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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Özim » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:51 pm

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Santi wrote:tired of u moaning about arteta as well buddy but hey


Not my fault he’s incompetent and can’t do better than midtable despite all that he has at his disposal.


What's he got at his disposal?

Decent keeper
shit rbs
shit rcbs
good lcb
good lb
shit cms x 4
shit rw x 72m
lazy ass lw x 350k pw
GOAT cf
great young kid x2

mmm yeah should be top tbh


What we have amounts to much better than 10th or below, there’s inferior squads doing better. 11 defeats is awful given the squad.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:55 pm

Yes and part of the reason we are 10th, as we were saying, is because of a bullshit red at Wolves. Without that we could easily have 3 more points than we have and would've been on a 5/6 game win streak by the time we played Villa. Our momentum got killed.

Yes I'd love to be good enough that we could regroup 2nd half and steal a 2-1 win but face it, could have Klopp managing this squad and we probs wouldn't win that game after the red. Shit happens but it seems to happen to us more than most atm and it's not helping us gain any momentum when we really need it.

No doubt you'll ignore all that and say he started Luiz so it's his fault, yawn.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:56 pm

btw only Villa and West Ham really have inferior squads so not like we're massively out of place, should be 8th.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:57 pm

Santi living in the world of ifs and buts
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:57 pm

and you're living in the world of troll c****...how is it over there?
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:58 pm

David Moyes has West Ham in 4th and they were close to relegation last season. Same goes for Aston Villa.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:59 pm

Power n Glory wrote:David Moyes has West Ham in 4th and they were close to relegation last season. Same goes for Aston Villa.


Yep and both managers would've been sacked by GW.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby starmandb » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:01 pm

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alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.

To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.


This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.

How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.


We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.

Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.

He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.

It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.

Fear of change is not a good reason for keeping a manager that isn’t working
Arsenal are a massive draw card for any manager
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:08 pm

Santi wrote:and you're living in the world of troll c****...how is it over there?

Ah the usual boring retort by the clueless.

Living in your head. It's not pretty. The Arteta obsession and Auba hatred has done something to you. Used to be a good poster but now just a sheep depending on what certain others say.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Power n Glory » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:09 pm

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Power n Glory wrote:David Moyes has West Ham in 4th and they were close to relegation last season. Same goes for Aston Villa.


Yep and both managers would've been sacked by GW.


Don't be silly. GW doesn't have that sort of authority. :rolleyes:

I'm sure there would be a unanimous approval of those managers if we had those results but that's not the point.

Two teams with worse squads, have historically been worse and were in a relegation scraps last year but they're ahead of us this year.

Our squad isn't great but some poor decisions have been made and it reflects in our league position and record.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Özim » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:10 pm

Santi wrote:Yes and part of the reason we are 10th, as we were saying, is because of a bullshit red at Wolves. Without that we could easily have 3 more points than we have and would've been on a 5/6 game win streak by the time we played Villa. Our momentum got killed.

Yes I'd love to be good enough that we could regroup 2nd half and steal a 2-1 win but face it, could have Klopp managing this squad and we probs wouldn't win that game after the red. Shit happens but it seems to happen to us more than most atm and it's not helping us gain any momentum when we really need it.

No doubt you'll ignore all that and say he started Luiz so it's his fault, yawn.


Other teams could probably say exactly the same, if they’d not had this decision against them they’d have more points, works both ways.

Decisions aren’t the reason we are where we are, over a long period it’s performances that dictate position not the odd bad decision, we’ve been 10th or below all season and the reason Arteta, not because of a few decisions which would have also happened to other teams.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:10 pm

Power n Glory wrote:
Santi wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:David Moyes has West Ham in 4th and they were close to relegation last season. Same goes for Aston Villa.


Yep and both managers would've been sacked by GW.


Don't be silly. GW doesn't have that sort of authority. :rolleyes:

I'm sure there would be a unanimous approval of those managers if we had those results but that's not the point.

Two teams with worse squads, have historically been worse and were in a relegation scraps last year but they're ahead of us this year.

Our squad isn't great but some poor decisions have been made and it reflects in our league position and record.

Never Artetas fault
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Özim » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:12 pm

Santi wrote:btw only Villa and West Ham really have inferior squads so not like we're massively out of place, should be 8th.


I’d say Everton have an inferior squad too, also if Leeds win their game in hand they can go above us.

Looking at our squad we actually have a decent defence if Saliba had been given a chance, up front too we’ve got quality, midfield is the area we lack but Arteta chose to bring in Odergaard and keep Ceballos and persist with Xhaka so it’s on him, he also got to spend 45 million on Partey so he’s had plenty of chances to improve this if he felt he needed to.

We’ve also got some very exciting young talent in Martinelli, Saka and ESR, so I actually think our squad is really a lot better than some think, certainly a lot better than 10th.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby aniym » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:15 pm

Power n Glory wrote:David Moyes has West Ham in 4th and they were close to relegation last season. Same goes for Aston Villa.


According to the logic of some, this means we need to stick to Arteta longer. He needs to survive at least a season long relegation scrap before he can get us back in the CL.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:15 pm

Power n Glory wrote:
Santi wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:David Moyes has West Ham in 4th and they were close to relegation last season. Same goes for Aston Villa.


Yep and both managers would've been sacked by GW.


Don't be silly. GW doesn't have that sort of authority. :rolleyes:

I'm sure there would be a unanimous approval of those managers if we had those results but that's not the point.

Two teams with worse squads, have historically been worse and were in a relegation scraps last year but they're ahead of us this year.

Our squad isn't great but some poor decisions have been made and it reflects in our league position and record.


I was talking about last season, GW would've wanted both managers sacked who have since managed to turn it around.

Btw I have no doubt Villa will continue to fall off and likely end up below us, West Ham probably not. Agree with your last sentence.
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