Yeah the midfield is Casemiro, Kroos & Modric. La Liga also not as physical as someone said.
Isco plays further forward or as a makeshift winger that basically cuts inside all the time.
by Santi » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:49 pm
by Arsene Nose » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:03 pm
by theHotHead » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:39 pm
Mustafi wrote:theHotHead wrote:Mustafi wrote:would like to see him in a 4-3-3 with Xhaka and Wilshere in the midfield
Thats 3 lightweight CMs - you need some beef in there, that midfield would get ripped to shreds.
I agree. We need a beast midfielder. Ramsey and ElNeny are not as well, and Coq, though being more physical than the others, shouldn't be starting.
I think our best midfield trio for now are Xhaka, Wilshere and ElNeny. Niles has the potential, so I wouldn't mind giving him some games to develop.
Most importantly, Ramsey really shouldn't play as a CM. Wouldn't mind him as a shadow striker.
by theHotHead » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:44 pm
Losmeister wrote:Arsene Nose wrote:theHotHead wrote:Mustafi wrote:would like to see him in a 4-3-3 with Xhaka and Wilshere in the midfield
Thats 3 lightweight CMs - you need some beef in there, that midfield would get ripped to shreds.
Not really. Isco, Kroos and Modric seem to be doing fine. It's technical quality that matters.
thank you.
this whole english preoccupation with physicality can be baffling to me ..
by theHotHead » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:47 pm
Arsene Nose wrote:If your positioning is good, your interceptions clean and you can shield the ball with your body you don't need to be a big unit. Some of the best players in that position are like Cazorla and Kante rather small built men.
by Arsene Nose » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:48 pm
by Arsene Nose » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:50 pm
theHotHead wrote:Arsene Nose wrote:If your positioning is good, your interceptions clean and you can shield the ball with your body you don't need to be a big unit. Some of the best players in that position are like Cazorla and Kante rather small built men.
Yes but like we have seen with Xhaka and Ramsey - they can't play that role, they get steam rollered. Makelele is another example of what you speak, but he was stronger than he looked and very effective. Very few small players that can dominate the middle. Cazorla is phenomenal on the ball so can twist and turn out of trouble. Cante is strong for his size and not easy to brush off.
by theHotHead » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:32 pm
Arsene Nose wrote:So in your opinion a midfield of Ozil, Cazorla and Kante would not work in the premier league?
by theHotHead » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:34 pm
Arsene Nose wrote:theHotHead wrote:Arsene Nose wrote:If your positioning is good, your interceptions clean and you can shield the ball with your body you don't need to be a big unit. Some of the best players in that position are like Cazorla and Kante rather small built men.
Yes but like we have seen with Xhaka and Ramsey - they can't play that role, they get steam rollered. Makelele is another example of what you speak, but he was stronger than he looked and very effective. Very few small players that can dominate the middle. Cazorla is phenomenal on the ball so can twist and turn out of trouble. Cante is strong for his size and not easy to brush off.
Xhaka Ramsey is a bad example because they don't complement each other. Ramsey likes to be in a advanced role and Xhaka has poor mobility and positioning. Xhaka Cazorla would be fine. As would Ramsey Kante.
by Losmeister » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:00 pm
theHotHead wrote:He looked pretty spritely on the ball, I like the way he pops the ball forward into forward's feet. Would like to see him get more game time to see what he can really do.
by Zedie » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:02 am
by Kite33 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:20 am
Zedie wrote:No point judging him on his first half. It was his first professional game at LWB and he looked out of place, much like kolo toure did when he was deployed anywhere but CB.
The second half was a great showcase of what he's about.
Calm with and without possession, good in the tackle and reasonable at reading the play. He keeps his passes simple and has a burst of pace when he gets forward.
Iirc it was him that won the ball that set off the counter for bellerins goal outside our area.
He's really promising imo but he needs games and to bulk up before he gets serious minutes in the first team.
I was really impressed with him tbf.
I can only remember him losing out on possession once in the second half and obvs he took a touch too much when he broke into the box. Otherwise he had a really solid second half.
by Goonerz » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:27 am
by gooney » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:56 pm
Goonerz wrote:How is this guy still having chances? Every time I have watched he is a calamity waiting to happen. Poor defensively but his pace gets him out of danger. His does some of the basic errors when in possession, he nearly did a Bellerin when he gave the ball away under no pressure in the centre circle.. That back pass was funny.. And he is easily turned all the time, his pace is the only saving grace for him right now..
What is he good at? What is his best position?
by Arsene Nose » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:44 pm