Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Slick » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:52 am

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jayramfootball wrote:Arteta made the mistake of trying to work with the players that were there.
The only way out of this is to totally and quickly overhaul the entire squad and cut out the cultural cancer that exists.

I agree. I expected to see wholesale changes by now but it’s been way too slow of a process.


Because Kroenke won't back a manager until that manager proves he's not going to waste his money.

Arteta is 14th, you think Kroenke is going to lavish cash on him? we're not a "buy your way out of trouble" club, Kroenke bought us to be self sustainable.

That's why we have so much trash in the squad, they're on cushty contracts and are running them down.

I am very familiar with $tan Kroenke. The worst thing to happen to this club was when that man started buying in. He doesn’t give two shits. His heart isn’t in this thing. He is a black cloud hanging over the club.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Zenith » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:19 am

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:47 am

When we were squeaking out one nils against poor opposition, many of us said the luck would end. Just like it did with Emery. You can’t grind your way out of 38 games. Given his pedigree, would’ve assumed Arteta knew that. If he was going to alienate Ozil then getting a couple of creative midfielders in the summer should have been priority one. If it came down to Partey or Auroar then Auroar would’ve been the right solution.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby VCC » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:21 am

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swipe right wrote:Poch in the dugout and Wenger in the boardroom. Fcking do it Kroenke.


#TheOnlyWay

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:04 am

VCC wrote:
Angelito wrote:
swipe right wrote:Poch in the dugout and Wenger in the boardroom. Fcking do it Kroenke.


#TheOnlyWay

Dont want AW near anything

You’d rather Josh and Vinai calling the shots in the boardroom?
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby elkanofan » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:09 am

Arteta is in trouble. Serious trouble but not as much trouble as our club excecutives who if they didn't look like f***ing imbeciles before they certainly do now with the blame just as much if more on them for us being in this position.

Wenger's socialist wage structure has failed so badly it has become the defining problem with our club, the true cancer which has rotted us away from the top of the league into the abyss of now possible midtable mediocrity. The team full of too many bang average, unmotivated, comfortable players who already long proven in flattering to deceive.

We have a good but rookie manager who is failing to perform to our expected level, cannot work out a gameplan to play consistent, front foot, possession based attacking football and is sapping confidence out of the players with no guarantee he can turn things round. But however once again in a season we must show confidence in redefining ourselves along with Europe's elite, instead we have once again taken 2 steps backwards from the level before and the sludge which is our club right now continues to slide further down the table into now expected mediocrity. Nobody is even surprised anymore at our average level, its to be expected.

The saddest thing is I'm not annoyed, upset it concerned that much. I love my club and always will, but i said after we signed Emery to replace Wenger, if Emery doesn't work out we are in serious trouble and due to how Emery failed towards the end of his reign has opened up a now revolving door of 'coaches' to one day, one season in the next God knows how long until we can compete with the leagues elite again.

While as you could tell with Emery, I'm not going to call for Arteta's head so quick, I will hope he can turn things round, I will say thay I cannot see it happening whatsoever which leaves us screwed until January at the earliest.

Every game now with or without Arteta till January is going to be a battle in the league.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Phil71 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:14 am

You can bet they'll be enforcing silent compliance when they start letting fans back in.

Anyone shouting criticism will be ejected.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:35 am

Under Wenger there was no accountability and no organisation. Players like Ozil came here for the freedom to play and enjoy their football. That led to a lack of desire to win and to complacency.

When Emery came in he had a tough job to remove that. His disciplinarian style which had caused problems at PSG was what was needed, but players like Ozil just sat tight and waited for run of bad results. A section of the fans saw him as a defensive manager, an anti-Wenger and got on the manager's back. This was the chance for the Ozil types to down tools and get rid of him.

It seems the same thing has happened with Arteta. Part of me wants to wait til the summer when most of the Ozil types' contracts are up and see if Arteta can move them on. I've said before, next summer is when the club is properly de-Wengered. Until then I think downing tools after a bad run of results will continue whoever is in charge.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Nuggets » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:16 am

*Mikel Arteta admits ‘something is missing’ at Arsenal*
Yup he is right, a decent fecking manager.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:38 am

When are people going to understand, this is not about the players and it never has been. Its about stupid arrogant managers seemingly incapable of using their brains!

Shit Wenger - its the players they said when we were conceding goals left right and centre, Wenger has not been allowed to spend money. I said Wenger does not place any focus on defending, his tactics are too gung ho and he has not brought in a proper DM since Flamini left the first time.

Emery - its the players they said, even though Emery got a new keeper, CB and a specialist DM. Our defending became even worse than under Wenger, attack was still functioning, had a bee in his bonnet with Ozil who at least can link the midfield with the attack even if he is not creating chances. We will come back to this last point.

Ljungberg - Its the players they said, the same shit players Emery had to work with. But I said Ljungberg is making the exact same mistakes Emery did so how can he expect a different outcome??

Decent Arteta - Realised the attack was fine so left it alone including Ozil, focused on getting the team defensively better. We saw improved performances, we beat other top 6 teams and won a trophy. But but but the players are the reason we can't defend.

Shit Arteta - started the season by dropping Ozil, including other "tactical" decisions the team were defending well but could not attack for shit. That link between midfield and attack I mentioned before is gone. Now, with an even better squad than he had before due to player purchases we are conceding goals at an alarming rate AND not scoring hardly any.

Decent Arteta already proved that the players are not the reason we couldn't defend. Decent Arteta has also proved that the players are not the reason we can't attack under Shit Arteta. Its the dumb f**k manager's fault for both.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Nuggets » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:40 am

Arteta: ‘I know I will be sacked by Arsenal’
So you should be you useless tw±t
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:44 am

Tbh the more I’ve thought about it, the more I do blame the players. They are the ones who are once again spitting their dummies out and seemingly downing tools, Arteta hasn’t suddenly changed his ways albeit slightly tweaking the formation to try and attack more but the principles remain the same as they were when we won the FA cup.

What player has shown anywhere near the form this season that they did back end of last season?

Ceballos earned himself a return and yet has been complete shit.
Auba earned (debatable) himself a ridiculous contract, wanted to be a legend and yet has been complete shit with 2 goals all season.
Bellerin? Luiz? Both been awful as well
Tierney? Not been horrendous but he was doing really well last season.
Laca started off well this season but been shit since, was shit last year goals wise anyway.
Pepe always been awful but got even worse this season.

Is it really Arteta making these professionals look so bad? Is he the one telling them to take the pussy pass every single time and go backwards? I’m sure he has an influence but why have these guys continually spiralled downwards for 3-4 years bar the FA cup blip?

Lazy ass players with shit attitude all over. The only three who aren’t - Gabriel, Tierney and Saka.

You only have to look at how well Emery is doing again this year to see how spineless this lot are. It wasn’t his only issue but our players really are a bunch of unprofessional crooks imo.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:52 am

Santi wrote:Tbh the more I’ve thought about it, the more I do blame the players. They are the ones who are once again spitting their dummies out and seemingly downing tools, Arteta hasn’t suddenly changed his ways albeit slightly tweaking the formation to try and attack more but the principles remain the same as they were when we won the FA cup.

What player has shown anywhere near the form this season that they did back end of last season?

Ceballos earned himself a return and yet has been complete shit.
Auba earned (debatable) himself a ridiculous contract, wanted to be a legend and yet has been complete shit with 2 goals all season.
Bellerin? Luiz? Both been awful as well
Tierney? Not been horrendous but he was doing really well last season.
Laca started off well this season but been shit since, was shit last year goals wise anyway.
Pepe always been awful but got even worse this season.

Is it really Arteta making these professionals look so bad? Is he the one telling them to take the pussy pass every single time and go backwards? I’m sure he has an influence but why have these guys continually spiralled downwards for 3-4 years bar the FA cup blip?

Lazy ass players with shit attitude all over. The only three who aren’t - Gabriel, Tierney and Saka.

You only have to look at how well Emery is doing again this year to see how spineless this lot are. It wasn’t his only issue but our players really are a bunch of unprofessional crooks imo.


Not chopping and changing formations will help. Playing our best players in each position will do wonders too. Arteta has control over both of these
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:57 am

Phil71 wrote:You can bet they'll be enforcing silent compliance when they start letting fans back in.

Anyone shouting criticism will be ejected.

Cause our manager is a mini Mussolini. Probably exile dissenting fans to the gulag along with Ozil.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:02 am

And when he kept Auba on the left were people also not crying for him to play centrally? We’ve been wank all season and he had to try and change something...it didn’t work clearly.

Hopefully we’ll see lacabeast restored next game since he loves scoring against the Spuds anyway and get Auba back on the left.

As for playing these mysterious best players, who aren’t we playing? The only consistent performers are the 3 I listed that have the better attitude. What exactly was wrong with the lineup last night? Aside from Willian (who actually looked remotely better than usual) and maybe Xhaka for Covid Elneny then what else do we have?

They’re not playing for him anymore and that should be blamed on both parties not just the manager. However, players should be professional and want to win in spite of a manager.

Anyway I’ve messaged Auba to sort his shit out so we’ll win the league from here lads.
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