Jelly123 wrote:Salt and Wenger wrote:He has been our worst defender this season cost us 2 goals yesterday but it seems like people are sweeping his lackadaisical performances under the rug.
2 goals against dortmund
could have done better for navas' cross to aguero (even though i think flamini is mainly at fault)
allowed demichelis to score
refused to jump against uloa
was shown up by ba numerous times and if ba finished we might not even be in the cl.
This is thread is embarrassing. Neither Cazorla or Flamini start so you have to find someone else to moan about after yesterdays game. Suddenly every goal we concede is Konscienly's fault
Both goals had so many mistakes in its impossible to blame just 1 person. It also seems pretty unfair to try picking out every mistake a player makes and just ignore all the good he's done
Not to mention you said "failing to stop the cross was no mistake" and blamed it entirely on flamini, when i brought this up after the city match.
or maybe i'm just being consistent
as i have said previously it seems like when the whole team performs badly people only acknowledge x scapegoat or y scapegoats performance
however in the previous game ramsey was our worst player by far and he has been one of our worst players this season barring the goals. (i'm a big ramsey fan btw but if people are going to criticise at least be consistent)
koscielny has also had a hand in the majority of the goals we've conceded due to mistakes.
Koscielny has always been known to put himself about but when he was at his worst for us his main issue were lapses in concentration which has crept up again in the games he has played this season.
You can say i'm trying to blame someone but it's quite clear that i'm not.
People on here for example aren't saying welbeck did some good plays barring his missed chances
people aren't saying ozil did some good plays barring some poor passes
(which they both did)
If people are going to slate others for not being amazing why not do the same with kos who was at fault for 2 of the goals? I would prefer if we didnt have constant threads criticizing people however if they are there why not do it fairly and not just allow the ciriticism of the in trend scapegoat?
right now we have threads on
should we sell ozil
welbeck is getting a lot of stick after 2 games
Arteta was getting a lot of stick (hence why i saw it fit to create a thread for flamini who is equally as bad)
Wilshere also has a negative thread
yet you would think that ramsey kos per etc have all been amazing when those 3 players that were key last year have all underperformed drastically this.
People keep saying its the 4141 thats causing our bad play but was it the 4141s fault that kos messed up his positioning against dortmund or allowed demichelis to score his header?
Was it the 4141s fault that per got turned by lukaku?
was it the 4141s fault that ramsey can barely string together a pass right now?
I'm not sure the formation is at fault if anything our main issue is the actual performances of our players. Ramsey, ozil, per, kos, arteta and flamini have all not beein good enough plain and simple. If we're going to have threads criticizing 1 it is only fair to do the same with the others.