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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:32 pmstarmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:11 pmPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:51 pmPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:58 pmPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:32 amswipe right wrote:Jens was right.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:12 amtheHotHead wrote:Power n Glory wrote:
Moyes took over last season when West Ham were in the relegation zone. He saved them from relegation and West Ham sacked Pellerini to appoint Moyes. There wasn’t a turnaround from the same manager.
Villa is a different story. They were playing Championship football the league before. I doubt there would have been a major outcry for him to be sacked if that were our position.
I agree with this, those are 2 entirely different scenarios to ours and Arteta's starting position. The only squads that are better than ours are Man City and Liverpool, I can't honestly say that Chelsea, Man U or Spurs have a better squad than us, Leicester, West Ham, Everton and Villa definitely don't have better squads than us. The fact that Arteta has got a decent team playing like chumps is not the fault of the players, especially when you consider that this squad is better thean emery's last squad and Emery's last squad is better than Wenger's last squad !
Who would I take from Chelsea ? Maybe Mount but I prefer ESR, Havertz doesn't get a game, Werner doesn't cut it for me and neither does Ziyech. Partey is better than Kante.
Who would I take from Man U ? Fernandes, Pogba, Rashford, Wan Bisaka. But at the same time I think Auba, Gabriel, Leno, Partey, Saka and ESR get into their team too.
Who would I take from Spurs ? Kane, Son, thats it, all their other players are no better than what we have.
If anyone tells me Leicester and Villa have better squads than us I know they are either wumming or just trying to stick to their argument and not give ground. The Leicester players I would take are Vardy, Barnes, Maddison and Perreira. Again I think Auba, Gabriel, Saka, Tierney and Partey get into their squad.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:52 amstarmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:48 pmPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:15 pmPower n Glory wrote:I don’t believe it to be good enough
I don’t believe it to be worse than 17/18
I am not fudging win loss
They are facts
We are better defensively now than we were in wenger’s last 36 games as well
It's not a fact. At this stage of the season under Wenger we lost 9 games across all competitions where Arteta has lost 13 games. In the Premier League alone had lost 7 under Wenger. We've just lost for the 11th time under Arteta. What facts are you looking at?
We're 10th in the league now, this time under Wenger we were 6th! The defensive record doesn't matter when looking in isolation. What about goals? Totally disagree with you on this one.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:30 pmtheHotHead wrote:starmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
Exactly Starmandb. As you have often pointed out, we are a huge club and we should not drop our standards. What we have seen so far this season is abysmal. I refuse to accept this as the new norm.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:33 pmNuggets wrote:starmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
You are living in the past, we are a big club with small ambitions otherwise we would NEVER taken on a manager who had never managed a team in his life because he was the cheap option.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:39 pmstarmandb wrote:Nuggets wrote:starmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
You are living in the past, we are a big club with small ambitions otherwise we would NEVER taken on a manager who had never managed a team in his life because he was the cheap option.
We have a player in the squad who has been here for all of our 4 fa cup wins
Spurs still not troubled the engraver
How is that living in the past?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:50 pmgamechannel wrote:theHotHead wrote:Power n Glory wrote:
Moyes took over last season when West Ham were in the relegation zone. He saved them from relegation and West Ham sacked Pellerini to appoint Moyes. There wasn’t a turnaround from the same manager.
Villa is a different story. They were playing Championship football the league before. I doubt there would have been a major outcry for him to be sacked if that were our position.
I agree with this, those are 2 entirely different scenarios to ours and Arteta's starting position. The only squads that are better than ours are Man City and Liverpool, I can't honestly say that Chelsea, Man U or Spurs have a better squad than us, Leicester, West Ham, Everton and Villa definitely don't have better squads than us. The fact that Arteta has got a decent team playing like chumps is not the fault of the players, especially when you consider that this squad is better thean emery's last squad and Emery's last squad is better than Wenger's last squad !
Who would I take from Chelsea ? Maybe Mount but I prefer ESR, Havertz doesn't get a game, Werner doesn't cut it for me and neither does Ziyech. Partey is better than Kante.
Who would I take from Man U ? Fernandes, Pogba, Rashford, Wan Bisaka. But at the same time I think Auba, Gabriel, Leno, Partey, Saka and ESR get into their team too.
Who would I take from Spurs ? Kane, Son, thats it, all their other players are no better than what we have.
If anyone tells me Leicester and Villa have better squads than us I know they are either wumming or just trying to stick to their argument and not give ground. The Leicester players I would take are Vardy, Barnes, Maddison and Perreira. Again I think Auba, Gabriel, Saka, Tierney and Partey get into their squad.
Their formula is simple. Suck off Artetas nuts when we win and blame the players when we lose. You won't convince them. He dresses up in those European fit turtle necks and jackets, uses an iPad, barks instructions from the sidelines, pretends as if he knows what he's doing, has a hot wife, uses buzz words like process, non-negotiables, tactics etc and has good dark hair. That's enough for them to collectively scream like little school girls, "OMG! MY MANAGER!!"
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:51 pmNuggets wrote:starmandb wrote:Nuggets wrote:starmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
You are living in the past, we are a big club with small ambitions otherwise we would NEVER taken on a manager who had never managed a team in his life because he was the cheap option.
We have a player in the squad who has been here for all of our 4 fa cup wins
Spurs still not troubled the engraver
How is that living in the past?
I am talking about the club in general, we were a better club than the spuds in the past but we are on the same sh1t level now.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:44 pmtheHotHead wrote:Nuggets wrote:starmandb wrote:Nuggets wrote:starmandb wrote:theHotHead wrote:If reports are correct Mourinho had/has a game or 2 to keep his job.
Meanwhile Arteta who is doing even worse is under no pressure.
Remind me who is the bigger club?!
Us with the 31 trophies
You are living in the past, we are a big club with small ambitions otherwise we would NEVER taken on a manager who had never managed a team in his life because he was the cheap option.
We have a player in the squad who has been here for all of our 4 fa cup wins
Spurs still not troubled the engraver
How is that living in the past?
I am talking about the club in general, we were a better club than the spuds in the past but we are on the same sh1t level now.
I hear what you are saying but, as a club, there is no way Spurs are at our level or us at their level. We won a major trophy last season, they last won a major trophy in 2008 and that was the Carling Cup. They haven't been at our level for decades, just because they finished above us a few times, that didn't change their standing.
As a team, yes they overtook us, but I think we are at a similar level right now. they have been hanging on to our shirt tails since I have been a fan of Arsenal, in the mid-70s.
