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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Dynamite » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:05 pm

"Classy bail out" after claiming alternative facts here while using snowflake arguments to blame the opposite party.
Indeed no need to argue at all here....
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Santi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:07 pm

Maybe you can support Juventus soon although then you’ll have to pick between ronaldo hatred and Ramsey loving :dontknow:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Dynamite » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:09 pm

So showing the truth about the wrong "made a pay cut for Arsenal claim" makes me a Özil hater.
You better take a tissue too...
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Santi » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:22 pm

Dynamite wrote:So showing the truth about the wrong "made a pay cut for Arsenal claim" makes me a Özil hater.
You better take a tissue too...


Dunno what that's gotta do with anything I posted, you deduced a label all for yourself.


Haven't once spoken about his ''paycut'' nor think it matters what he earns. People so hung up on his 350k yet advocate 200k pw for a player who can't stay in midfield and use the fact of the cost to replace him as a reason. Replacing Ozil would've cost us 40m minimum so take that off his wages over the years of his deal and see if you're still complaining.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Losmeister » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:05 pm

" People so hung up on his 350k yet advocate 200k pw "

is that Rambo?

anyway, its a bit too mysterious... SOMETHING IS UP.

maybe unai is the gomaniac angelito says he is? doesnt seem that way to me but wtf do i know?

or maybe Ozil is dogging it with these msyterious illnesses he been having for the last 2 seasons?
that alos doesnt seem that way to me... again, wtf do i know.

or a simple cash of styles/personalities.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby theHotHead » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:42 pm

Santi wrote:Ozil does press though so I don’t get Emery’s beef at all. He’s not a runner like Ramsey so if all you want is press then play Aaron but you’ll lose what else you get with Mesut and he hasn’t even been playing Ramsey anyway.

It all just stinks and I don’t understand it

Anyone that wants Ozil to press/defend is a f***ing idiot.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:55 pm

Why is he above pressing he isn't Henry or Ronaldo level, or won us a couple of pl titles.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Rockape » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:27 pm

Why is it so difficult to press, all he has to do is close down the defender with the ball, create an error and we win back possession.

Defending from the front is not new, I recall that Ian Rush was one of the first Centre forward/ defenders...he would sprint around closing down defenders and creating mistakes, which allowed his team to get the ball back. He just needs to be fitter than he obviously is, so he can manage that alongside his normal game.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby starmandb » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:14 pm

swipe right wrote:Worst Chelsea team in two decades. No center forward, no width and shit defense. Emery lucked out joining the league when there are only two good teams and yet he’s struggling for top four.

Chelea have 47 points from 23 games
Same stage
98/99 43 points
99/00 37
00/01 32
01/02 37
02/03 34
10/11 41
11/12 41
12/13 45
15/16 28
Spurs in third are on coarse (average points wise) for a greater points total than any third place finishing team in the last 20 years
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby starmandb » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:25 pm

Angelito wrote:
Santi wrote:I don't usually support this 'you don't like a player you're a hater' lark that goes on but Ozil detractors are true haters in the full sense of the word.

They wouldn't even want him to do well at this point because they'd look f***ing dumb.


It's not worth it.

No matter how logical an argument you pose.

No matter the stats.

No matter the influence he has on the team.

These haters are hounding him like rabid dogs. Don't really have faith in our fanbase as it's the dumbest in England and this forum is filled with dim-witted propagandists who want Ozil out because they simply dislike the man.

Not worth arguing with this lot.

You need to get out and about and meet more Arsenal fans if you believe that
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:56 pm

1019 pages. Never seen anything like it for one player.

People willing to shit on the entire Arsenal fan base for this player.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Luzh 22 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:30 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:Why is he above pressing he isn't Henry or Ronaldo level, or won us a couple of pl titles.


Henry had to press at Barca. When he didn't he got dropped.


And to answer your question, Ozil isn't above pressing, that's just what hothead and Angelito surmise (and perhaps the player himself).
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Angelito » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:15 am

I don't know where this myth that OzIl doesn't press has surfaced from. And I haven't said he's above pressing, so stop putting words in my mouth. Jeez.

Might I add, never has it been as damning and degrading to support one of the best players of the club your follow. It's as if some support another club.

Fans get shamed for supporting iconic and active club player. :dizzy:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Luzh 22 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:01 am

Myth? He's done it twice this season, and to good effect. The rest of the time, he doesn't. Myth. :lol:

I'm sure Emery also thinks it's a myth. He just conveniently drops Ozil for the sake of it. Ozil not pressing from the front, thus the whole thing falling apart, has absolutely nothing to do with it.


As for putting words in your mouth, I have asked you the question multiple times when making or arguing a point. You refuse to answer each and every time, then go about beating the same old drum. Therefore I have to assume you think that way, as it just isn't logical to not.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10) ~ Hero, Icon, Legend

Postby Rastayouth » Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:04 am

Lol, imagine if these last 20 pages were a total waste of time, he genuinely had a niggling back injury, rehabbed now so first match back in the squad vs Chelsea and starts within the next couple matches when he's back to fitness. No Emery conspiracy; no sudden awareness of the wage we, the club, offered. All this driven by fake news from the UK press, although the manager and the agent say he goes nowhere....
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