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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby HolyCow » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:10 pm

theHotHead wrote:And yesterday's result is one that vindicates Welbeck's inclusion. You have a greater chance of not losing by playing him than you do that lamppost Giroud. If you want your team to be compact and work hard Welbeck is your man, this is why I don't have a problem with Welbeck, I would prefer us to be compact and hard to beat than a pathetic team that looks like conceding a goal when the opponents just look at the bloody goal !!

I'm pleased Welbeck played yesterday. Now to get the job done in the next leg.


He's a forward. His purpose is to score goals or at least help create them. We're playing a back 5 now so the wing backs don't need nearly as much tracking back from the forwards to help protect the wings as much they did when we played a back 4. And at least that lamppost Giroud could poach goals for us and use his mass to hold up the ball.
You end with "now to get the job done in the next leg"... and how are we going to win that match with a defensive forward?

Welbeck - 67 appearances (13 goals)
Giroud - 177 appearances (73 goals)

We shouldn't value a forward who makes you say "Wow! That striker sure helps us not concede goals!". That's the kind of thinking of a supporter of a club looking to avoid relegation.

...but at least he's not Iwobi.
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby starmandb » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:59 pm

Mike Dean wrote:
Sims wrote:
Dejan wrote:how much does this potato have left on his contract


Get ready for this one

He turned down our latest contract offer


That's the best thing he has done in an Arsenal shirt since he has been here.

Please go away.

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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby starmandb » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:10 pm

Özim wrote:Once upon a time we had a guy who worked his socks off in midfield, always gave 100%, his name was David Hillier, honest hard working and all that but very limited footballer and would have been no good if you wanted to be a top team, just like Welbeck.

Good enough for a team battling relegation or in the championship, but for any team with their eyes on the big prizes forget it, he's a waste of time. Players that are described as very hard working usually have very little talent and that's the reason people recognise them for their hard work and not what they do with the ball, nothing wrong with that of course, but this being a professional sport and us supposedly being a top club we should be looking for the most talented players rather than prioritising hard work 1st.

Hillier played 16 games in the side that won the title in90/91
5 times in the fa and 8 times in the league cup both won in 92/93
3 times in the side that won the cup winners cup in 93/94
A valuable member of the squad
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:20 am

The thing is football is not as simple as many of you make out in some respects, its not Fantasy Football or Championship Manager.

There is a reason Welbeck - who has never been a prolific striker - was preferred by Fergie and England managers. The way I see it, you will never win 5-3 with him playing, but you will most likely win 1 or 2-0 with him.

I'm cool with that
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:42 am

The last England manager had Harry Kane, the best British striker in 20 years, taking corners. This same manager got a strong England side eliminated at the hands of Euro pubbers Iceland. Welbeck makes perfect sense in that kind of bizarro world.
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby Interest: waning » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:58 am

I can't wait to watch this guy f**k everything up today. I love supporting Arsenal.
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby Goonerz » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:59 pm

Bambi on ice = Sanogo.
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby gamechannel » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:05 pm

He's the English Sanogo. Wenger has a hard on for this guy. Wenger really loves his one-dimensional, talentless black players, doesn't he?
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:08 pm

gamechannel wrote:He's the English Sanogo. Wenger has a hard on for this guy. Wenger really loves his one-dimensional, talentless black players, doesn't he?


Giroud and Xhaka say ......... :hello:
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby SuperJackyWilshere » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:09 pm

Come and get him, Besiktas.

I beg.
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:09 pm

Mike Dean wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Been saying since forever, worst player at AFC by far


This.

How he became a footballer I will never know.

He is absolutely terrible.
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby Dejan » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:20 pm

Wellbeck is better than iwobi tbh
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby gamechannel » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:30 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
gamechannel wrote:He's the English Sanogo. Wenger has a hard on for this guy. Wenger really loves his one-dimensional, talentless black players, doesn't he?


Giroud and Xhaka say ......... :hello:


Xhaka and guroud are terrible in their right but it really says something about wellbacks ability (or lack thereof) that those are are 10 times the footballers he is..
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby gamechannel » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:31 pm

Dejan wrote:Wellbeck is better than iwobi tbh


That's like saying Harvey wienstien is a better person than Kevin Spacey cuz at least he didn't rape children..
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Re: Danny Welbeck (23)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:11 am

I don't mind him in big games where we're looking to defend.

However, the idea of Welbeck and Iwobi as wingers is something that no one has ever tried before.

Can they beat a man and get a cross in? No, so they're not conventional wingers
Can they take on the keeper on a one on one and get a goal? No, so they're not forwards playing on the wing.
Can they deliver creative balls into the box to compensate for their lack of pace? Not even close.

The only think Welbeck has is height, which can be useful in big games. Against Chelsea, the ball out to Welbz was a good source to relieve pressure. But other than that, what is the point of Welbeck and Iwobi?
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