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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:35 am

Angelito wrote:
indy23 wrote:If zidanes overrated af what the f**k is ozil lol.


Talk about missing the point. My Zidane conversation was irregardless of Ozil.

We get it. Gooners don't like Ozil. We know that. We're aware of it.


Power n Glory wrote:We really need to close this thread. All the top clubs passed up on signing Ozil when he was available on a free and he won't go anywhere this summer either.


Well, considering we're run by bureaucrats, I don't have much hope either. The first thing on the agenda should be selling Ozil, or leveraging his sale. If we agree to sell Ozil for less than £20m, it won't be an issue. Ozil isn't the kind to stay if he's not wanted here. Contrary to the popular belief, Ozil didn't offer himself the £350k contract.

Personally, I bloody hope we sell Ozil even if we don't sign any player. I can't take another season of, "No haz no UCL title coz dat Wozil suckas... Don Unai," kind of narrative.

If the devil gave me a choice:

a. Ozil stays, we finish 17th;
b. Ozil leaves, we get relegated.

I'd take the latter. Any day of the week.


He was available on a free and nobody moved for him. You can't sell a player if you're not getting bids. All the talk from his representatives suggests they are willing to stay where he's not wanted. He won't move to a lesser club or league. That includes China and Turkey. He'r happily collect his wagess from the bench at Arsenal .
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby indy23 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:02 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Exactly. Stats become meaningless when they thwart the oppositions arguments. Its not even like the stats are obscure stats like, number of ¾ pace runs per match or some shit. They are bread and butter stats!! Appearances, goals, assists.

Watch some numpty argue about the "quality of the assists" :rofll:


Ok

Xavi has 52 goals and 66 assists in 428 apps for Barca

Ramsey has 64 goals and 69 assists in 367 apps for Arsenal

Who is the better player?


:biggrin:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Zedie » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:13 pm

indy23 wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Exactly. Stats become meaningless when they thwart the oppositions arguments. Its not even like the stats are obscure stats like, number of ¾ pace runs per match or some shit. They are bread and butter stats!! Appearances, goals, assists.

Watch some numpty argue about the "quality of the assists" :rofll:


Ok

Xavi has 52 goals and 66 assists in 428 apps for Barca

Ramsey has 64 goals and 69 assists in 367 apps for Arsenal

Who is the better player?


:biggrin:


Obviously Ramsey because of the stats.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby HalHartley » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:17 pm

swipe right wrote:Image


How many of those goals and assists have come in the last two seasons for ozil?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:19 pm

indy23 wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Exactly. Stats become meaningless when they thwart the oppositions arguments. Its not even like the stats are obscure stats like, number of ¾ pace runs per match or some shit. They are bread and butter stats!! Appearances, goals, assists.

Watch some numpty argue about the "quality of the assists" :rofll:


Ok

Xavi has 52 goals and 66 assists in 428 apps for Barca

Ramsey has 64 goals and 69 assists in 367 apps for Arsenal

Who is the better player?


:biggrin:

Indy my subsequent question is open to you to answer too :biggrin:

You too Zedie :biggrin:
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Power n Glory wrote:
Angelito wrote:
indy23 wrote:If zidanes overrated af what the f**k is ozil lol.


Talk about missing the point. My Zidane conversation was irregardless of Ozil.

We get it. Gooners don't like Ozil. We know that. We're aware of it.


Power n Glory wrote:We really need to close this thread. All the top clubs passed up on signing Ozil when he was available on a free and he won't go anywhere this summer either.


Well, considering we're run by bureaucrats, I don't have much hope either. The first thing on the agenda should be selling Ozil, or leveraging his sale. If we agree to sell Ozil for less than £20m, it won't be an issue. Ozil isn't the kind to stay if he's not wanted here. Contrary to the popular belief, Ozil didn't offer himself the £350k contract.

Personally, I bloody hope we sell Ozil even if we don't sign any player. I can't take another season of, "No haz no UCL title coz dat Wozil suckas... Don Unai," kind of narrative.

If the devil gave me a choice:

a. Ozil stays, we finish 17th;
b. Ozil leaves, we get relegated.

I'd take the latter. Any day of the week.


He was available on a free and nobody moved for him. You can't sell a player if you're not getting bids. All the talk from his representatives suggests they are willing to stay where he's not wanted. He won't move to a lesser club or league. That includes China and Turkey. He'r happily collect his wagess from the bench at Arsenal .

And you know nobody was in for him how?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby indy23 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:36 pm

Didn't inter want him?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Zedie » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:46 pm

theHotHead wrote:
indy23 wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
theHotHead wrote:Exactly. Stats become meaningless when they thwart the oppositions arguments. Its not even like the stats are obscure stats like, number of ¾ pace runs per match or some shit. They are bread and butter stats!! Appearances, goals, assists.

Watch some numpty argue about the "quality of the assists" :rofll:


Ok

Xavi has 52 goals and 66 assists in 428 apps for Barca

Ramsey has 64 goals and 69 assists in 367 apps for Arsenal

Who is the better player?


:biggrin:

Indy my subsequent question is open to you to answer too :biggrin:

You too Zedie :biggrin:


Mate, I've given up and am falling in line with the Emery out / kronke in crowd.

Ramsey has the better stats which is all that matters so that means ramsey is better than xavi. Who can actually question stats when its so clear?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:55 pm

The most dangerous place to be is in bed. Do you think riding jet skis is more dangerous than being in bed? Because statistically more people die in bed than on jet skis.
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:55 pm

HalHartley wrote:
swipe right wrote:Image


How many of those goals and assists have come in the last two seasons for ozil?

How many of Iniesta’s have come without Messi?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:56 pm

Similarly, if you are ill, don't go to hospital. Statistically, more people die in hospital than anywhere else!

ps if you do go to hospital, whatever you do DO NOT get in to bed lol
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:57 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:The most dangerous place to be is in bed. Do you think riding jet skis is more dangerous than being in bed? Because statistically more people die in bed than on jet skis.

Let’s get back to football shall we. Goals and assists are what’s used to judge players and that’s what’s been provided. If you got nothing sensible to say, stay away.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:58 pm

swipe right wrote:
Tony_Adams wrote:The most dangerous place to be is in bed. Do you think riding jet skis is more dangerous than being in bed? Because statistically more people die in bed than on jet skis.

Let’s get back to football shall we. Goals and assists are what’s used to judge players and that’s what’s been provided. If you got nothing sensible to say, stay away.
Sorry mate :lipssealed: :shifty:
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White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Zedie » Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:59 pm

swipe right wrote:
Tony_Adams wrote:The most dangerous place to be is in bed. Do you think riding jet skis is more dangerous than being in bed? Because statistically more people die in bed than on jet skis.

Let’s get back to football shall we. Goals and assists are what’s used to judge players and that’s what’s been provided. If you got nothing sensible to say, stay away.


Start sleeping on jet skis. Life extended. Thank me later.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby UFGN » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:22 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:
swipe right wrote:
Tony_Adams wrote:The most dangerous place to be is in bed. Do you think riding jet skis is more dangerous than being in bed? Because statistically more people die in bed than on jet skis.

Let’s get back to football shall we. Goals and assists are what’s used to judge players and that’s what’s been provided. If you got nothing sensible to say, stay away.
Sorry mate :lipssealed: :shifty:


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