by Phil71 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:20 pm
by starmandb » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:48 pm
Phil71 wrote:I remember Don Howe starting striker Paul Mariner at centre half.
by thebigbangtheo » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:51 am
theHotHead wrote:thebigbangtheo wrote:Has anyone ever heard of Ashley Young? Used to be a star winger-cum-striker for Watford and Villa? Earned a big money move to Man Utd and a death threat from Villa manager John Gregory? Played the last 2/3 year's as left back for Utd and part of England's best World Cup performances for 30 years, even though his soul should have been destroyed?
Similarly, wasn't Valencia also a winger before becoming one of Utd's best defenders and Captain even?
Without doubt, both moves were glaringly obvious and any fool would have done the same.
Yes I am being a little bit facetious but my point is to keep some perspective here. We have 2 left backs, both are injured. We have a problematic situation which the manager has sought to solve, which is the very essence of his job.
This is only an option he could give himself as an alternative to playing Maitland-Niles, who is even less suited to the role given he's more right sided and will benefit most long term from not being used like Red Adair.
If either was going to get destroyed (self confidence included) by who ever City play on the right, then I would rather it be the one I'm prepared to move on as opposed to the youngster I'm trying to develop and has already done his bit of shit shovelling at full back. Damage limitation considering City are understandably massive favourites to win, therefore nothing to lose, not even the 3 points.
This may or may not even happen but I can see the logic of such thinking.
You cannot compare Ashley Young and Valencia with Welbeck. both were very decent wingers with fantastic ball control and a good shot. Welbeck cannot be classed as a winger, he is not a "twinkle toes" player, he just runs a lot and works hard. So their conversion only required more defensive awareness to be added, technically they were fine. Technically Welbeck is miles behind them but has more natural defensive awareness.
by Phil71 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:47 pm
starmandb wrote:Phil71 wrote:I remember Don Howe starting striker Paul Mariner at centre half.
He did indeed and he played very well
It was early in the 85/86 season and we were a little short there
Chris whyte had been sold to crystal palace
Martin keown was on loan at Brighton and had not made a first team appearance yet
David o'leary had a knock or flu or some such
So it was mariner who partnered Tommy caton in a 1-0 win home to Leicester thanks to tony woodcock
Tony Adams remained on the bench
by theHotHead » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:53 pm
by thebigbangtheo » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:22 pm
Phil71 wrote:starmandb wrote:Phil71 wrote:I remember Don Howe starting striker Paul Mariner at centre half.
He did indeed and he played very well
It was early in the 85/86 season and we were a little short there
Chris whyte had been sold to crystal palace
Martin keown was on loan at Brighton and had not made a first team appearance yet
David o'leary had a knock or flu or some such
So it was mariner who partnered Tommy caton in a 1-0 win home to Leicester thanks to tony woodcock
Tony Adams remained on the bench
Cheers
I remember a really boring spell under Howe. I recall one game when a mate and I were standing at the back in the clock end, and some fella came in late. He asked, "Any score?", and my mate replied, "Nah...not for a few weeks mate."
by KingChrome » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:41 pm
thebigbangtheo wrote:Phil71 wrote:starmandb wrote:Phil71 wrote:I remember Don Howe starting striker Paul Mariner at centre half.
He did indeed and he played very well
It was early in the 85/86 season and we were a little short there
Chris whyte had been sold to crystal palace
Martin keown was on loan at Brighton and had not made a first team appearance yet
David o'leary had a knock or flu or some such
So it was mariner who partnered Tommy caton in a 1-0 win home to Leicester thanks to tony woodcock
Tony Adams remained on the bench
Cheers
I remember a really boring spell under Howe. I recall one game when a mate and I were standing at the back in the clock end, and some fella came in late. He asked, "Any score?", and my mate replied, "Nah...not for a few weeks mate."
I too remember the occasion if not all the details. Mariner's biggest attribute was his heading ability so coupled with his size and experience he was not gonna get run over in the position. Clever coaching move to protect the youngster and get everyone focused on the old war horse England international instead.
Christ you have evoked some memories now. These kids don't know their born complaining about the likes of Mustafi and Koscielny, I got to witness Gus Caesar. Gus Caesar. Gus Caesar...damn...years of counselling has just been undone.
by KingChrome » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:46 pm
theHotHead wrote:Danny Welbeck as a full back would be terrible. Wasn't Ashley Cole a striker in his early football years ? You want your full backs to have quick feet
by starmandb » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:59 pm
Phil71 wrote:starmandb wrote:Phil71 wrote:I remember Don Howe starting striker Paul Mariner at centre half.
He did indeed and he played very well
It was early in the 85/86 season and we were a little short there
Chris whyte had been sold to crystal palace
Martin keown was on loan at Brighton and had not made a first team appearance yet
David o'leary had a knock or flu or some such
So it was mariner who partnered Tommy caton in a 1-0 win home to Leicester thanks to tony woodcock
Tony Adams remained on the bench
Cheers
I remember a really boring spell under Howe. I recall one game when a mate and I were standing at the back in the clock end, and some fella came in late. He asked, "Any score?", and my mate replied, "Nah...not for a few weeks mate."
by Ach » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:13 pm
Galatasaray have made Arsenal's Danny Welbeck a top target before the close of the transfer window, but the striker does not want to move, AMK reports.
The Turkish giants hope to invest the money received for Champions League qualification and see the England international as an ideal candidate.
However, Welbeck says he is happy in London.
by Sims » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:26 pm
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