts and desire back on the play station,


Yep.

Deluded to think Ozil would get anywhere near these teams where it's demanded that every player busts a gut in every game.

The ozil fanboys have been making the same argument since Ozil’s second season here.
“Put ozil in this current City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Barcelona team etc and he would break records blah blah”.
They are so myopic when it comes to him. They have this shallow simplistic way of reasoning. What they fail to see is that all these teams look good because all the players have worked and still work hard together as a team. Not a single player in those sides is afforded these cringeworthy exceptions to just lazy around while everyone else is busting a leg.
There is a reason why since he’s been here not a single big club has ever tried to sign him. All he ever gets are Chinese, Turkish, MLS and PSG rumours.
The guy run down his contract and still the likes of City, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool, City etc said “No thank you”.
Why is that?
:think:

How is Ozil lazy when he runs more than most if not all of the current players in the team and has done and proven for years ?!!!!

Get your head out of your arse you pleb.

There is a difference between jogging for 90 minutes every game than pressing and closing down with intensity.
Ozil having better distance stats compared to the likes of KDB, Sanchez etc tells you all you need to know about how misleading stats are when taken out of contest. Lol

Anyone who thinks that Ozil’s distance covered stats mean he runs and presses hard with purpose then you are deluded.

Ozil will jog at the same lazy pace from minute 1 to minute 90. No change in intensity whatsoever. It’s like he is conserving energy throughout each match.
For example; Ozil will typically jog at the same low energy pace towards an opposition player that is in possession of the ball. This is where you expect that sudden burst of pace towards that player, you would expect Ozil to press that player with a bit of intensity. But what our Ozil normally does is jog towards that player, no intensity or conviction. And once he gets closer to that player he looks like a little puppy that ain’t got a clue what do do. First off, they hold him off so easily because he is so weak physically. He will then do his signature foot dangle (dangles his leg out) and that is that. Lol.

I bet you every opposition player in possession of the ball laughs when they see Ozil jogging towards them. They will be thinking to themselves “Aww, here comes trouble, here comes the jogger”. :lol: :rofll:

But I like your deduction and loyalty towards Ozil. You always fight his good fight even if there is nothing left to hold onto. Pure dedication :clap:

And you have yet to answer my question.
You guys keep on repeating this hypothetical “Put Ozil in this current Liverpool, City, Bayern, Barcelona team and he will break records blah blah”.
How come those clubs have never tried to sign him. He has been here for more than 6 years. What has ever stopped them from coming in for him? The likes of Ramsey, Sanchez etc were being fought for. How come that it’s only you the Ozil fans club see that think he would walk into those club’s starting 11 and break records? The managers at those clubs seem to agree with us the Ozil critics. They have all had chance after chance to go for him, he even made it so easy by running down his contract. But still none of any big clubs tried to sign him. Apart from rumours about Turkish, Chinese, MLS clubs and PSG.

Why is that?

Mate you are full of shit ! So I provide stats that show Ozil runs as far as everyone else but you come back with "its the wrong type of running" :rofll: :rofll:

The same people dissing Ozil diss the chances created stats because they are the "wrong type of chances being created" :rofll: :rofll:

f***ing bunch of jokers with piss poor arguments.

At least I am not full of Ozil's shit like you are.. You have your little head buried so deep inside Ozil's rectum that you don't even smell his shit anymore.

Ozil's is a jogger.. He will jog around for 90 minutes at the same low energy pace. It does not matter if he is trying to win the ball back, he will just keep jogging at the same low energy pace.. Only people that bury their heads in the sand would say otherwise.

And I don't know how old you are but you come off as a typical social media type of troll by the way you engage with people. You seem to have this triggered "I am always right" kind of attitude. And when your bubble is burst you turn to swearing and cuzzing.
Sometime you sound like an adult but most times you come off as some juvenile social media troll that turns to speech like;
"You have been REKT."
"DESTROYED"
"Rude Boi" etc..

I will tell you a secret. You are not the most intelligent person in the world.S so just debate people's opposing opinion without turning to swearing / cussing etc..

And you are yet to answer my question..
If Ozil is as amazing you lot keep claiming then how come no big club has ever come in for him since he has been here? He literally ran down his contract and still no one came in, apart from the Chinese, Turkish, Arabian clubs and PSG.
PSG has been the most consistent club in this, I remember when Madrid got rid of him, it was Arsenal and PSG that came in for him. No other so called serious Big Club even tried.

Bad exit to his Madrid stay. They got Rid.
Bad exit to his Germany National team career. They got rid.
Bad ending to his Arsenal career etc. We have been trying to get rid since 2018..

Can you see a pattern here?


He was excellent at Madrid, brilliant for Germany and the right at the top of the PL in terms of creativity in his first 4 years at Arsenal.
Let's not rewrite history, just because you were 'REKT'.

Perhaps when you can finally admit that Ozil has had a glittering career and is a world class talent, then we could discuss more on why over the last 18 months - 2 years he's below his best. Till then, you just sound like you want to stick pins in your Ozil voodoo doll.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:30 pm

theHotHead wrote:
King of Highbury XIV wrote:What makes you think he had it in for Ozil? Because he benched him? I guarantee you if Arteta had options, he would bench Ozil too. I’m sorry I’m not buying into the new storyline that Emery wanted to show Ozil up. Emery needed Ozil to do go to succeed. You do know Ozil smokes, consistently drinks coffee and doesn’t give two craps about his nutrition. Same guy who is pictured going to get pizza at midnight before a game. You don’t think that has something to do with why he can’t even play 60min at full intensity? And you’re going to sit there and trash the rest of the team? He’s the leader, he’s the highest earner, he sets the example and he sure as hell set a good one.

Have you been in a cave or something? The man came to the club and said he wanted Ozil to work harder, marginalised Ozil and then dropped him to make a point.


News flash; players who can't do what the manager wants, get dropped. Has nothing to do with 'making a point'.

Might be a new concept at Arsenal, where a certain manager gave Giroud a free run at CF for 5 years and handed out contract extensions like candy.

We have Arteta at the helm now and even he isn't putting up with Ozil's lack of impact. He gave him a long leash at the start, having him play 90 mins, and is now yanking him off at 60.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Goonerz » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:33 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
King of Highbury XIV wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:He's been our most creative player since he joined us.
His wage packet is irrelevant
He's not going to ever be worth a higher transfer fee than when he was at Real - he is older now and no one is going to pay that kind of money.

As for protection - calling out the stupid nonsense of blaming Ozil every time we don't win is not protection. It's simply being fair.
We all know that Ozil has not performed to his best standard for 18 months, but the utter BS that is spouted by those that keep blaming him for all our ills as a club is beyond pathetic.

The reason why I asked the question is because I am curious as this is a guy who hasn’t won anything of significance for us and one could argue that he has been a let down in some of our most critical games. And while he’s not the root of all of our problems like some unjustly claim, but he is a problem. Regardless of the pay, as you pointed out, he’s been underperforming for 18 months. How much more time do you give a player like that? He certainly isn’t giving his all for the club and his lifestyle is catching up to him. You could also call into question his national team fiasco after knowing he was no longer going to be selected. Arsenal fans and his fans deserve a lot better.


I will revert to the same obvious point - Ozil will not perform any better until he has better players around him.
That's just a fact. he will never be a player that turns a team around.


The majority of Arsenal fans deserve what they are getting. Very few were vocal enough to call out the teams decline when it could have been corrected - 10 years ago and those that did were attacked. The entire club was put in the toilet by Wenger and most fans at the time couldn;t see past their noses. As a collective fan base we're reaping what we sewed.

That is why some of us call him out for what he really is, A FLAWED FRAUD PLAYER.
You can keep burying your head in the Ozil sand but no one buys those kind of excuses anymore. It is 2020, not the 1800's..
Have you ever thought may be he is one of the poor players? And why Madrid got rid of him? Why Germany hounded him out? Why he has been divisive figure at Arsenal and we have been trying toget rid of him?

How come the clubs /teams that have these so called better world class players that would transform Ozil into messi never come in for him? May be they see it as some of have seen it for years "Ozil is overrated and overhyped". And may be he is part of the problems we have in our team.
You think Ozil is world class and all he needs are better players around him.. The likes of Barcelona, Madrid, Liverpool, City, Bayern, Juventus, United, Chelsea etc have all passed him on at each opportunity. He flippin ran down his contract and still nothing. Arsenal have tried to move him on since 2018 and nothing has come from the big clubs. Heard we even offered to subsidise some of his wages but only Turkish clubs and PSG rumours..

Why is that?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby elkanofan » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:38 pm

Goonerz wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
aniym wrote:And now we're back to "build the team around Ozil".

No other "top" player in the PL, including Ozil, needs the kind of coddling you're talking about.

He's just finished at this level and has been for a long time.


It's got nothing to do with building the team around Ozil.
It's about better players being the squad that will amake the most of Ozil's obvious talents.
You can bitch, whine and create straw man arguments all you like - Ozil with crap players around him is not going to save us. He is not and never has been that type of player even at the very height of his career.
So, go ahead, next time we lose or play poorly because the whole team didn;t play well, continue to be upset that Ozil didn't put on a one man show to overcome for you. We can put up with the same BS whining because we know it's not going to change a thing.

Its incredible that these obvious posts have to be made. In a team lacking real quality some people think that getting rid of the true quality we have is a good idea!!

The plan should be increase quality, not lower it - which is symptomatic of Arsenal during Wenger's last 10 years. We have begun to improve it, actually beginning in Wenger's last seasons but that was tempered with signings like Elneny, Mustafi and Xhaka, so one step forward and one step back, so zero net gain with Wenger.

It improved under Emery for sure which is why Emery doing so poorly - with a better squad than Wenger's last - is a damning indictment of Emery. Lets keep improving quality, we should absolutely not sell someone that will improve another team.


Unfortunately the obvious seems to have to be stated.
Ozil in the Liverpool or City teams would be a superstar.
De Bruyne, for example, in our team would be just like Ozil. A talented player, neat, tidy, skilled, but not able to turn matches we are playing poorly in.

Ozil would never be picked by klopp not even on a free
And if you think De Bruyne would be the same as Ozil for us,you clearly dont watch the two from an attitude perspective. One leaves his guts and desire on the pitch more so if it's not working for him, one leaves his guts and desire back on the play station,


Yep.

Deluded to think Ozil would get anywhere near these teams where it's demanded that every player busts a gut in every game.

The ozil fanboys have been making the same argument since Ozil’s second season here.
“Put ozil in this current City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Bayern, Barcelona team etc and he would break records blah blah”.
They are so myopic when it comes to him. They have this shallow simplistic way of reasoning. What they fail to see is that all these teams look good because all the players have worked and still work hard together as a team. Not a single player in those sides is afforded these cringeworthy exceptions to just lazy around while everyone else is busting a leg.
There is a reason why since he’s been here not a single big club has ever tried to sign him. All he ever gets are Chinese, Turkish, MLS and PSG rumours.
The guy run down his contract and still the likes of City, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Barcelona, Liverpool, City etc said “No thank you”.
Why is that?
:think:

How is Ozil lazy when he runs more than most if not all of the current players in the team and has done and proven for years ?!!!!

Get your head out of your arse you pleb.

There is a difference between jogging for 90 minutes every game than pressing and closing down with intensity.
Ozil having better distance stats compared to the likes of KDB, Sanchez etc tells you all you need to know about how misleading stats are when taken out of contest. Lol

Anyone who thinks that Ozil’s distance covered stats mean he runs and presses hard with purpose then you are deluded.

Ozil will jog at the same lazy pace from minute 1 to minute 90. No change in intensity whatsoever. It’s like he is conserving energy throughout each match.
For example; Ozil will typically jog at the same low energy pace towards an opposition player that is in possession of the ball. This is where you expect that sudden burst of pace towards that player, you would expect Ozil to press that player with a bit of intensity. But what our Ozil normally does is jog towards that player, no intensity or conviction. And once he gets closer to that player he looks like a little puppy that ain’t got a clue what do do. First off, they hold him off so easily because he is so weak physically. He will then do his signature foot dangle (dangles his leg out) and that is that. Lol.

I bet you every opposition player in possession of the ball laughs when they see Ozil jogging towards them. They will be thinking to themselves “Aww, here comes trouble, here comes the jogger”. [emoji38] :rofll:

But I like your deduction and loyalty towards Ozil. You always fight his good fight even if there is nothing left to hold onto. Pure dedication :clap:

And you have yet to answer my question.
You guys keep on repeating this hypothetical “Put Ozil in this current Liverpool, City, Bayern, Barcelona team and he will break records blah blah”.
How come those clubs have never tried to sign him. He has been here for more than 6 years. What has ever stopped them from coming in for him? The likes of Ramsey, Sanchez etc were being fought for. How come that it’s only you the Ozil fans club see that think he would walk into those club’s starting 11 and break records? The managers at those clubs seem to agree with us the Ozil critics. They have all had chance after chance to go for him, he even made it so easy by running down his contract. But still none of any big clubs tried to sign him. Apart from rumours about Turkish, Chinese, MLS clubs and PSG.

Why is that?

Mate you are full of shit ! So I provide stats that show Ozil runs as far as everyone else but you come back with "its the wrong type of running" :rofll: :rofll:

The same people dissing Ozil diss the chances created stats because they are the "wrong type of chances being created" :rofll: :rofll:

f***ing bunch of jokers with piss poor arguments.

At least I am not full of Ozil's shit like you are.. You have your little head buried so deep inside Ozil's rectum that you don't even smell his shit anymore.

Ozil's is a jogger.. He will jog around for 90 minutes at the same low energy pace. It does not matter if he is trying to win the ball back, he will just keep jogging at the same low energy pace.. Only people that bury their heads in the sand would say otherwise.

And I don't know how old you are but you come off as a typical social media type of troll by the way you engage with people. You seem to have this triggered "I am always right" kind of attitude. And when your bubble is burst you turn to swearing and cuzzing.
Sometime you sound like an adult but most times you come off as some juvenile social media troll that turns to speech like;
"You have been REKT."
"DESTROYED"
"Rude Boi" etc..

I will tell you a secret. You are not the most intelligent person in the world.S so just debate people's opposing opinion without turning to swearing / cussing etc..

And you are yet to answer my question..
If Ozil is as amazing you lot keep claiming then how come no big club has ever come in for him since he has been here? He literally ran down his contract and still no one came in, apart from the Chinese, Turkish, Arabian clubs and PSG.
PSG has been the most consistent club in this, I remember when Madrid got rid of him, it was Arsenal and PSG that came in for him. No other so called serious Big Club even tried.

Bad exit to his Madrid stay. They got Rid.
Bad exit to his Germany National team career. They got rid.
Bad ending to his Arsenal career etc. We have been trying to get rid since 2018..

Can you see a pattern here?
I think once Ozil finally drags us into a full fledged relegation battle they might start to wake up. That where we are heading with him playing for us every week in the league.

Destroys our attacking play every time, never takes risks and runs at players, doesn't even try risky passes, just passes sideways or backwards or gets easily tackled!

Willock was MOTM vs Bournemouth and showed promise in the hole. Even doing passes which Ozil should be doing like his brilliant cross field pass to help setup the 2nd goal. Willock has great movement on the ball which did help us a bit in this game even if everyone around him was sunken in the bad performance.

This is what we lack so badly. Someone who can move around and make things happen by himself and not rely on teammates. Ozil is a nothing player who as said by his deluded fanboys needs a whole new team around him to be good or even mildly effective.

JACK MOTHER f***ing GREALISH has bang average poverty like Wesley who now injured and championship level players around him yet has 7 goals and 6 assists is it now? Ozil has a killer in Auba infornt of him or alongsise him and can't create shit for him.

We are not winning many if any at all of our upcoming matches starting Ozil. He's past it, useless, overrated and only has a number of deluded fanboys who still wipe his ass wherever he goes no matter how rubbish he is. Sad state of affairs to be an Arsenal fan.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Goonerz » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:00 pm

theHotHead wrote:
King of Highbury XIV wrote:The one question that I want all Ozil supporters to answer is what has he done for the club since he’s been here to not only deserve this protection but to also earn his pay packet? As a bonus, has his transfer value ever been higher than when he was at Real?

Was a decisive factor in us breaking our trophy drought. The name "Ozil" alone lifted us, Rambo begun playing his best football with Ozil in the team.

In recent seasons his output has not matched his potential but I can easily put that down to having dimwitted managers for the past 3-4 seasons.

This reminds me of "My lucky socks". When I wore my lucky socks they prevented me from tripping over..
God od theGaps argument. "When I prayed to Jesus / Allah, I found my missing car keys.". So this means that prayer works and that the Abrahamic god is real.
Trying to correlate everything that might not even have any connection. All just because we want to make some sort of "CAUSATION"
You need to actually provide supporting evidence that Ozil was the Causation to us breaking our Trophy draught and also how he was the reason Rambo started playing well..

And on top of that, Was Ozil aso the reason we dropped out of the Top for after 20 years? Ishe the reason why we started finishing 5th, 6th etc? Because if I used your logic, We were a top 4 club for 20 years and the moment Ozil joined we started to drop out of the Top 4.
And is he also the reason we started being spanked with scorelines such as; 6-3, 6-0, 5-1, 5-2 constantly?

So basically all the good that has happened to Arsenal since 2013 has been due to Ozil being here. And all the bad that keeps happening is due to his average team mates, managers and club owners that make him look bad..
All Positives = Ozil
All Negatives = Ozil's average team mates and Managers.
It seems like a win win situation for him.
Right? :biggrin:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:31 am

Today sums up the issues very neatly, whilst Ozil didn't do anything particularly wrong he also didn't do anything particularly right ... in 63 minutes he attempted one shot which was blocked, he only once completed pass into the Burnley penalty area, he made one tackle and he got booked. Sure he looked good making pointless easy passes around the middle of the park but clearly not what Arteta wanted ... Willock in 27 minutes had a better pass rate, had 1 shot, made 1 key pass had more dribbles and made more tackles ... is Willock a better player? Quality wise probably not, but on yesterdays performance he brought more to our game in 27 minutes than Ozil did in 63 ...

Unless Ozil was injured it looks very much as if Arteta is getting the same feeling the last two managers had ... Ozil is simply not earning his place.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby King of Highbury XIV » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:25 am

In 11 games under Arteta Ozil has 0 goals and 1 assist and that one dude on here consistently says he’s the best player on the pitch XD. What are you watching? The game or Ozil’s dick print?
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