Zenith wrote:
Nuggets wrote:gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
What logic! If Allison doesn't make stupid mistakes the last 2 games, Liverpool would be higher. If Pickford doesn't make mistakes all season, Everton would have more points. If Tottenhams defenders wouldn't make routine mistakes all the time, they'd have more points. Mistakes are part of the game, Arteta is not the only manager who's players make mistakes. Stop defending Arteta by blaming bad luck and mistakes. We are terrible by all advanced stats, regardless of mistakes.
alexafc12 wrote:Nuggets wrote:gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
What logic! If Allison doesn't make stupid mistakes the last 2 games, Liverpool would be higher. If Pickford doesn't make mistakes all season, Everton would have more points. If Tottenhams defenders wouldn't make routine mistakes all the time, they'd have more points. Mistakes are part of the game, Arteta is not the only manager who's players make mistakes. Stop defending Arteta by blaming bad luck and mistakes. We are terrible by all advanced stats, regardless of mistakes.
The difference is in games like Wolves we were dominating only for horror decisions to completely gut us.
You're right it's easy to Wenger your way out of things and put losses down to bad luck, but this season I do feel we've had a lot more horror decisions from referees / players than usual. Often times just when we're building confidence. 5 red card and 3 own goals is ridiculous.
I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it being directed at Mikel is fair but I do think some perspective is needed. As well as the above our best player has completely disappeared, our big signing is constantly injured and we've had to deal with the ongoing sagas around Ozil, Sokratis, Kola etc.
As Pep said in his presser, "what I see in the last two months every game Arsenal played is better than the opponent". Whilst I don't agree with that statement across every game for the most part it's true.
I still think we should give him until next season when he's had a full / normal pre-season and hasn't been restricted by having to offload players before signing new ones. I don't really see the benefit of changing the manager before that - especially considering the realistic options to replace him.
Ach wrote:What's Arteta said?Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta speaking to Sky Sports: "When we conceded the first goal it put us in a difficult situation. It was tough. With the formation and the players they use they are really comfortable. After that the team reacted really well, were on top of the game and created chances but we lacked the quality in those situations to score the goal.
We were on top? Created chances? What chances?
alexafc12 wrote:Nuggets wrote:gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
What logic! If Allison doesn't make stupid mistakes the last 2 games, Liverpool would be higher. If Pickford doesn't make mistakes all season, Everton would have more points. If Tottenhams defenders wouldn't make routine mistakes all the time, they'd have more points. Mistakes are part of the game, Arteta is not the only manager who's players make mistakes. Stop defending Arteta by blaming bad luck and mistakes. We are terrible by all advanced stats, regardless of mistakes.
The difference is in games like Wolves we were dominating only for horror decisions to completely gut us.
You're right it's easy to Wenger your way out of things and put losses down to bad luck, but this season I do feel we've had a lot more horror decisions from referees / players than usual. Often times just when we're building confidence. 5 red card and 3 own goals is ridiculous.
I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it being directed at Mikel is fair but I do think some perspective is needed. As well as the above our best player has completely disappeared, our big signing is constantly injured and we've had to deal with the ongoing sagas around Ozil, Sokratis, Kola etc.
As Pep said in his presser, "what I see in the last two months every game Arsenal played is better than the opponent". Whilst I don't agree with that statement across every game for the most part it's true.
I still think we should give him until next season when he's had a full / normal pre-season and hasn't been restricted by having to offload players before signing new ones. I don't really see the benefit of changing the manager before that - especially considering the realistic options to replace him.
I don’t believe it to be good enough
I don’t believe it to be worse than 17/18
I am not fudging win loss
They are facts
We are better defensively now than we were in wenger’s last 36 games as well
alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Nuggets wrote:gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
What logic! If Allison doesn't make stupid mistakes the last 2 games, Liverpool would be higher. If Pickford doesn't make mistakes all season, Everton would have more points. If Tottenhams defenders wouldn't make routine mistakes all the time, they'd have more points. Mistakes are part of the game, Arteta is not the only manager who's players make mistakes. Stop defending Arteta by blaming bad luck and mistakes. We are terrible by all advanced stats, regardless of mistakes.
The difference is in games like Wolves we were dominating only for horror decisions to completely gut us.
You're right it's easy to Wenger your way out of things and put losses down to bad luck, but this season I do feel we've had a lot more horror decisions from referees / players than usual. Often times just when we're building confidence. 5 red card and 3 own goals is ridiculous.
I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it being directed at Mikel is fair but I do think some perspective is needed. As well as the above our best player has completely disappeared, our big signing is constantly injured and we've had to deal with the ongoing sagas around Ozil, Sokratis, Kola etc.
As Pep said in his presser, "what I see in the last two months every game Arsenal played is better than the opponent". Whilst I don't agree with that statement across every game for the most part it's true.
I still think we should give him until next season when he's had a full / normal pre-season and hasn't been restricted by having to offload players before signing new ones. I don't really see the benefit of changing the manager before that - especially considering the realistic options to replace him.
If you by what other managers say about Arteta than Thierry Henry should be managing Barcelona given how highly Wenger spoke of him. You gotta take stuff other managers say with a grain of salt. They're not gonna shit on their close friend.
Santi wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Nuggets wrote:gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
What logic! If Allison doesn't make stupid mistakes the last 2 games, Liverpool would be higher. If Pickford doesn't make mistakes all season, Everton would have more points. If Tottenhams defenders wouldn't make routine mistakes all the time, they'd have more points. Mistakes are part of the game, Arteta is not the only manager who's players make mistakes. Stop defending Arteta by blaming bad luck and mistakes. We are terrible by all advanced stats, regardless of mistakes.
The difference is in games like Wolves we were dominating only for horror decisions to completely gut us.
You're right it's easy to Wenger your way out of things and put losses down to bad luck, but this season I do feel we've had a lot more horror decisions from referees / players than usual. Often times just when we're building confidence. 5 red card and 3 own goals is ridiculous.
I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it being directed at Mikel is fair but I do think some perspective is needed. As well as the above our best player has completely disappeared, our big signing is constantly injured and we've had to deal with the ongoing sagas around Ozil, Sokratis, Kola etc.
As Pep said in his presser, "what I see in the last two months every game Arsenal played is better than the opponent". Whilst I don't agree with that statement across every game for the most part it's true.
I still think we should give him until next season when he's had a full / normal pre-season and hasn't been restricted by having to offload players before signing new ones. I don't really see the benefit of changing the manager before that - especially considering the realistic options to replace him.
Exactly. The momentum bit is the key for me, everytime we get anything going we either come up against a stonker like man city or come up against a c*** ref.
Özim wrote:Santi wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Nuggets wrote:gamechannel wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Özim wrote:alexafc12 wrote:Needs more time. This summer is key. Lots of deadwood finally gone. Time to bring in some winners.
To think, some people on here have the AUDACITY to call for Don Mikel's head after advising us to appoint the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder.
This guy is a nothing manager, he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, doesn’t deserve another summer, we’d just be wasting another season.
How anyone can believe in this overhyped nobody is beyond me, he’s shows he’s totally clueless.
We're 6 points off Liverpool and Everton and 2 off Spurs.
Take away the FA horror shows (Wolves springs to mind) and individual brain farts (back to back red cards) and we'd be challenging for 4th.
He's made several mistakes but he's also got a lot right. I don't see who we can realistically get that would guarantee us better.
It's definitely not the likes of Jose, Nuno or Chris Wilder that some on here were calling for in the summer. Reminds me of the horror days when those same posters told us not getting Owen Coyle or Martinez 'would haunt us forever'.
What logic! If Allison doesn't make stupid mistakes the last 2 games, Liverpool would be higher. If Pickford doesn't make mistakes all season, Everton would have more points. If Tottenhams defenders wouldn't make routine mistakes all the time, they'd have more points. Mistakes are part of the game, Arteta is not the only manager who's players make mistakes. Stop defending Arteta by blaming bad luck and mistakes. We are terrible by all advanced stats, regardless of mistakes.
The difference is in games like Wolves we were dominating only for horror decisions to completely gut us.
You're right it's easy to Wenger your way out of things and put losses down to bad luck, but this season I do feel we've had a lot more horror decisions from referees / players than usual. Often times just when we're building confidence. 5 red card and 3 own goals is ridiculous.
I'm all for criticism where it's due and a lot of it being directed at Mikel is fair but I do think some perspective is needed. As well as the above our best player has completely disappeared, our big signing is constantly injured and we've had to deal with the ongoing sagas around Ozil, Sokratis, Kola etc.
As Pep said in his presser, "what I see in the last two months every game Arsenal played is better than the opponent". Whilst I don't agree with that statement across every game for the most part it's true.
I still think we should give him until next season when he's had a full / normal pre-season and hasn't been restricted by having to offload players before signing new ones. I don't really see the benefit of changing the manager before that - especially considering the realistic options to replace him.
Exactly. The momentum bit is the key for me, everytime we get anything going we either come up against a stonker like man city or come up against a c*** ref.
Absolute rubbish sorry, that’s just an excuse, all season we’ve been rubbish, we never had this when we were winning titles, simply because winners make things happen whilst losers make excuses as to why it hasn’t and why you’ve been hard done by.
The reason these things happen and we lose is because the manager is doing a poor job, bad decisions are part of the game and happens to everyone, we’ve had plenty of times to recover and comeback as we just don’t because Arteta isn’t good enough.
Tired of people playing the victim card.
Santi wrote:tired of u moaning about arteta as well buddy but hey
Özim wrote:Santi wrote:tired of u moaning about arteta as well buddy but hey
Not my fault he’s incompetent and can’t do better than midtable despite all that he has at his disposal.