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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue May 14, 2024 7:10 pm

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alexis2015finalgoal wrote:He has to hope Spurs dont lose to City and then beat Everton to keep his job.

A better manager with more experience would push us over the line. Considering we already have many good players in our side.

Lots of our players are in their early to mid-20s, and a few are in their late 20s like Trossard and Raya (I count him as our player as it's obvious we'll pay Brentford the fee to keep him as ours). We can either hope Arteta "comes good" or get a manager who won't learn on the job and will put into place what he's learnt on the job.

If KSE has sense and balls, they'd do this:

- Sound out Conte
- Get to Ancelotti's agent and see if he'd be willing to leave Real Madrid, even though they're the world's biggest club, La Liga champions and possibly 15 times CL winners very soon. Worst he can say is "no". Though he might want to try himself in the PL again, since Everton was a bad fit and we have more resources and are a bigger club overall. RM change their managers at will, and even if they win big stuff. Look at how they sacked Hunckyes after he won their first CL since the Puskas/di Stefano days.
- Sound out Inzaghi
- Get in touch with Tuchel's agent
- Sound out Simeone

All of these managers have won leagues before, and don't need to "learn on the job still".

Tuchel is shit !


he's won trophies. Is he elite, as in Pep or Ancelotti levels? Possibly not. Doesn't matter. Most competent managers are not at their level. Emery is competent but not elite. Same with Brendan Rodgers, Simeone, or Inzaghi.

Oh leave off!! He won the German Cup with Dortmund, he won the league with PSG - any one of us could do the same. He won some cups at Chelsea but was shit in the league, he won the Bundesliga with Bayern - again, any one of us could do the same!


He won the CL at Chelsea which is something we haven't won. Emery was good enough for us to hire off winning Ligue 1. what's the difference? I said he's not elite, but he's still good. he's better equipped thanthe manager you love who is still a baby compared to many other managers in the game.

You should realise Pep has won the Bundesliga. So by your own logic, Guardiola is rubbish. So did Ancelotti. You haven't really made a point.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Tue May 14, 2024 7:15 pm

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TedLasso wrote:Imagine firing a manager after he records the club's record point total. No manager is walking into that kind of environment, especially when a handful of stars will be looking for the exit. It would be a devastating blow to the club which is why it's only being considered by Spud fans.

Though I suppose we all are today.

Dear God.

I suggest you have a history lesson

But ignoring the hilarious mistake, we can look at it another way. Maybe arteta has taken us as far as he can and we still probably won't win the title. 89* points is a great total and unlikely to bettered so to win the title in following seasons, we have to expect man City to get a bit shit.

They regularly get 90+ unless they've won the title with games to spare like last season and don't give a shit last few games.

Can you see us getting 90+ regularly under Arteta?


If Arteta's crime is that he is not Pep, then we will never find a manager to replace him. Might as well keep the guy who has twice put up 25+ win seasons and built a team that can and has beaten Pep head to head. I can definitely see us getting to 90+ considering we keep getting better every single year.

Keep crying though :rofll:

Arteta's crime which you seem to be happy with is he can't get us over the line
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby TedLasso » Tue May 14, 2024 7:24 pm

I'm happy with winning 25+ games every season, pushing our points total higher year over year, while I get to drink a pint and watch Saka, Rice, Odegaard, Saliba, and Ben White every week.

All you do is whine like a spoiled toddler. But hey, whatever makes you happy, right?
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Tue May 14, 2024 7:25 pm

Like I said more than happy to be a nearly man

You stay with that

Arsenal fans want to win
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby TedLasso » Tue May 14, 2024 7:27 pm

Funny because only one of us is even talking about the wins. All you have is Trophy Envy.

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Tue May 14, 2024 7:30 pm

Hilarious. Out come the usual BS you spew when caught out

Same old

Good luck to your boys tonight
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Rockape » Tue May 14, 2024 7:32 pm

This thread has gone from being a bit silly, to utterly ridiculous! Ach amongst others, trying to save face with quite stupid comments!
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Tue May 14, 2024 7:33 pm

Rockape wrote:This thread has gone from being a bit silly, to utterly ridiculous! Ach amongst others, trying to save face with quite stupid comments!

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Rockape » Tue May 14, 2024 7:36 pm

Shouldn’t you be working Ach?
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Tue May 14, 2024 7:37 pm

Rockape wrote:Shouldn’t you be working Ach?

Nothing going on. Bored. Need 9pm to get here ASAP
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby TedLasso » Tue May 14, 2024 7:42 pm

Ach wrote:Hilarious. Out come the usual BS you spew when caught out

Same old

Good luck to your boys tonight


Arsenal aren't playing tonight but I do hope your beloved Spuds get a point, would go a long way towards helping my club lift one of those trophies you're desperate for.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue May 14, 2024 9:13 pm

TedLasso wrote:I'm happy with winning 25+ games every season, pushing our points total higher year over year, while I get to drink a pint and watch Saka, Rice, Odegaard, Saliba, and Ben White every week.

All you do is whine like a spoiled toddler. But hey, whatever makes you happy, right?


Points total is bs since it doesn't equate to a trophy.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby TedLasso » Tue May 14, 2024 9:21 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
TedLasso wrote:I'm happy with winning 25+ games every season, pushing our points total higher year over year, while I get to drink a pint and watch Saka, Rice, Odegaard, Saliba, and Ben White every week.

All you do is whine like a spoiled toddler. But hey, whatever makes you happy, right?


Points total is bs since it doesn't equate to a trophy.


How do they determine who gets the PL trophy at the end of the season?
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Tue May 14, 2024 9:43 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:He has to hope Spurs dont lose to City and then beat Everton to keep his job.

A better manager with more experience would push us over the line. Considering we already have many good players in our side.

Lots of our players are in their early to mid-20s, and a few are in their late 20s like Trossard and Raya (I count him as our player as it's obvious we'll pay Brentford the fee to keep him as ours). We can either hope Arteta "comes good" or get a manager who won't learn on the job and will put into place what he's learnt on the job.

If KSE has sense and balls, they'd do this:

- Sound out Conte
- Get to Ancelotti's agent and see if he'd be willing to leave Real Madrid, even though they're the world's biggest club, La Liga champions and possibly 15 times CL winners very soon. Worst he can say is "no". Though he might want to try himself in the PL again, since Everton was a bad fit and we have more resources and are a bigger club overall. RM change their managers at will, and even if they win big stuff. Look at how they sacked Hunckyes after he won their first CL since the Puskas/di Stefano days.
- Sound out Inzaghi
- Get in touch with Tuchel's agent
- Sound out Simeone

All of these managers have won leagues before, and don't need to "learn on the job still".

Tuchel is shit !


he's won trophies. Is he elite, as in Pep or Ancelotti levels? Possibly not. Doesn't matter. Most competent managers are not at their level. Emery is competent but not elite. Same with Brendan Rodgers, Simeone, or Inzaghi.

Oh leave off!! He won the German Cup with Dortmund, he won the league with PSG - any one of us could do the same. He won some cups at Chelsea but was shit in the league, he won the Bundesliga with Bayern - again, any one of us could do the same!


He won the CL at Chelsea which is something we haven't won. Emery was good enough for us to hire off winning Ligue 1. what's the difference? I said he's not elite, but he's still good. he's better equipped thanthe manager you love who is still a baby compared to many other managers in the game.

You should realise Pep has won the Bundesliga. So by your own logic, Guardiola is rubbish. So did Ancelotti. You haven't really made a point.

Di Matteo won the CL at Chelsea - not a great feat when you have a team of top players at the club.

Emery is elite, he was elite when we hired him, to win 3 Europa League titles with Sevilla is fantastic. He wasn't given time at Arsenal, fair enough, that doesn't make him a bad manager, just wasn't a good fit.

Anyone and his dog can win the Bundesliga with Bayern FFS, come on dude. What gave Ancelotti his stripes were the CL wins with AC Milan, he then followed it up with his performances at Real. Ok, I have used the argument that Ancelotti only manages the biggest/richest teams in the respective leagues so its no wonder he wins titles, same with Pep. The difference between Pep and Ancelotti is Pep takes that top team and has them like they are on steroids, Ancelotti can't do that, thats why I rate Pep as the best of the best.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Tue May 14, 2024 9:46 pm

TedLasso wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
TedLasso wrote:I'm happy with winning 25+ games every season, pushing our points total higher year over year, while I get to drink a pint and watch Saka, Rice, Odegaard, Saliba, and Ben White every week.

All you do is whine like a spoiled toddler. But hey, whatever makes you happy, right?


Points total is bs since it doesn't equate to a trophy.


How do they determine who gets the PL trophy at the end of the season?

LOL !!

I can't believe he said that ! Come on Alexis, how do you expect to be taken seriously posting stuff like that !!
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