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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:30 pm

As much as I love Ozil, he is never going to reach Cesc's level

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:31 pm

Jesus Christ.

The Cesc fan girls are out in full force lol.

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Dejan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:32 pm

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Angelito » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:32 pm

Sims wrote:barca move absolutely ruined cesc in terms of what level he could reach

for me he was undoubtedly the best am in the world when he left us


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Cesc was the best CAM when he left us. He was up there with Xavi and Pirlo as one of the best passers of the ball.

And then he left for Barca. Failed to accommodate. Ended up playing as Messi's sub. And that was that.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:34 pm

Sims wrote:barca move absolutely ruined cesc in terms of what level he could reach

for me he was undoubtedly the best am in the world when he left us


Yeah barca wasn't a great move for him as he needs to be main man, madrid would have been far better, i think them hamstring injuries is what brought him down a level though, that extra yard of pace made him unplayable.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:39 pm

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:42 pm

He was far better than ozil no doubt, mesut has done well overall though
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Angelito » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:55 pm

How many trophies did this "far better" guy win with Arsenal - under a sane Wenger?

Oh wait, was he Spain's starter when they won the World Cup?

But I digress.

Gooners, as usual, getting their priorities wrong.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Dejan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:08 pm

Yes because trophies is a measurement of player quality? How many worldcups did messi win?

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Angelito » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 pm

Dejan wrote:Yes because trophies is a measurement of player quality? How many worldcups did messi win?

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One. 2018.

That aside, Messi is the best player there ever has been so equating Cesc to Messi is quite some claim.

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:19 pm

Cesc has technically won the 2003/04 PL trophy at Arsenal, has Ozil ever gone invincible?

Cesc also actually has more trophies than Ozil can even dream of

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:26 pm

Angelito wrote:How many trophies did this "far better" guy win with Arsenal - under a sane Wenger?

Oh wait, was he Spain's starter when they won the World Cup?

But I digress.

Gooners, as usual, getting their priorities wrong.


He won a fa cup at 17.

Cesc at 18 destroyed zidane and paddy, we made a final and was winning when he was on the pitch, we conceded a couple minutes after he got subbed, if henry takes his chance he is a legend for us, you can't really hold it against him.

Tell me what ozil has ever done in europe for us?

We also should have won the title in 07/08 he was 20 pulling everything, eduardo happen and we missed rosicky and rvp to, we was unlucky, ozil couldn't get us past Leicester, when cesc was here the competion was hard, post fergie it has been suspect.

09/10 he was phenomenal, unfortunate rvp missed most the season, they was connecting so well, we might have done something that season.

He made toty 2 times, ozil hasn't done that yet.

Then 10/11 him and theo get injured 4 days before cc final, unlucky hard to see us not winning that if he was here.

He assisted the world cup winning goal, did ozil do that? who cares if he didn't start for arguably the best international side of all time, when called upon he always delivered over the 3 tournaments they won.

Cesc is actually quite very unlucky player in some aspects, great career could have looked been better, might have bottled one or two moments, so did henry, so did messi it happens.

Overall did far more to get us to win a title or cl than ozil has done, internationally he shits over ozil to.
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Dejan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:38 pm

Rip angelito tbf

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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:46 pm

Aww..... CESC <3
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Re: Mesut Özil (11)

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:50 pm

2007-2010 Cesc was as good as it gets tbh.
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