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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby VCC » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:24 am

Prefer if deals are put in place and agreed early enough in summer for new players to have a decent settle in at pre- season. But hey it will all in reality happen the day before the window closes in panic, that's the way we roll
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby aniym » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:29 am

We still need signings, so I hope Arteta is pushing for those. We have EL fixtures starting up again in a month.

Domestic cups are out of the question, but Arteta can still salvage some of this season if he can take this shithouse of a team at least close to the final.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby ag6789 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:46 am

Edu is looking into Bruno Guimaraes transfer from a Brazilian club. He is supposed to be an all-round midfielder ready for battle.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby elkanofan » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:54 am

Jedi wrote:
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swipe right wrote:There is no doubt we look a better side under Arteta than Emery. But we need urgent reinforcements in midfield and defense. Sadly I don’t see our geniuses Raul and Edu securing them. Raul only seems to buy from agents he’s friends with and Edu doesn’t seem to know anyone outside the youth teams of Brazil.

It's not a race. January is an awful transfer window and even if we don't sign anyone that's completely fine.


I don't care how shit January is for transfers, we need players and we need them now! An attacking Mid and utility defensive cover for CB and LB.

The squad we have right now will not absolutely nothing this season.

Our season is already over. What would we be buying for? We're not getting top 4 and one or two january transfers aren't going to make much difference in cup competitions. We just need to take the L and strengthen in the summer. No panic buys.


and who the f**k is going to join us when we narrowly beat the drop, no CL, not EL, Auba leaves and we have few to no top level players anymore?

Your neglecting the 15 leagues games left, the EL to come and all the injuries to come we must contend with.

We have won 3 games in the league under 3 different coaches since October 1st.

We have won 5 games since then adding the win vs Guimaraes and Leeds at home.

Injuries, big injuries are only just starting to mount up with many, tough games ahead in 3 competitions.

We are a rudderless club drifting towards to drop with the only salvation at best midtable mediocrity and a AC Milan future future of this continually for the next 5 years at best with how things are moving.

We need players now, right now, right f***ing now and no later by February 1st! We need an attacking mid, we need a midfielder with movement to link our play between transitions and help allow our wingers and forwards to run in behind. We need CB and LB cover! If we don't sort this out we are in deep shit, deeper than the crisis we are already in.
You need to start concerning yourself with now and today because the tomorrow of next season will look very bleak unless we have clear ambition of CL football ready to present to new signings.

Aubameyang is 100% gone unless we win the Europa League or somehow by a miracle get top 4!

Arteta needs help from upstairs and so far he ain't getting enough help.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Jack The Ripper » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:03 am

I doubt they are gonna give lots of money to Arteta to spend on new players, he is only a short term manager to fill in because no one else is available. Like I said many times I don't expect Arteta to be here by christmas 2020.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby swipe right » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:05 am

The post Wenger era is a bloody disaster.
- the value of the club has plummeted. We are no longer top ten in Europe on value
- Gazidis who was supposed to lead us fcked off
- Raul and Edu are not of a premier league level
- the players signed like Pepe, Luis and Sokratis are mediocre and that’s being generous. I would say we got conned in those deals
- players look disinterested with key players either hungering to leave or refusing to sign new deals

We have won 2 of our last 14 games and are sitting in tenth. And people are claiming scrapping fifth or sixth would be great.

Looking at this honestly one would have to conclude sacking Wenger was a massive mistake. The club has fallen many levels since then.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby UFGN » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:57 am

swipe right wrote:The post Wenger era is a bloody disaster.
- the value of the club has plummeted. We are no longer top ten in Europe on value
- Gazidis who was supposed to lead us fcked off
- Raul and Edu are not of a premier league level
- the players signed like Pepe, Luis and Sokratis are mediocre and that’s being generous. I would say we got conned in those deals
- players look disinterested with key players either hungering to leave or refusing to sign new deals

We have won 2 of our last 14 games and are sitting in tenth. And people are claiming scrapping fifth or sixth would be great.

Looking at this honestly one would have to conclude sacking Wenger was a massive mistake. The club has fallen many levels since then.


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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby LMAO » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:02 am

Jedi wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
Jedi wrote:
swipe right wrote:There is no doubt we look a better side under Arteta than Emery. But we need urgent reinforcements in midfield and defense. Sadly I don’t see our geniuses Raul and Edu securing them. Raul only seems to buy from agents he’s friends with and Edu doesn’t seem to know anyone outside the youth teams of Brazil.

It's not a race. January is an awful transfer window and even if we don't sign anyone that's completely fine.


I don't care how shit January is for transfers, we need players and we need them now! An attacking Mid and utility defensive cover for CB and LB.

The squad we have right now will not absolutely nothing this season.

Our season is already over. What would we be buying for? We're not getting top 4 and one or two january transfers aren't going to make much difference in cup competitions. We just need to take the L and strengthen in the summer. No panic buys.


This. Can't believe people want to sign players just to sign them.

What happens if we sign Kurzawa this window on a 5.5 year deal and he turns out to be another injury table all-star? That's just more deadwood we'll have to shift.

The only signings we should be looking at are 6 month loans (unless we find a fantastic deal like Minamino but that's a tall order with only 12 days left in January).

We're still mathematically in contention for top 4 and the EL, so I'm fine with going all out in them. But tbh, if 4th isn't within 8 points come mid-March, then I'm fine with ditching the league and completely focusing on winning the EL. In terms of league positions, I'd rather miss out on the EL next season and have complete focus in the league if we're not getting CL.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby VCC » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:20 am

ag6789 wrote:Edu is looking into Bruno Guimaraes transfer from a Brazilian club. He is supposed to be an all-round midfielder ready for battle.

What is he like ?
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby VCC » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:28 am

LMAO wrote:
Jedi wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
Jedi wrote:
swipe right wrote:There is no doubt we look a better side under Arteta than Emery. But we need urgent reinforcements in midfield and defense. Sadly I don’t see our geniuses Raul and Edu securing them. Raul only seems to buy from agents he’s friends with and Edu doesn’t seem to know anyone outside the youth teams of Brazil.

It's not a race. January is an awful transfer window and even if we don't sign anyone that's completely fine.


I don't care how shit January is for transfers, we need players and we need them now! An attacking Mid and utility defensive cover for CB and LB.

The squad we have right now will not absolutely nothing this season.

Our season is already over. What would we be buying for? We're not getting top 4 and one or two january transfers aren't going to make much difference in cup competitions. We just need to take the L and strengthen in the summer. No panic buys.


This. Can't believe people want to sign players just to sign them.

What happens if we sign Kurzawa this window on a 5.5 year deal and he turns out to be another injury table all-star? That's just more deadwood we'll have to shift.

The only signings we should be looking at are 6 month loans (unless we find a fantastic deal like Minamino but that's a tall order with only 12 days left in January).

We're still mathematically in contention for top 4 and the EL, so I'm fine with going all out in them. But tbh, if 4th isn't within 8 points come mid-March, then I'm fine with ditching the league and completely focusing on winning the EL. In terms of league positions, I'd rather miss out on the EL next season and have complete focus in the league if we're not getting CL.

If you have to open a five year deal from the outset there has to be something wrong imo,
It's either a player at the end of a career looking for a retirement package
Or a player not confident in his own ability to sign and then renegotiate when he has produced the goods that demands an on going period for more money
I am sure an agent wants the biggest deal for the longest period makes their job easier
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby swipe right » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:37 am

VCC wrote:
ag6789 wrote:Edu is looking into Bruno Guimaraes transfer from a Brazilian club. He is supposed to be an all-round midfielder ready for battle.

What is he like ?

Like a blind date on Tinder. Could be hot as f but more likely to be a waste of time and money.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby VCC » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:46 am

swipe right wrote:
VCC wrote:
ag6789 wrote:Edu is looking into Bruno Guimaraes transfer from a Brazilian club. He is supposed to be an all-round midfielder ready for battle.

What is he like ?

Like a blind date on Tinder. Could be hot as f but more likely to be a waste of time and money.

Lol :rofll:
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Angelito » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:48 am

Tony Adams wrote:
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Tony Adams wrote:Angelito "emery is everything arsenal isn't"

No, he's everything Arsene isn't. You don't win titles passing it around on the half way line and filling the team with 5'6 playmakers. Unless of course you have the funds for Messi types. Even Guardiola had Fernandinho in midfield when he was winning titles playing the game Wenger aspired to.


Hate using WWE references but...

Modern day Arsenal is Wenger's blood, Wenger's sweat, Wenger's creation.

The last two decades of Arsenal is Arsene Wenger. He made us the sexiest side in Europe. That's a fact.

If we really wanted to change paths, there were only two coaches who could do it successfully: Conte and Simeone. Conte was available. We decided against hiring him.

Those 5'6" playmakers that you continue talking about nearly won the league twice. If we had the funds, if we had CR7, which we didn't because of lack of funds, that 07/08 side we had would go down as one of the best sides in English football history. In 2009, it would be Barcelona vs Arsenal in a UCL Final rematch.

Pep has unlimited resources on top of being a top class coach. How long will we ignore the fact that we were bare to the bones from the time of the Invincibles until 13/14?
'Nearly' won the league? Well in that case we should keep Emery cos he 'nearly' finished top four and 'nearly' won the europa league lol.

We also had diarra, song and flamini at DM when the season started.


Yeah. If Emery had a history of finishing in the top-4, then that collapse wouldn't have mattered. He'd still be on the job right now. Different circumstances? You can't look at every flower with the same lens, mate.

We saw a similar collapse in 10/11 when we were poised to win the league but tailed off miserably—handing over the title to ManU. That collapse was grounds for sacking but Wenger's history and our financial state told another story, which is why he continued.

On the same note, you surely aren't comparing that 07-10 side to Emery's side, are you? If we even had as much to spend as we have today, we would have won the League and would be losing to Barca in the UCL Final again.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Tony Adams » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:20 am

swipe right wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:
Angelito wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:Angelito "emery is everything arsenal isn't"

No, he's everything Arsene isn't. You don't win titles passing it around on the half way line and filling the team with 5'6 playmakers. Unless of course you have the funds for Messi types. Even Guardiola had Fernandinho in midfield when he was winning titles playing the game Wenger aspired to.


Hate using WWE references but...

Modern day Arsenal is Wenger's blood, Wenger's sweat, Wenger's creation.

The last two decades of Arsenal is Arsene Wenger. He made us the sexiest side in Europe. That's a fact.

If we really wanted to change paths, there were only two coaches who could do it successfully: Conte and Simeone. Conte was available. We decided against hiring him.

Those 5'6" playmakers that you continue talking about nearly won the league twice. If we had the funds, if we had CR7, which we didn't because of lack of funds, that 07/08 side we had would go down as one of the best sides in English football history. In 2009, it would be Barcelona vs Arsenal in a UCL Final rematch.

Pep has unlimited resources on top of being a top class coach. How long will we ignore the fact that we were bare to the bones from the time of the Invincibles until 13/14?
'Nearly' won the league? Well in that case we should keep Emery cos he 'nearly' finished top four and 'nearly' won the europa league lol.

We also had diarra, song and flamini at DM when the season started.

You were running around calling Emery The Don. Please don’t make us laugh now with your comments on Wenger. You have zero credibility.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby LMAO » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:35 am

elkanofan wrote:
Jedi wrote:
elkanofan wrote:
Jedi wrote:
swipe right wrote:There is no doubt we look a better side under Arteta than Emery. But we need urgent reinforcements in midfield and defense. Sadly I don’t see our geniuses Raul and Edu securing them. Raul only seems to buy from agents he’s friends with and Edu doesn’t seem to know anyone outside the youth teams of Brazil.

It's not a race. January is an awful transfer window and even if we don't sign anyone that's completely fine.


I don't care how shit January is for transfers, we need players and we need them now! An attacking Mid and utility defensive cover for CB and LB.

The squad we have right now will not absolutely nothing this season.

Our season is already over. What would we be buying for? We're not getting top 4 and one or two january transfers aren't going to make much difference in cup competitions. We just need to take the L and strengthen in the summer. No panic buys.


and who the f**k is going to join us when we narrowly beat the drop, no CL, not EL, Auba leaves and we have few to no top level players anymore?

Your neglecting the 15 leagues games left, the EL to come and all the injuries to come we must contend with.

We have won 3 games in the league under 3 different coaches since October 1st.

We have won 5 games since then adding the win vs Guimaraes and Leeds at home.

Injuries, big injuries are only just starting to mount up with many, tough games ahead in 3 competitions.

We are a rudderless club drifting towards to drop with the only salvation at best midtable mediocrity and a AC Milan future future of this continually for the next 5 years at best with how things are moving.

We need players now, right now, right f***ing now and no later by February 1st! We need an attacking mid, we need a midfielder with movement to link our play between transitions and help allow our wingers and forwards to run in behind. We need CB and LB cover! If we don't sort this out we are in deep shit, deeper than the crisis we are already in.
You need to start concerning yourself with now and today because the tomorrow of next season will look very bleak unless we have clear ambition of CL football ready to present to new signings.

Aubameyang is 100% gone unless we win the Europa League or somehow by a miracle get top 4!

Arteta needs help from upstairs and so far he ain't getting enough help.


No cap being in Europe is overrated when it comes to buying players.

Kante, Mane, Gini, Skriniar, Werner

All bought by their current clubs during a season the club didn't play in a European competition.
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