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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Angelito » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:10 pm

Massa wrote:Just come from injury remember


This. Unless it's Giroud, doesn't seem to matter!
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:47 pm

OP edited and updated as posted by me on Goonersworld Blog.

Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Fresh from watching Chelsea beating Man City in their own backyard not by parking the bus but by using an impressive tactical game i was pondering over thinking the instant impact Matic has made to the spine of Chelsea midfield. Everybody was surprised when Mourinho went in and bought a holding midfielder when the footballing circles were abuzz with bets on him going for a Striker.

Mourinho is tactically astute and knows the importance of a midfield lynchpin. Central midfield is the engine room of any team and a good lung capacity and Legs are a must have for anybody playing there. The position is extremely demanding where you have to put in up and down shifts throughout the game. Fernandinho is another player who has been the unsung hero of the City side and his absence was clearly felt against Chelsea.

The headline might sound alarming and may appear like a knee jerk reaction but Mikel Arteta’s contract expires on Jan 8, 2015. He will be 32 by the end of this season. Central defenders can carry on a tad longer at top level but Central midfield is very demanding position and Arteta seems to have lost his Zip this season. Don’t get me wrong he still is a good player, a good reader of the game with decent distribution and passing range. He is a player i admire but off late whenever the tempo of a particular game goes up he has struggled to cope. With our team built around attack our holding midfielder has to do a lot of work.

Wenger more often than not has taken footballing decisions practically rather than emotionally. His over thirty policy is something which is out in the open. Arteta is a nice guy, team and and a leader on the pitch but his legs seem to be out of sync with his brain this season. He has done well for himself and for the team in his time here but we need a solid/combative/mobile option in the middle of the park to partner the likes of Ramsey/Wilshere. With Flamini having acquitted himself well we need a top quality holding mid in the middle of the park as a starting option in the middle of the park. Flamini still has the energy, fitness levels and stamina to last 90 minutes and he can be an able deputy.

Make no mistake Arteta still has a couple of years of football left but not at the level required for a club fighting for top honors. Football squads are all about balance and our squad is more skewed towards attacking mids at the moment. Now please do not get me wrong my assessment is not based on a couple of poor performances rather on a gradual but a consistent pattern where he has struggled to play in a high tempo situation.

Lastly the way Oxlade Chamberlain has acquitted himself in the Central midfield is nothing short of impressive. He put in a near perfect performance against Tony Pulis’ well drilled team. Not only was he solid defensively winning balls with aplomb he showed impressive burst of pace to score two impressive goals. Wenger in his pregame interview mentioned that Chamaberlain’s future lies in the central midfield. I know its too early to judge him but he definitely deserves some playing time based on the spark he has shown in the middle of the park.

If you do the maths it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the fact that Arteta will be a bit part player next season. The point is- is he willing to accept that bit-part role? Will he stay with us if we do not offer him a substantial extension to his current deal? Any which way you see it i do not see him hanging around if he is not promised substantial playing time or a significant extension both of which look unlikely at this point in time.

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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:50 pm

He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo. He looked absolutely clueless chasing shadows today.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Zedie » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:51 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:52 pm

Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.


LOL yeah. I say we need to discard him in the summer.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Angelito » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:52 pm

Yeah, he was clueless today. So that alone justifies how we conceded 5 goals?

The entire team was shambolic today, no exceptions.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Massa » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:53 pm

Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.

Or, y'know, a single CM against Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho. Put any DM there and they don't stop that, that's why we needed Wilshere defensively and we didn't get that.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby GSK_AFC » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:53 pm

Massa wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.

Or, y'know, a single CM against Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho. Put any DM there and they don't stop that, that's why we needed Wilshere defensively and we didn't get that.

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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:53 pm

Angelito wrote:Yeah, he was clueless today. So that alone justifies how we conceded 5 goals?

The entire team was shambolic today, no exceptions.


Angelito did i suggest he was solely responsible. I am a huge admirer of Arteta myself but his legs are going at a rapid pelt mate.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Massa » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:54 pm

GSK_AFC wrote:
Massa wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.

Or, y'know, a single CM against Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho. Put any DM there and they don't stop that, that's why we needed Wilshere defensively and we didn't get that.

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Flamini would've used his #Grit and #Determination though remember
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:55 pm

Massa wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.

Or, y'know, a single CM against Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho. Put any DM there and they don't stop that, that's why we needed Wilshere defensively and we didn't get that.


Massa today you defending the indefensible. Arteta's legs are not coping and i am not saying it now. Look when i started this thread. There has been a clear consistent slide in his stamina/fitness/form.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Zedie » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:56 pm

Massa wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.

Or, y'know, a single CM against Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho. Put any DM there and they don't stop that, that's why we needed Wilshere defensively and we didn't get that.


Of course, but he left the defence more than exposed than a flasher today and many other games. Hes good for a chess match, less so for a horse race.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:56 pm

Zedie wrote:
Massa wrote:
Zedie wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:He was a passenger today like he is when we are under the pump or when the game is played at a high tempo.


Like a kid playing with his older brother and his mates.

Or, y'know, a single CM against Sturridge/Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho. Put any DM there and they don't stop that, that's why we needed Wilshere defensively and we didn't get that.


Of course, but he left the defence more than exposed than a flasher today and many other games. Hes good for a chess match, less so for a horse race.


Agreed.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Massa » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:00 pm

I certainly agree we need better and fitter, but I do not agree that Mathieu f***ing Flamini is a better option

Yes, he was wank, but we might aswell start a thread on all our players and ask if it is the final season for them in that case. Some performances were inexcusable, Arteta at least has the excuse that Wilshere was playing #10 instead of box-to-box.
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Re: Is this the final season of Mikel Arteta for us ?

Postby Angelito » Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:04 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:
Angelito wrote:Yeah, he was clueless today. So that alone justifies how we conceded 5 goals?

The entire team was shambolic today, no exceptions.


Angelito did i suggest he was solely responsible. I am a huge admirer of Arteta myself but his legs are going at a rapid pelt mate.


It's futile singling him out when we were poor all around. We need better than Arteta but he's still much better than Flamini. The entire team was horrific today. If you want to single out, look at the striker situation; Cazorla's performance, Wenger's tactics, Ozil's performance... They were worse than Arteta's, and let's not ignore how Wilshere left it all alone for Arteta in the middle.
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