Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

[ag6789]

23-24: 28- highest number of league games have ever won ; w/ o the likes of Henry, Wright, RVP, Adebayor and Auba.
22-23: 26- 2nd highest number of league games we've ever won along w/ '02 and '04 w/ o great strikers.
When you have specialist strikers , they become the focus and effectiveness of other forwards and attacking players fall. You'll get proportionately the same production w/ a great striker or w/ o one,replaced by other prolific forwards ( wingers, number 10 ,etc).
Arsenal won 97-98 league title by sharing goals; Bergkamp got 16, Wright got 10 , and bunch of others ( Parlour, etc) contributed handsomely.

[DiamondGooner]

Apparently we're looking at Zubimendi again.....Isak or CF should be our top priority in January.

We need to act like a big club and take use it for momentum.

[swipe right]

Apparently we're looking at Zubimendi again.....Isak or CF should be our top priority in January.

We need to act like a big club and take use it for momentum.

No one is selling us a prolific goal scorer in Jan. We are now squarely in a top four fight.

[Angelito]

23-24: 28- highest number of league games have ever won ; w/ o the likes of Henry, Wright, RVP, Adebayor and Auba.
22-23: 26- 2nd highest number of league games we've ever won along w/ '02 and '04 w/ o great strikers.
When you have specialist strikers , they become the focus and effectiveness of other forwards and attacking players fall. You'll get proportionately the same production w/ a great striker or w/ o one,replaced by other prolific forwards ( wingers, number 10 ,etc).
Arsenal won 97-98 league title by sharing goals; Bergkamp got 16, Wright got 10 , and bunch of others ( Parlour, etc) contributed handsomely.

Now compare trophies won?

Exactly.

[ag6789]

We are talking about effectiveness of strikers. We've won 5 league titles since 1988 ( not going back too far), so out 36 seasons , top strikers have delivered basically 4 times ( 97-98, top scorer was not a striker) and another 29 times they've come a cropper ( not considering 22-23 and 23-24, no decent striker in the squad).
Twice Henry, Once Wright and once Alan Smith has gotten us over the line.
Much ado about nothing.
Liverpool, with all their attacking riches, has Salah, basically a winger, who has won them the only title in 30 yrs. He has also kept them in contention for 5-6 seasons, not their strikers.
Messi, a midfielder did it for years for Barca, again, not a striker.
In modern football, you need competent goal hunters all over the pitch, not just the striker. Only then you succeed, basically because you become more unpredictable to the opposition. They wouldn't know where to focus to stop you.
Now football is a team game, so, to succeed, all parts need to function in harmony. If you've 6-7 injuries to key players, and another couple ( Saka, White, carrying niggles) how will you perform at 90% ( not to speak of 100)?
It is like an orchestra; if some the strings aren't tied properly, there'll be cacophony.
If I remember correctly, Pool had tremendous injury issues recently ( a couple of seasons ago) and came 5th.
Unforeseeable events ( injuries and Red Cards) will slow you down ; but still 70% of the season is ahead of us so don't see any reason for wholesale doom and gloom ( but none can stop all out moaning; an intrinsic characteristic for some).

[UFGN]

We are talking about effectiveness of strikers. We've won 5 league titles since 1988 ( not going back too far), so out 36 seasons , top strikers have delivered basically 4 times ( 97-98, top scorer was not a striker) and another 29 times they've come a cropper ( not considering 22-23 and 23-24, no decent striker in the squad).
Twice Henry, Once Wright and once Alan Smith has gotten us over the line.
Much ado about nothing.
Liverpool, with all their attacking riches, has Salah, basically a winger, who has won them the only title in 30 yrs. He has also kept them in contention for 5-6 seasons, not their strikers.
Messi, a midfielder did it for years for Barca, again, not a striker.
In modern football, you need competent goal hunters all over the pitch, not just the striker. Only then you succeed, basically because you become more unpredictable to the opposition. They wouldn't know where to focus to stop you.
Now football is a team game, so, to succeed, all parts need to function in harmony. If you've 6-7 injuries to key players, and another couple ( Saka, White, carrying niggles) how will you perform at 90% ( not to speak of 100)?
It is like an orchestra; if some the strings aren't tied properly, there'll be cacophony.
If I remember correctly, Pool had tremendous injury issues recently ( a couple of seasons ago) and came 5th.
Unforeseeable events ( injuries and Red Cards) will slow you down ; but still 70% of the season is ahead of us so don't see any reason for wholesale doom and gloom ( but none can stop all out moaning; an intrinsic characteristic for some).

Absolutely nobody gives a toss about anything you say because you couldn’t give a shit about winning trophies, and continually chat about irrelevancies and excuses.

[MathyGooner]

We are talking about effectiveness of strikers. We've won 5 league titles since 1988 ( not going back too far), so out 36 seasons , top strikers have delivered basically 4 times ( 97-98, top scorer was not a striker) and another 29 times they've come a cropper ( not considering 22-23 and 23-24, no decent striker in the squad).
Twice Henry, Once Wright and once Alan Smith has gotten us over the line.
Much ado about nothing.
Liverpool, with all their attacking riches, has Salah, basically a winger, who has won them the only title in 30 yrs. He has also kept them in contention for 5-6 seasons, not their strikers.
Messi, a midfielder did it for years for Barca, again, not a striker.
In modern football, you need competent goal hunters all over the pitch, not just the striker. Only then you succeed, basically because you become more unpredictable to the opposition. They wouldn't know where to focus to stop you.
Now football is a team game, so, to succeed, all parts need to function in harmony. If you've 6-7 injuries to key players, and another couple ( Saka, White, carrying niggles) how will you perform at 90% ( not to speak of 100)?
It is like an orchestra; if some the strings aren't tied properly, there'll be cacophony.
If I remember correctly, Pool had tremendous injury issues recently ( a couple of seasons ago) and came 5th.
Unforeseeable events ( injuries and Red Cards) will slow you down ; but still 70% of the season is ahead of us so don't see any reason for wholesale doom and gloom ( but none can stop all out moaning; an intrinsic characteristic for some).

I don't care about where the player in question plays, that's just a technicality. We just need players who are lethal. You mention Salah, that is a perfect example. When Liverpool were winning major trophies he contributed goals at the rate of a top striker, doesn't matter that he was a winger.

[MathyGooner]

Apparently we're looking at Zubimendi again.....Isak or CF should be our top priority in January.

We need to act like a big club and take use it for momentum.

Why the f**k do we need ANOTHER DM??? Not even a creative CM or something which at least makes some sense. f***ing hell.....

[UFGN]

We're not going to win the league yet again

We're going backwards

"yEaH BuT l00k aT tHe5e StatS I ShAT oUT mY aRSe"

[Highbury Hillbilly]

We're not going to win the league yet again

We're going backwards

"yEaH BuT l00k aT tHe5e StatS I ShAT oUT mY aRSe"

Understand AG will revise his position if we fall out of the Community Shield places 2 years running.

[theHotHead]

23-24: 28- highest number of league games have ever won ; w/ o the likes of Henry, Wright, RVP, Adebayor and Auba.
22-23: 26- 2nd highest number of league games we've ever won along w/ '02 and '04 w/ o great strikers.
When you have specialist strikers , they become the focus and effectiveness of other forwards and attacking players fall. You'll get proportionately the same production w/ a great striker or w/ o one,replaced by other prolific forwards ( wingers, number 10 ,etc).
Arsenal won 97-98 league title by sharing goals; Bergkamp got 16, Wright got 10 , and bunch of others ( Parlour, etc) contributed handsomely.

Now compare trophies won?

Exactly.

Angelito is spot on. I don't know why you and Jay are obsessed with the number of goals we are scoring, we broke goal scoring records in back to back seasons but won f**k all, how can you explain it ?!!

I can explain it, its because we didn't score goals WHEN IT MATTERED, you automatically improve your chances of scoring when it matters when you have a lethal striker in the team.

We scored 73 goals in our 1988/89 league triumph, and 74 in 1990/91. Scoring when it matters is more important.

[VCC]

Technically you can win the league undefeated with 38 goals

[UFGN]

Technically you can win the league undefeated with 38 goals

You could also go undefeated and score in every game and still get relegated. 38 draws

[VCC]

Technically you can win the league undefeated with 38 goals

You could also go undefeated and score in every game and still get relegated. 38 draws

Stats peeps would love that they would call it a success

[UFGN]

Technically you can win the league undefeated with 38 goals

You could also go undefeated and score in every game and still get relegated. 38 draws

Stats peeps would love that they would call it a success

Could only possibly happen to Spurs

They are capable of it.