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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:15 pm

Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.


It's a very dangerous road to go down.

White people not being able to criticise other people because they are black, or Turkish, or whatever. And that's what people appear to be advocating.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby PairyGrows » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:15 pm

I'm starting to feel like we should start a thread called "Let's call out the racists in football" and reserve it for our insinuations.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby LegendaryKeown » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:30 pm

Phil71 wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.


It's a very dangerous road to go down.

White people not being able to criticise other people because they are black, or Turkish, or whatever. And that's what people appear to be advocating.

Not even close.

Since you're so willing to make it so, find one teammate Kroos has criticised other than Sane and Ozil.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:31 pm

Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Ozil and has called out 2 non-pure white Germans as being sub standard. Apart from the fact he chose to enter this entire "Ozil Racism" debate and say Ozil is chatting bollox where clearly Ozil was not chatting bollox. The actions of a true racist in my opinion.

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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:42 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Ozil and has called out 2 non-pure white Germans as being sub standard. Apart from the fact he chose to enter this entire "Ozil Racism" debate and say Ozil is chatting bollox where clearly Ozil was not chatting bollox. The actions of a true racist in my opinion.

When you push up your head you better be prepared for your head to get lick off !


Why don't you say, "when you push your white head up...?"

That's obviously what you mean.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:45 pm

Emery must hate turkish people, said ozil needed to up his work rate
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Phil71 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:53 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:Emery must hate turkish people, said ozil needed to up his work rate


Well yeah.

Obviously a supporter of General Franco.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Dynamite » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:01 pm

Phil71 wrote:It's getting silly now.


The "all white germans are racist campaign" is dumb as f**k and getting boring indeed.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Dynamite » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:04 pm

Phil71 wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:Emery must hate turkish people, said ozil needed to up his work rate


Well yeah.

Obviously a supporter of General Franco.

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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby LegendaryKeown » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:07 pm

Phil71 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Ozil and has called out 2 non-pure white Germans as being sub standard. Apart from the fact he chose to enter this entire "Ozil Racism" debate and say Ozil is chatting bollox where clearly Ozil was not chatting bollox. The actions of a true racist in my opinion.

When you push up your head you better be prepared for your head to get lick off !


Why don't you say, "when you push your white head up...?"

That's obviously what you mean.

Pretty sure he's white.

Anyway, Kroos's ancestors supported the Nazis. That is fact.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:14 pm

Phil71 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Ozil and has called out 2 non-pure white Germans as being sub standard. Apart from the fact he chose to enter this entire "Ozil Racism" debate and say Ozil is chatting bollox where clearly Ozil was not chatting bollox. The actions of a true racist in my opinion.

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Why don't you say, "when you push your white head up...?"

That's obviously what you mean.


It seems to really bug you that non-white people are done saying "Yes sir master" and are actually calling people out on their BS.

You make out like your so hard done by, tough.

There was an entire media campaign based on Ozil and his race / nationality was brought up numerous times ........... and you want to sweep that under the carpet like it didn't happen?

When certain white people stop using race and nationality as part of the narrative for abuse or criticism then maybe people will stop calling them out on it.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Dynamite » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:18 pm

Can you show a handful of examples of this racist media campaign please.
Cause a lot of people here refer to it but never have shown any evidence.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:40 pm

Phil71 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Ozil and has called out 2 non-pure white Germans as being sub standard. Apart from the fact he chose to enter this entire "Ozil Racism" debate and say Ozil is chatting bollox where clearly Ozil was not chatting bollox. The actions of a true racist in my opinion.

When you push up your head you better be prepared for your head to get lick off !


Why don't you say, "when you push your white head up...?"

That's obviously what you mean.

It has nothing to do with white people, it applies to everyone. If you push up your head be prepared for your head to get lick off !
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:47 pm

LegendaryKeown wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:And there is nothing that shows that Kroos is racist. Yet you're using the term like it's a fact.

Apart from the fact he doesn't like Ozil and has called out 2 non-pure white Germans as being sub standard. Apart from the fact he chose to enter this entire "Ozil Racism" debate and say Ozil is chatting bollox where clearly Ozil was not chatting bollox. The actions of a true racist in my opinion.

When you push up your head you better be prepared for your head to get lick off !


Why don't you say, "when you push your white head up...?"

That's obviously what you mean.

Pretty sure he's white.

Anyway, Kroos's ancestors supported the Nazis. That is fact.

I'm a black man who never cries racism and doesn't have a chip on my shoulder and not scared to go anywhere - even in Eastern Europe ! but I am also not blind and whilst the colour of my skin has not held me back I know for a fact it has held others back. I laugh at racist jokes, I am not a snowflake and I am definitely not politically correct !

I have no proof that Kroos is racist, but based on his behaviour and taking he unusual step to come out and criticise Ozil about things Ozil DIDN'T EVEN SAY suggests to me he doesn't like Ozil, I suspect its because of his heritage. not everyone that criticises Ozil who is white is racist, if there is basis for the criticism then so be it. But Kroos has no clue what he is talking about hence accusing Ozil of saying things HE NEVER EVEN SAID.

And then to criticise Sane, what has Sane done to deserve that ?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby LegendaryKeown » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:48 pm

I find this race stuff so idiotic. There was a campaign against Ozil and one the people who said Ozil was lying about a campaign (Which did happen, just check Bild) now calls out Sane for something you never call out a teammate for.

I've noticed it's always a minority that has to show they belong, that they care, that they're passionate. What's hilarious is that Sane doesn't even Turkish roots or something, he's just black, but he has to prove it.

Hell, look at the Xhaka thing. He apparently shouldn't be Switzerland captain because Lichsteiner won't like an immigrant being captain when Lich himself made the Albanian Eagle celebration.
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