GunnerRobert wrote:Demonic Witchcraft lol.
Mate, I seriously fear for his health/well-being.
He was a lunatic BEFORE lockdown, I fear the dark madness has a firm grip of him right now. Couldn't believe what I was reading to be honest.
by theHotHead » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:00 am
GunnerRobert wrote:Demonic Witchcraft lol.
by theHotHead » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:04 am
hs6bx wrote:Just had a catch up. Elkanofan, anyim and power n glory - all great posts. Enjoyed reading them. I would also agree that playing a youngster who will operate in a team and do what Arteta and the coaching staff want will at least give us discipline. The foundations will be there. Ozil won’t. He’s already proven he’s not willing. Regardless of how short we are... what crazed person plays Ozil in a 2 in the midfield???
GunnerRobert and Hothead - genuinely what a disgrace to humanity. Hiding behind a keyboard and making judgements based on how much money people earn... on an arsenal forum. I’m always up for a laugh... but what a sad state of affairs.
Santi... did you get jayrams semen off your face?
by theHotHead » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:11 am
gamechannel wrote:My head hurts reading all the back and forth.
The anti-Ozil brigade is completely missing the key, oft-repeated point all alleged Ozil fan boys have consistently made: Mesut Ozil is not the player he once was and is absolutely overpaid but that does not mean that he can't play minutes on this team when the likes of Willock and Nelson are getting minutes over him and producing diddly squat. Hes twice the player than those buggers on his worst day. Sure, if the club finds a better replacement for him, by all means, plant his ass firmly on the bench. But since he's not going anywhere and a better replacement is not yet available (unless ESR comes in and hits the ground running), might as well use him. This team lacks creativity and Willock, Cebellos and Nelson are not the answer. So until he's still under contract and won't leave early, put him to use.
Its a simple concept that has time and time again been responded to with hyperbole like he's a cancer, too expensive, diva etc. No one actually makes a proper, fact-backed case for why the likes of Willock and Nelson play over him when he's available.
by theHotHead » Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:16 am
EliteKiller wrote:Mike Dean wrote: I think it is clear that the order to not play him since the restart has come from upstairs.
Arteta played him before the shutdown, but does not after coming back.
Did he become a different player during the shutdown?
No.
You're right, he was pretty shit before the shut down, despite being given twelve starts he only scored one and assisted one and was subbed off on nine occasions ... just how long should we keep paying a player who no longer contributes even 25% of what is being paid for?
Arteta gave him enough chances and then rightly moved on ... you need to do the same.
It's very clear that Ozil was given a ridiculous contract, not his fault that's on Wenger/Gazidis, what's equally clear is that nobody on the planet is going to match that contract or even pay 50%, the only offer is 3m a year from Turkey that's just 20% of his ludicrous salary. So taking his own words Ozil is going to prioritise money 'staying until the last day' over playing football 'my playing time might be limited' again that's not his fault a lot of us would do the same thing ... but that is 100% his call, choosing what's good for Ozil over what's best for Arsenal, as an Arsenal fan not an Ozil fan that sucks ... so let's just pay his greedy arse to feck off then we can finally all move on.
by EliteKiller » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:07 am
Mike Dean wrote:That's just your opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHxFXQ3zQ0M&t=199s
While he was not world class, he was not bad either.
His performances were no where shitty for him to be played for that many games before and then none after, especially given that Joe Willock, who is pretty bad is being played.
Sorry but that's just your bias talking.
Clearly the order to not play him came form upstairs as a retaliation after he refused to take a paycut.
I have always maintained that Ozil does not need to be played every game or even whole 90 minutes. Arsenal can use him in spurts and try to get some value out of their investment.
by EliteKiller » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:24 am
by yadunoe » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:26 am
by hs6bx » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:52 am
theHotHead wrote:hs6bx wrote:Just had a catch up. Elkanofan, anyim and power n glory - all great posts. Enjoyed reading them. I would also agree that playing a youngster who will operate in a team and do what Arteta and the coaching staff want will at least give us discipline. The foundations will be there. Ozil won’t. He’s already proven he’s not willing. Regardless of how short we are... what crazed person plays Ozil in a 2 in the midfield???
GunnerRobert and Hothead - genuinely what a disgrace to humanity. Hiding behind a keyboard and making judgements based on how much money people earn... on an arsenal forum. I’m always up for a laugh... but what a sad state of affairs.
Santi... did you get jayrams semen off your face?
So you agree with the madman rantings of Elkopubber, about witchcraft and the elite etc???
I am not surprised, how can someone who champions the comments from a racist like Uli Hoeness not support the equally lunatic rantings of a madman like Elkopubber.
And the semen comments are actually par for the course from a defacto d***head like yourself.
by Santi » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:34 am
Mike Dean wrote:EliteKiller wrote:Mike Dean wrote: I think it is clear that the order to not play him since the restart has come from upstairs.
Arteta played him before the shutdown, but does not after coming back.
Did he become a different player during the shutdown?
No.
You're right, he was pretty shit before the shut down, despite being given twelve starts he only scored one and assisted one and was subbed off on nine occasions ... just how long should we keep paying a player who no longer contributes even 25% of what is being paid for?
Arteta gave him enough chances and then rightly moved on ... you need to do the same.
It's very clear that Ozil was given a ridiculous contract, not his fault that's on Wenger/Gazidis, what's equally clear is that nobody on the planet is going to match that contract or even pay 50%, the only offer is 3m a year from Turkey that's just 20% of his ludicrous salary. So taking his own words Ozil is going to prioritise money 'staying until the last day' over playing football 'my playing time might be limited' again that's not his fault a lot of us would do the same thing ... but that is 100% his call, choosing what's good for Ozil over what's best for Arsenal, as an Arsenal fan not an Ozil fan that sucks ... so let's just pay his greedy arse to feck off then we can finally all move on.
That's just your opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHxFXQ3zQ0M&t=199s
While he was not world class, he was not bad either.
His performances were no where shitty for him to be played for that many games before and then none after, especially given that Joe Willock, who is pretty bad is being played.
Sorry but that's just your bias talking.
Clearly the order to not play him came form upstairs as a retaliation after he refused to take a paycut.
I have always maintained that Ozil does not need to be played every game or even whole 90 minutes. Arsenal can use him in spurts and try to get some value out of their investment.
by Santi » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:37 am
yadunoe wrote:whoever negotiated his contract and let ramsey leave for free need to be fired asap
by Sims » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:44 am
by jayramfootball » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:51 am
Sims wrote:Imagine if we kept Ramsey as well on insane wages
We’d be super f***ked
by Angelito » Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:18 am
Sims wrote:Imagine if we kept Ramsey as well on insane wages
We’d be super f***ked
by theHotHead » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:02 pm
hs6bx wrote:theHotHead wrote:hs6bx wrote:Just had a catch up. Elkanofan, anyim and power n glory - all great posts. Enjoyed reading them. I would also agree that playing a youngster who will operate in a team and do what Arteta and the coaching staff want will at least give us discipline. The foundations will be there. Ozil won’t. He’s already proven he’s not willing. Regardless of how short we are... what crazed person plays Ozil in a 2 in the midfield???
GunnerRobert and Hothead - genuinely what a disgrace to humanity. Hiding behind a keyboard and making judgements based on how much money people earn... on an arsenal forum. I’m always up for a laugh... but what a sad state of affairs.
Santi... did you get jayrams semen off your face?
So you agree with the madman rantings of Elkopubber, about witchcraft and the elite etc???
I am not surprised, how can someone who champions the comments from a racist like Uli Hoeness not support the equally lunatic rantings of a madman like Elkopubber.
And the semen comments are actually par for the course from a defacto d***head like yourself.
I agree with the comments about Ozil, as I said. He isn’t playing because he isn’t doing artetas non-negotiables. Drop the conspiracy.
And my comments about you... I thought that you were a bell end before that comment about money and social classes... but now I seriously think you’re a despicable c***. Wonder if you act like that away from your keyboard you little fairy?