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Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby Sims » Tue Dec 30, 2014 6:48 pm

Gilles Grimandi spoke to French media today about how scouting works at Arsenal and what like. He said that statistics are becoming a major part of identifying players (Arsenal/Kroenke for example bought one of the best sport data collection companies in the world).

“This job has evolved a lot. Data is taking a stronger and stronger place. You have to really argue to be against data. In a club, statistics give people the chance to exist who have little knowledge. And these numbers act as a safety guard for decision-makers who lack courage. That, yes, that annoys me.

The other problem, is that the players are aware of this trend. I ask myself to what extent they’re playing to make their numbers good, the duels they have won, the amount of kilometres they have run. It is not particularly positive: I can win 100% of my duels if I refuse to accept everything that I am risking to lose. We see more and more players fleeing the duel and I think that there is a risk that this continues until statistics count this refusal of a player to engage himself. Among very talented youngsters, the duel is a missing weapon.”


http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/20 ... -to-exist/

Completely agree with Grimandi on this. Judging a player on statistics is completely ridiculous (apart from of course goal per game etc). Statistics shouldn't be the be all and end all of judging a footballer. There's too many different variables that can't be taken into account. Such as presence on the pitch for example. It's staggering to hear that players don't enter duels/tackles sometimes because they think they're going to lose it and don't want their stats to decrease. Tl;dr f**k stats tbh
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:07 pm

Do you think they could scout us a new manager?
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby decgooner » Tue Dec 30, 2014 7:38 pm

Statistically, we have a beast of a manager. So yea, F**k statistics.
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby Smitty_AFC » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:26 pm

didn't Wenger & co buy Flamini initially solely off statistics like amount of ground covered?
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby sweggeh » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:51 pm

Smitty_AFC wrote:didn't Wenger & co buy Flamini initially solely off statistics like amount of ground covered?


Apparently he covered an insane amount of ground in a game they were scouting him at. You have to say that in his first run with us he was very good so it was definitely the right decisions.
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:57 pm

decgooner wrote:Statistically, we have a beast of a manager. So yea, F**k statistics.


Depends on what stats you look at. 3 League titles in 18 years is shit tbh.
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:42 pm

VAVAVOOM 14 wrote:
decgooner wrote:Statistically, we have a beast of a manager. So yea, F**k statistics.


Depends on what stats you look at. 3 League titles in 18 years is shit tbh.


lol.
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby Angelito » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:30 pm

Kroenke is on the verge of transforming one of England's elite club to a sports franchise that makes money, does well, but never really competes with the best in the world. Wenger, being an accountant, is living his dream.

Sigh...
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby Nuggets » Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:37 pm

We don't seem to have a very good scouting team at all, WTF are the players we need????
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby greengoonerie » Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:57 pm

Nuggets wrote:We don't seem to have a very good scouting team at all, WTF are the players we need????

In France.
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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

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Re: Arsenal's Scouting System

Postby Santi » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:17 pm

Doesn't seem to have really been mentioned on the forum but we have done a lot of revamping of our scouting team lately, hopefully seem some benefit soon and stop signing shit like xhaka.
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