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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby KG3 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:17 pm

Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


Exactly
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby fredd1 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:19 pm

Andrew wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


Pretty sure he played as a winger today? I may be wrong, but the play making was left up to 3 other centre mids today.

Only 1 of which, can come off that pitch with any sort of pride in his performance. Ozil was shit today. Who woulda thought being played out of position, might hinder him?

AW obs thought it was a good idea, even though he has literally been shit there every time he has been asked to play there in our "systems".


He is our playmaker , even when he's playing "on the wings" . First pass option for our DMs . Offensive game is built around him.


How on earth is a playmaker a winger.God you come out with utter shit.If that was the case Walcott was our playmaker then.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:30 pm

He made two horrific decisions today
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Sims » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:33 pm

GoonerAlexandre wrote:He made two horrific decisions today


very rare for him to f**k up that counter in the first half, usually the best in the world at that kind of decision making + execution. not his day really

heres a fact i saw today, apparently the german youth system have been using ozil as a main focus for developing players in attacking positions for the last 5 years

no wonder why the hermans are so f***ing good
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Andrew » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:37 pm

fredd1 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


Pretty sure he played as a winger today? I may be wrong, but the play making was left up to 3 other centre mids today.

Only 1 of which, can come off that pitch with any sort of pride in his performance. Ozil was shit today. Who woulda thought being played out of position, might hinder him?

AW obs thought it was a good idea, even though he has literally been shit there every time he has been asked to play there in our "systems".


He is our playmaker , even when he's playing "on the wings" . First pass option for our DMs . Offensive game is built around him.


How on earth is a playmaker a winger.God you come out with utter shit.If that was the case Walcott was our playmaker then.


The " position " is not the most important thing . It's the role.
Özil is the focal point of our offensive game . Doesn't matter where he is deployed. He has a free role
Our attack suffers when he disappears as usual against organised teams.
No rocket science
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Luzh 22 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:41 pm

Andrew wrote:
fredd1 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


Pretty sure he played as a winger today? I may be wrong, but the play making was left up to 3 other centre mids today.

Only 1 of which, can come off that pitch with any sort of pride in his performance. Ozil was shit today. Who woulda thought being played out of position, might hinder him?

AW obs thought it was a good idea, even though he has literally been shit there every time he has been asked to play there in our "systems".


He is our playmaker , even when he's playing "on the wings" . First pass option for our DMs . Offensive game is built around him.


How on earth is a playmaker a winger.God you come out with utter shit.If that was the case Walcott was our playmaker then.


The " position " is not the most important thing . It's the role.
Özil is the focal point of our offensive game . Doesn't matter where he is deployed. He has a free role
Our attack suffers when he disappears as usual against organised teams.
No rocket science


Talking rubbish.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:43 pm

Wasted on the wing
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Sims » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:44 pm

think its pretty clear that we're gonna function best when we're like this

Micki - Özil - ???
Auba


rest of the team is obvs up for debate, but they should be the certs
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:46 pm

We need Ramsey and ozil hard to fit them both in though, ozil on wing might work if we had a sane type winger on the other side but we dont habe a winger to complement ozil
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Losmeister » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:48 pm

hmm... i rate Ozil...at least the ozil that has been prsent most of the season.
its always best to play him more centrally, that is true.

however, i dont rate ozil as much as some others and would say that if he is truly as WC as his most staunch supporters claim,
he steps up and puts his stamp, or at least reverses the tide somewhat today.

anyway, today was a true team loss.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby VCC » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:58 pm

Truth is as wide as ozil was supposed to play today the team played incredibly narrow on the widest pitch in the country, was a poor performance from tactics to execution,
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby CaptGooner » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:06 pm

Played out of position, thanks Wenger for another tactical master stoke.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby fredd1 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:07 am

Andrew wrote:
fredd1 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


Pretty sure he played as a winger today? I may be wrong, but the play making was left up to 3 other centre mids today.

Only 1 of which, can come off that pitch with any sort of pride in his performance. Ozil was shit today. Who woulda thought being played out of position, might hinder him?

AW obs thought it was a good idea, even though he has literally been shit there every time he has been asked to play there in our "systems".


He is our playmaker , even when he's playing "on the wings" . First pass option for our DMs . Offensive game is built around him.


How on earth is a playmaker a winger.God you come out with utter shit.If that was the case Walcott was our playmaker then.


The " position " is not the most important thing . It's the role.
Özil is the focal point of our offensive game . Doesn't matter where he is deployed. He has a free role
Our attack suffers when he disappears as usual against organised teams.
No rocket science


Of course position is the main thing.How can you influence a game when you're stuck out wide when you should be playing down the middle.That's where playmakers get their name.

Not fukin rocket science is it
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby VCC » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:00 am

fredd1 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
fredd1 wrote:
Andrew wrote:
Luzh 22 wrote:
Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


Pretty sure he played as a winger today? I may be wrong, but the play making was left up to 3 other centre mids today.

Only 1 of which, can come off that pitch with any sort of pride in his performance. Ozil was shit today. Who woulda thought being played out of position, might hinder him?

AW obs thought it was a good idea, even though he has literally been shit there every time he has been asked to play there in our "systems".


He is our playmaker , even when he's playing "on the wings" . First pass option for our DMs . Offensive game is built around him.


How on earth is a playmaker a winger.God you come out with utter shit.If that was the case Walcott was our playmaker then.


The " position " is not the most important thing . It's the role.
Özil is the focal point of our offensive game . Doesn't matter where he is deployed. He has a free role
Our attack suffers when he disappears as usual against organised teams.
No rocket science


Of course position is the main thing.How can you influence a game when you're stuck out wide when you should be playing down the middle.That's where playmakers get their name.

Not fukin rocket science is it

everyone played down the middle today we had no width
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Mike Dean » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:23 am

Andrew wrote:Shutting down Ozil is the easiest thing in the world for any half decent defence.
That's why we struggle so much against good teams, cos he's our playmaker .


If it was, he would have been shut down at RM, and when he plays for Germany, which has not been the case.

He is an AM. His primary job is to create scoring chances for his team. Since he has been in the league no one has created more chances or has more assists than him which clearly shows that shutting him down is not the easiest thing in the world.

Unless you are expecting him to score a bunch of goals, which quiet frankly has never been his forte.

The problem is Wenger and the sooner he leaves, the sooner the problems with his system get addressed.

Get another wide player, play Ozil through the middle, fix the mess that is our midfield, and then let's see how easy it is to "shut down" our attack.

Wenger isn't smart enough anymore to see all this. He has gone senile. Which is why we are firmly rooted at 6th spot.
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