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Postby Cripps » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:14 pm

Xavi? Iniesta? Kroos?

Near perfect passing stats. Absolute dog end product. Unfortunately for Santi, he doesn't have a GOAT or a Messi to cover up his pointlessness.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Goonerz » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:15 pm

But this is why we love football. We all interpret it through our own perspective. I just wish we could all not get too personal and over emotional once our favourite players are criticised.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Angelito » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:08 pm

Don't know where all this negativity is coming from.

Santi Cazorla has been one of best players in the Emirates era. Despite not having won many trophies, that's saying something considering the talent we've had at our disposal. His performance against City in 2015 at the Etihad is arguably the best performance by a Gunner post-Highbury. At the least, it's right up there with Arshavin at Anfield and van Persie at Stamford Bridge/Anfield.

Santi played as a CM in that game and I've never seen an Arsenal CM dominate an opponent that way - in the Emirates era. He didn't have support system that on 07/08 boys had, or the world class partners Vieira enjoyed. In this 3-4-3, Santi would have been golden, whether alongside Coquelin or Elneny. It's just a shame he can't and probably never will play in this system.

People have to realize that central midfield is the most demanding position to play. Not even Modric and Kroos dominate games regularly and those are two of the top CMs in the world today. Under Zidane, Real Madrid's success has been built on the back of a solidity more so than flair. Santi Cazorla, for startling reasons, just turned out to be the perfect CM for us. Ramsey doesn't play like a natural CM, so let's forget about him. Xhaka is such a lopsided player - he's the Wenger of CMs. WIth Wilshere, his fitness has always been an issue. Elneny is a good player, but he's not great at anything and Coq only does well when playing alongside a technician like Cazorla.

It's not surprising that we're shambles most of the time because we lack that elusive midfield star; we lack a Cazorla. This doesn't mean we'd win or dominate every game under Santi but our record with him as a CM says it all: we play better, we function better with Cazorla in our team than without Cazorla.

No point denying that.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:15 pm

Angelito wrote:Don't know where all this negativity is coming from.

Santi Cazorla has been one of best players in the Emirates era. Despite not having won many trophies, that's saying something considering the talent we've had at our disposal. His performance against City in 2015 at the Etihad is arguably the best performance by a Gunner post-Highbury. At the least, it's right up there with Arshavin at Anfield and van Persie at Stamford Bridge/Anfield.

Santi played as a CM in that game and I've never seen an Arsenal CM dominate an opponent that way - in the Emirates era. He didn't have support system that on 07/08 boys had, or the world class partners Vieira enjoyed. In this 3-4-3, Santi would have been golden, whether alongside Coquelin or Elneny. It's just a shame he can't and probably never will play in this system.

People have to realize that central midfield is the most demanding position to play. Not even Modric and Kroos dominate games regularly and those are two of the top CMs in the world today. Under Zidane, Real Madrid's success has been built on the back of a solidity more so than flair. Santi Cazorla, for startling reasons, just turned out to be the perfect CM for us. Ramsey doesn't play like a natural CM, so let's forget about him. Xhaka is such a lopsided player - he's the Wenger of CMs. WIth Wilshere, his fitness has always been an issue. Elneny is a good player, but he's not great at anything and Coq only does well when playing alongside a technician like Cazorla.

It's not surprising that we're shambles most of the time because we lack that elusive midfield star; we lack a Cazorla. This doesn't mean we'd win or dominate every game under Santi but our record with him as a CM says it all: we play better, we function better with Cazorla in our team than without Cazorla.

No point denying that.

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Btw, Ramsey-Xhaka has a 78% win record too...... was shocked myself
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Zenith » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:09 am

^ Said percentage only means something when it is based on a substantial amount of consecutive domestic and non-domestic games, including a good number of matches against elite sides. This is currently not the case.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Callum » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:37 am

this team died with santi

goodbye sweet elf

he is in a better place now (london colney)
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby KG3 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:35 pm

Angelito wrote:Don't know where all this negativity is coming from.

Santi Cazorla has been one of best players in the Emirates era. Despite not having won many trophies, that's saying something considering the talent we've had at our disposal. His performance against City in 2015 at the Etihad is arguably the best performance by a Gunner post-Highbury. At the least, it's right up there with Arshavin at Anfield and van Persie at Stamford Bridge/Anfield.

Santi played as a CM in that game and I've never seen an Arsenal CM dominate an opponent that way - in the Emirates era. He didn't have support system that on 07/08 boys had, or the world class partners Vieira enjoyed. In this 3-4-3, Santi would have been golden, whether alongside Coquelin or Elneny. It's just a shame he can't and probably never will play in this system.

People have to realize that central midfield is the most demanding position to play. Not even Modric and Kroos dominate games regularly and those are two of the top CMs in the world today. Under Zidane, Real Madrid's success has been built on the back of a solidity more so than flair. Santi Cazorla, for startling reasons, just turned out to be the perfect CM for us. Ramsey doesn't play like a natural CM, so let's forget about him. Xhaka is such a lopsided player - he's the Wenger of CMs. WIth Wilshere, his fitness has always been an issue. Elneny is a good player, but he's not great at anything and Coq only does well when playing alongside a technician like Cazorla.

It's not surprising that we're shambles most of the time because we lack that elusive midfield star; we lack a Cazorla. This doesn't mean we'd win or dominate every game under Santi but our record with him as a CM says it all: we play better, we function better with Cazorla in our team than without Cazorla.

No point denying that.


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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby KG3 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:42 pm

Aside from Cazorla the team misses Arteta (2012-2015) and Rosicky one kept the tempo going while the other sped up our play their replacements Xhaka and Iwobi are inferior and don't bring the same aspects to the table.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Fenice » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:15 pm

I’ll never forget that City game. He was a one man Arsenal.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Sims » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:38 pm



thats a skin graft with his daughters name from his forearm

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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:46 pm

Hard to see that holding up well, especially all the twist and turns he does.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Cripps » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:47 pm

That's gross
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby DiamondGooner » Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:17 am

Fkin hell, I'm actually upset about this, Cazorla is one of my favourite players.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby Fenice » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:17 am

Absolute horror show. Hope he can fully recover and play with his kids normally.
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Re: Santi Cazorla (19)

Postby NJ_Gunner » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:28 am

He’s genuinely a good man from what everyone says. Very sad to see this. Get well soon Santi!! :crybaby:
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