EliteKiller wrote:jayramfootball wrote:The scores / ratings from whoscored are a combination of all aspects of the game and also get adjusted for team performance. They do not represent a players rating according to his key strengths. Ozil's numbers will always be downweighted due to his defensive contrinution which is awful.
You can always argue that a ratings criteria favours one player over another, however ratings treat all players the same, there is no "down-weighting" for not doing something, that's simply a myth. All ratings sites score players on what they do, not on what they don't do - If you think about that no goalkeeper, defender, or striker would ever achieve high ratings as they don't play an all around game ... your premise that "his defensive contribution which is awful causes a down-weighting" is simply wrong, there is no negative impact from not doing something, it's just his lost opportunity.
The reality is that if Ozil defended better he would improve his score, ergo he would be a better player ... something I think we all already know.
WhoScored.com Ratings are based on a unique, comprehensive statistical algorithm, calculated live during the game. There are over 200 raw statistics included in the calculation of a player'’s/team’'s rating, weighted according to their influence within the game. Every event of importance is taken into account, with a positive or negative effect on ratings weighted in relation to its area on the pitch and its outcome.
I think we're saying the same thing. For example, when Ozil goes into a tackle he rarely wins it. His rating gets taken down.
It does mean that all players are on the same ranking system, but it misses the nuance of what a player is actually in the team to do.
As such I do not value whoscored overall ratings, but they do provide key individual metrics that can be really useful.