by swipe right » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:42 pm
by EliteKiller » Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:55 am
swipe right wrote:Arteta made a massive mistake letting go of Ozil and Guendozi. A midfield of Ozil , Guendozi and Partey would have been very interesting. Put Auba and Laca at the top along with Saka who can drop into midfield as the extra man if we are getting overloaded.
by swipe right » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:47 am
EliteKiller wrote:swipe right wrote:Arteta made a massive mistake letting go of Ozil and Guendozi. A midfield of Ozil , Guendozi and Partey would have been very interesting. Put Auba and Laca at the top along with Saka who can drop into midfield as the extra man if we are getting overloaded.
Hahahahahahaha
Would that be the same Ozil who can't do feck all in the mickey mouse league he's joined? It's 2021 not 2017 get over it.
Moving on Ozil was one of the few good things Arteta did, sadly the board just replaced him with Auba .... we need 26/27 year old midfield players who can do three years and still have massive value to sign a new contract or to sell ... no more 30+ on long contracts with stupid salaries will we never learn?
by VCC » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:25 am
by theHotHead » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:57 am
EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
by swipe right » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:04 am
theHotHead wrote:EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
EK are you referring to British?
Im not gonna knock British, we could do with a few more players with the correct mindset at the club.
But where I depart from British is top level tekkers, too few British players have it, of the stand outs we have at the moment we have Mount, Foden, Grealish and ESR. Mount and Foden have top tekkers whereas Grealish and ESR are more your swashbuckling "Merson" types - they don't have outstanding tekkers but are all action and all over the pitch.
by jayramfootball » Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:14 pm
EliteKiller wrote:swipe right wrote:Arteta made a massive mistake letting go of Ozil and Guendozi. A midfield of Ozil , Guendozi and Partey would have been very interesting. Put Auba and Laca at the top along with Saka who can drop into midfield as the extra man if we are getting overloaded.
Hahahahahahaha
Would that be the same Ozil who can't do feck all in the mickey mouse league he's joined? It's 2021 not 2017 get over it.
Moving on Ozil was one of the few good things Arteta did, sadly the board just replaced him with Auba .... we need 26/27 year old midfield players who can do three years and still have massive value to sign a new contract or to sell ... no more 30+ on long contracts with stupid salaries will we never learn?
by theHotHead » Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:41 pm
EliteKiller wrote:swipe right wrote:Arteta made a massive mistake letting go of Ozil and Guendozi. A midfield of Ozil , Guendozi and Partey would have been very interesting. Put Auba and Laca at the top along with Saka who can drop into midfield as the extra man if we are getting overloaded.
Hahahahahahaha
Would that be the same Ozil who can't do feck all in the mickey mouse league he's joined? It's 2021 not 2017 get over it.
Moving on Ozil was one of the few good things Arteta did, sadly the board just replaced him with Auba .... we need 26/27 year old midfield players who can do three years and still have massive value to sign a new contract or to sell ... no more 30+ on long contracts with stupid salaries will we never learn?
by EliteKiller » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:38 am
theHotHead wrote:EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
EK are you referring to British?
Im not gonna knock British, we could do with a few more players with the correct mindset at the club.
But where I depart from British is top level tekkers, too few British players have it, of the stand outs we have at the moment we have Mount, Foden, Grealish and ESR. Mount and Foden have top tekkers whereas Grealish and ESR are more your swashbuckling "Merson" types - they don't have outstanding tekkers but are all action and all over the pitch.
by Power n Glory » Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:49 pm
by KG3 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:46 am
EliteKiller wrote:theHotHead wrote:EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
EK are you referring to British?
Im not gonna knock British, we could do with a few more players with the correct mindset at the club.
But where I depart from British is top level tekkers, too few British players have it, of the stand outs we have at the moment we have Mount, Foden, Grealish and ESR. Mount and Foden have top tekkers whereas Grealish and ESR are more your swashbuckling "Merson" types - they don't have outstanding tekkers but are all action and all over the pitch.
No question that you pay a premium for British talent due to the home grown rules, that said there has been a lot of high quality British talent coming through as the EPL academies now scoop up almost all the young talent because simply because of their financial clout ...
I'm not saying we have to buy all British, but we do have to comply with the home grown rule, but we need to buy guys with 2/3 years EPL experience who still have 7/8 years left in them ... players around 23/24/25 if you look at last summer Barkley, Chilwell, Batshuayi, Godfrey, Wilson, KWP, Hojbjerg and sadly for us Martinez all now look like good value buys.
Sometimes we need to buy solid squad players rather than risky potential stars ....
by jayramfootball » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:08 am
KG3 wrote:EliteKiller wrote:theHotHead wrote:EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
EK are you referring to British?
Im not gonna knock British, we could do with a few more players with the correct mindset at the club.
But where I depart from British is top level tekkers, too few British players have it, of the stand outs we have at the moment we have Mount, Foden, Grealish and ESR. Mount and Foden have top tekkers whereas Grealish and ESR are more your swashbuckling "Merson" types - they don't have outstanding tekkers but are all action and all over the pitch.
No question that you pay a premium for British talent due to the home grown rules, that said there has been a lot of high quality British talent coming through as the EPL academies now scoop up almost all the young talent because simply because of their financial clout ...
I'm not saying we have to buy all British, but we do have to comply with the home grown rule, but we need to buy guys with 2/3 years EPL experience who still have 7/8 years left in them ... players around 23/24/25 if you look at last summer Barkley, Chilwell, Batshuayi, Godfrey, Wilson, KWP, Hojbjerg and sadly for us Martinez all now look like good value buys.
Sometimes we need to buy solid squad players rather than risky potential stars ....
I’ve been saying this for time just look at Liverpool with Robertson and Wijnaldum those two were questionable buys at the time but now look how important they’re to the Liverpool side, arguably top 3/5 in their respective positions.
Ferguson was someone who understood how good BPL experience players were Van der Saar, Valencia, Tevez, Carrick, Saha etc the list goes on
BPL experience is very underrated we need to start spending our money better we paid more for Xhaka when Kante was available, could have had Mahrez the year before for less than what we paid for Pepe
by Ach » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:43 pm
Real Madrid are unwilling to sell Martin Odegaard to Arsenal this summer - according to Marca.
It has been suggested that the Gunners will try to make the Norwegian's loan deal at Emirates Stadium permanent this summer, but the Blancos have no plans to sanction his departure.
Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, and Federico Valverde have also been placed on the non-transferable list alongside Odegaard, who has impressed in the Premier League since joining Arsenal in January.
by theHotHead » Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:19 pm
KG3 wrote:EliteKiller wrote:theHotHead wrote:EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
EK are you referring to British?
Im not gonna knock British, we could do with a few more players with the correct mindset at the club.
But where I depart from British is top level tekkers, too few British players have it, of the stand outs we have at the moment we have Mount, Foden, Grealish and ESR. Mount and Foden have top tekkers whereas Grealish and ESR are more your swashbuckling "Merson" types - they don't have outstanding tekkers but are all action and all over the pitch.
No question that you pay a premium for British talent due to the home grown rules, that said there has been a lot of high quality British talent coming through as the EPL academies now scoop up almost all the young talent because simply because of their financial clout ...
I'm not saying we have to buy all British, but we do have to comply with the home grown rule, but we need to buy guys with 2/3 years EPL experience who still have 7/8 years left in them ... players around 23/24/25 if you look at last summer Barkley, Chilwell, Batshuayi, Godfrey, Wilson, KWP, Hojbjerg and sadly for us Martinez all now look like good value buys.
Sometimes we need to buy solid squad players rather than risky potential stars ....
I’ve been saying this for time just look at Liverpool with Robertson and Wijnaldum those two were questionable buys at the time but now look how important they’re to the Liverpool side, arguably top 3/5 in their respective positions.
Ferguson was someone who understood how good BPL experience players were Van der Saar, Valencia, Tevez, Carrick, Saha etc the list goes on
BPL experience is very underrated we need to start spending our money better we paid more for Xhaka when Kante was available, could have had Mahrez the year before for less than what we paid for Pepe
Edit: This is why I was trying to tell people Zaha would have been a better signing for us than Pepe, Zaha isn’t worth the money either, but the difference is we know he’s capable of performing at a consistent level, in a better side than Palace he could only do better
This season in the Zaha 9G, 2A in 22 games, Sterling 9G, 6A in 26 games, Mahrez 9G, 4A in 24 games, Zaha is providing similar numbers as two wingers in a world class XI, who are currently on their way to another BPL, only difference is Zaha doesn’t have any world class players around him. Anyways we went for the wrong Ivorian nothing we can do about it now lol
by jayramfootball » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:51 am
theHotHead wrote:KG3 wrote:EliteKiller wrote:theHotHead wrote:EliteKiller wrote:The problem/risk you take with any young player who has a reputation far above his achievements to date is the price.
In any sane world Odegaard a 22 year old bench player at RM who has been loaned out to get game time is worth 10m and 50k a week - however Madrid want 60m and Odegaard allegedly wants 100K plus ....
This can go two ways if we invest 100m in the player with a five year contract:
A) He becomes a legendary AM assisting and scoring 20 goals a season
B) He becomes another overpaid squad player who we sell at a 60m loss in three/four years time.
Is this a good gamble? in my opinion no it isn't, how has it worked out with Pepe and Torreira?
Far better spending that 100m on three more Kieran Tierney type players, far less risky with three chances of a win versus one and if they don't make the grade then we're not stuck with massively overpaid squad fillers.
Odegaard might be the next KDB but should we bet the house on that?
EK are you referring to British?
Im not gonna knock British, we could do with a few more players with the correct mindset at the club.
But where I depart from British is top level tekkers, too few British players have it, of the stand outs we have at the moment we have Mount, Foden, Grealish and ESR. Mount and Foden have top tekkers whereas Grealish and ESR are more your swashbuckling "Merson" types - they don't have outstanding tekkers but are all action and all over the pitch.
No question that you pay a premium for British talent due to the home grown rules, that said there has been a lot of high quality British talent coming through as the EPL academies now scoop up almost all the young talent because simply because of their financial clout ...
I'm not saying we have to buy all British, but we do have to comply with the home grown rule, but we need to buy guys with 2/3 years EPL experience who still have 7/8 years left in them ... players around 23/24/25 if you look at last summer Barkley, Chilwell, Batshuayi, Godfrey, Wilson, KWP, Hojbjerg and sadly for us Martinez all now look like good value buys.
Sometimes we need to buy solid squad players rather than risky potential stars ....
I’ve been saying this for time just look at Liverpool with Robertson and Wijnaldum those two were questionable buys at the time but now look how important they’re to the Liverpool side, arguably top 3/5 in their respective positions.
Ferguson was someone who understood how good BPL experience players were Van der Saar, Valencia, Tevez, Carrick, Saha etc the list goes on
BPL experience is very underrated we need to start spending our money better we paid more for Xhaka when Kante was available, could have had Mahrez the year before for less than what we paid for Pepe
Edit: This is why I was trying to tell people Zaha would have been a better signing for us than Pepe, Zaha isn’t worth the money either, but the difference is we know he’s capable of performing at a consistent level, in a better side than Palace he could only do better
This season in the Zaha 9G, 2A in 22 games, Sterling 9G, 6A in 26 games, Mahrez 9G, 4A in 24 games, Zaha is providing similar numbers as two wingers in a world class XI, who are currently on their way to another BPL, only difference is Zaha doesn’t have any world class players around him. Anyways we went for the wrong Ivorian nothing we can do about it now lol
Now take into account that Pepe has scored 5 goals and got 1 assist in 1233 Prem mins compared to Zaha's 1983 mins and Sterling's 2176 mins.