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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Özim » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:32 pm

Santi wrote:
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Santi wrote:Still enjoyed today’s game more than any league game under emery tbh.
What passing it around on the half way line? Might as well go watch a training session. It was boring.



At least we made the halfway line. Under emery we had 11 players in our own box at home to Huddersfield or such shit


Not when he first arrived.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Santi » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:36 pm

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Santi wrote:Still enjoyed today’s game more than any league game under emery tbh.
What passing it around on the half way line? Might as well go watch a training session. It was boring.


Pretty much, people are hyping Arteta as if he's produced some brilliant football and results, it's been pretty average on both scores, with the forwards and players we have we should be using their pace and trying more counter attacking football (which is better to watch anyway), not this pathetic 5 yard nonsense Wenger had us playing for years that never worked.

A forward line of Pepe, Auba and Lacazette are made for that and in fact even Ozil excelled in that kind of style.


Yadda yadda the guy who can’t find a single positive thing to say about arteta or the last few weeks.

I was against the appointment at first as well, same reasons as you..it’s a cheapskate small time appointment. However he’s definitely got them performing better than before if nothing else and I don’t expect miracles in the space of a few weeks. He always has the right attitude and says the right things as well which helps. Obviously if the results don’t back it up over an extended period then he should be questioned, but for now we need to give it time.

I’d also suggest the result against Chelsea doesn’t reflect how well we played at least in the first half and the fact we lost was a stupid collapse. It’s not a free pass but a bit more understandable than just ZOMG WE LOST.

Plus emery got a free season, why doesn’t Arteta at least get the rest of this season to show what he can do? I’m not usually a ‘let’s be positive for positives sake’ but I cba being so down about football all the time, let’s try and be positive and make the team feel that in the ground.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Santi » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:37 pm

Özim wrote:
Santi wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:
Santi wrote:Still enjoyed today’s game more than any league game under emery tbh.
What passing it around on the half way line? Might as well go watch a training session. It was boring.



At least we made the halfway line. Under emery we had 11 players in our own box at home to Huddersfield or such shit


Not when he first arrived.


Yes it was, was always the same shit no style from the start, we just were getting better results. Told Pudpop this from day 1, can find the posts if you’re bothered enough.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Özim » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:40 pm

Santi wrote:
Özim wrote:
Santi wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:
Santi wrote:Still enjoyed today’s game more than any league game under emery tbh.
What passing it around on the half way line? Might as well go watch a training session. It was boring.



At least we made the halfway line. Under emery we had 11 players in our own box at home to Huddersfield or such shit


Not when he first arrived.


Yes it was, was always the same shit no style from the start, we just were getting better results. Told Pudpop this from day 1, can find the posts if you’re bothered enough.


Not true, we were closing the opposition down and passing from the back when he arrived and he was getting results, albeit with some luck, but it's been no different for Arteta to be honest.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Goonerz » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:41 pm

Jedi wrote:Reminder that Pep barely finished in top 4 in his first season (only 3 points above Arsenal that was in 5th) and then demolished the league and broke the points record in the following season.

It takes a very long time to really implement this brand of football, yet we're already playing much better. I'd rather we won today, but i'm not fussed about results at all. It's all about implementing the style.

I'm very confident we will be very competitive next season as long as something doesn't go terribly wrong in the recruitments department.

How much did Pep spend after that season?
And what quality of player was he afforded by the City owners?
And on top of that he was already a world class manager that had won big trophies already.

On the other hand we have Arteta that has absolutely no history in management whatsoever. Nothing to judge him on apart from sitting next to Pep.

Your comparison is as off the mark as it gets. Lol

Arteta has excited me so far even though I was agnostic about his appointment. Same as I was when we appointed Emery. Arteta has given me more optimism even if that is not much to say.
Same optimism Emery had given in his first few games as manager.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Santi » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:45 pm

Özim wrote:
Santi wrote:
Özim wrote:
Santi wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:
Santi wrote:Still enjoyed today’s game more than any league game under emery tbh.
What passing it around on the half way line? Might as well go watch a training session. It was boring.



At least we made the halfway line. Under emery we had 11 players in our own box at home to Huddersfield or such shit


Not when he first arrived.


Yes it was, was always the same shit no style from the start, we just were getting better results. Told Pudpop this from day 1, can find the posts if you’re bothered enough.


Not true, we were closing the opposition down and passing from the back when he arrived and he was getting results, albeit with some luck, but it's been no different for Arteta to be honest.


We were passing from the back when he left as well. Only difference at the start was a bit more energy from new manager bounce but the style was still non-existent and performances were largely shit. How many half time subs and comebacks were we seeing?

Was disappointed after about 3 games because I was quite impressed when we replaced wenger with a 3 time EL winner. Funnily enough the games I did enjoy were the tougher EL games, partly because I was there, partly because we won but mostly because those were the few games where we actually played well. Valencia away was arguably the best game under Unai.

Arteta improving the performances may well yet be the same manager bounce and bit more energy but for me just feels a bit different. I think his communication is a big factor and feels like he has a good understanding and gameplan, just needs time to implement it.

Like I said if results don’t pick up my positivity about him and patience with him will start to wear very thin as well.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby BS221B » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:45 pm

It is time to start Martinelli since we are without Auba. I hope he dont rely out of form Laca for the time being.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Jedi » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:46 pm

Arteta the Don

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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby ag6789 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:49 pm

The team seems more compact, hunting in packs while defending , but still old bad habits crop up. Lack of awareness. And losing the plot when pressed upfield. Will take time to set a pattern, I guess.
More worrying thing is the loss of form of Laca. We need him to score the extra goal to take us over the line. Auba alone cannot do it, and Pepe is a work in progress in PL.
I think we should buy a CM without delay. Current deep midfielders aren't good enough for the long run.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Ach » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:53 pm

Too soon for the one day closer to the end for Arteta reign post?

He's been woeful so far bar man utd. Pretty much how we all expected it to be.

But it is what it is. With auba out for 3 games, wouldn't be surprised if we are out of the cup and closer to relegation places. He's the only one who scores.

New players needed
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Godlop » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:26 pm

I'm glad the Arteta appointment revealed who on this forum understands football and who doesn't
If you don't see the massive improvements Arteta has already bought to this club despite a huge amount of injuries and inheriting a squad that lacks fitness, believe and quality you are one dumb human.

Today was a poor performance and there will be more of this later in the season.
Learn to deal with it and trust the process.
You should aim your unhappiness at the board who once again seem to refuse to back our manager properly.

Anyway if you don't support Arteta please do the rest of us a favour and f**k off.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby theHotHead » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:37 pm

We look better under Arteta than we ever did under Emery and the man has been in charge for 2 minutes!!
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Tony Adams » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:53 pm

Godlop wrote:I'm glad the Arteta appointment revealed who on this forum understands football and who doesn't
If you don't see the massive improvements Arteta has already bought to this club despite a huge amount of injuries and inheriting a squad that lacks fitness, believe and quality you are one dumb human.

Today was a poor performance and there will be more of this later in the season.
Learn to deal with it and trust the process.
You should aim your unhappiness at the board who once again seem to refuse to back our manager properly.

Anyway if you don't support Arteta please do the rest of us a favour and f**k off.
Name me three 'massive' improvements.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby Dejan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:01 pm

Tony Adams wrote:
Godlop wrote:I'm glad the Arteta appointment revealed who on this forum understands football and who doesn't
If you don't see the massive improvements Arteta has already bought to this club despite a huge amount of injuries and inheriting a squad that lacks fitness, believe and quality you are one dumb human.

Today was a poor performance and there will be more of this later in the season.
Learn to deal with it and trust the process.
You should aim your unhappiness at the board who once again seem to refuse to back our manager properly.

Anyway if you don't support Arteta please do the rest of us a favour and f**k off.
Name me three 'massive' improvements.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, Arsenal Head Coach

Postby PairyGrows » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:28 pm

Arteta isn't a miracle worker, which means he's unfortunately not going to succeed at Arsenal. Considering our two top strikers are both set to leave in the summer and that we're in worse financial shape than ever since moving to the Emirates, our squad will be in bad shape very soon, and the much-needed overhaul will never happen.
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