The Wizard of Özil

[Ach]

Haven't seen any evidence of racism, if someone who isn't a white European is critisced the racism card is always thrown.

Not sure if serious

Didn't have you down as a racist sympathiser. Learn something new every day

[Marsbar100]

Haven't seen any evidence of racism, if someone who isn't a white European is critisced the racism card is always thrown.

Not sure if serious

Didn't have you down as a racist sympathiser. Learn something new every day

All I see is he was criticized for having a photo with someone that people think he shouldn't have, I don't no enough about erdogan to know whether he should be critisced for it.

If England players were photographed with Tony Blair I would find it pretty difficult to support them tbh, doesn't mean I am racist.

[Jedi]

We won trophies when Ozil came to Arsenal. Argument done.

We also finished outside of the Top 4 for the first time in 20 years when Ozil joined too. We have finished 5th and 6th in two consecutive seasons with Ozil has our supposed best player. Season 3 and we still look like finishing outside of the Top 4.
Is this also due to Ozil? Or only when we do good then it’s due to Ozil and his presence?

We finished 4th, 3rd and 2nd and then Xhaka came and everything fell apart

[Sims]

Another aryan coming out and saying racism doesn’t exist in the dfb set up

Quelle surprise

[PairyGrows]

Haven't seen any evidence of racism, if someone who isn't a white European is critisced the racism card is always thrown.

Not sure if serious

Didn't have you down as a racist sympathiser. Learn something new every day

All I see is he was criticized for having a photo with someone that people think he shouldn't have, I don't no enough about erdogan to know whether he should be critisced for it.

If England players were photographed with Tony Blair I would find it pretty difficult to support them tbh, doesn't mean I am racist.

Erdogan is as about as lovable as your run-of-the-mill autocrat. Also, given some of his remarks about Germany, it's no wonder the Germans don't hold him in such a high regard.

[DiamondGooner]

Haven't seen any evidence of racism, if someone who isn't a white European is critisced the racism card is always thrown.

Not sure if serious

Didn't have you down as a racist sympathiser. Learn something new every day

All I see is he was criticized for having a photo with someone that people think he shouldn't have, I don't no enough about erdogan to know whether he should be critisced for it.

If England players were photographed with Tony Blair I would find it pretty difficult to support them tbh, doesn't mean I am racist.

Erdogan is as about as lovable as your run-of-the-mill autocrat. Also, given some of his remarks about Germany, it's no wonder the Germans don't hold him in such a high regard.

................. whether that's true or not is not the point.

The point is a photo shouldn't follow questions over your nationality and racist chants and mail from fans etc.

If a white German had taken a pic with Trump, would the German media be saying things like "Well is he "really" a German?" no they wouldn't.

[CaptGooner]

Haven't seen any evidence of racism, if someone who isn't a white European is critisced the racism card is always thrown.

In the latest German Trend poll, the majority of Germans believe racism is still a big problem. This was consistent for both immigrants and non-immigrants.

The only political spectrum that did not have a majority belief of this was the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD).

[StLGooner]

In my 40 years of life I have learned that racism exist pretty much every where.

[Phil71]

In my 40 years of life I have learned that racism exist pretty much every where.

And equally within every part of society. White, black, Asian, African...

[Angelito]

Another aryan coming out and saying racism doesn’t exist in the dfb set up

Quelle surprise

Think it's more xenophobia than racism but yeah.

Kroos should just shut up. He's not part of the administration and Ozil hasn't accused his team-mates of racism.

[PairyGrows]

Haven't seen any evidence of racism, if someone who isn't a white European is critisced the racism card is always thrown.

Not sure if serious

Didn't have you down as a racist sympathiser. Learn something new every day

All I see is he was criticized for having a photo with someone that people think he shouldn't have, I don't no enough about erdogan to know whether he should be critisced for it.

If England players were photographed with Tony Blair I would find it pretty difficult to support them tbh, doesn't mean I am racist.

Erdogan is as about as lovable as your run-of-the-mill autocrat. Also, given some of his remarks about Germany, it's no wonder the Germans don't hold him in such a high regard.

................. whether that's true or not is not the point.

The point is a photo shouldn't follow questions over your nationality and racist chants and mail from fans etc.

If a white German had taken a pic with Trump, would the German media be saying things like "Well is he "really" a German?" no they wouldn't.

Let's put aside the issue of whether the Germans and the German media are, by and large, racist. That may or may not be true. I don't know enough about the media coverage of the incident in Germany nor the attitudes of the Germans to arrive at one conclusion or the other.

What I'm interested in are Ozil's claims of systemic racism within the German FA. He calls out the chairman of the DFB Reinhard Grindel and criticises him harshly. Now, I don't think that's justified. Even if the fans and/or the media say something racist doesn't mean Grindel endorses it.

That's basically my take on this.

[Luzh 22]

First of all, a nationality isn't a race. By questioning if someone is German or not, is not racist. Germans are not a race, neither are Turks. If you were crazy in love with a nationality that would make you a xenophile. If you hated a country, that would make you a xenophobe.

What then is a race? It's a distinct difference in the outward look of a person, most notably skin colour.

[Pudpop]

First of all, a nationality isn't a race. By questioning if someone is German or not, is not racist. Germans are not a race, neither are Turks. If you were crazy in love with a nationality that would make you a xenophile. If you hated a country, that would make you a xenophobe.

What then is a race? It's a distinct difference in the outward look of a person, most notably skin colour.

Semantics... what you say may be true but it doesn't reflect the way we use racism as a word today. Özil's treatment during three last few months was racist, end of.

[Pudpop]

Also lmao at the 'white man claims there is no racism' shocker

[Marsbar100]

Still haven't seen this racism lol