jayramfootball wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:jayramfootball wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:JayRam is talking himself right into another "Villarreal is a pub team and we'll beat them easy" scenario.
This won't end well if by Christmas we're outside of the top 4 again on our way to another slide.
You have your "No Europe" so I expect to go from 8th to 4th place season finish absolute minimum.
Anything like 6th or 7th is another abject failure, with no Europe to distract us by daring us to be a proper successfull club, the minimum requirement will be to jump up the Premier league, and not by just 1 -2 places but 3-5 places minimum.
........... I mean by not being in Europe, what else is there to do?
Sorry but you are talking gibberish.
Villareal are a poor side. We lost to a poor side that we should have beaten. So what? Happens.
I expect us to be outside the top 4 at Christmas. Top 6 is progress. I would expect us to be at least in touching distance of top 4 though.
Not said any more than that, so I am not sure what you are referring to when you say 'this won't end well'? What won't end well?
5th/6th and a chance of top4. That is what I have said.
Moving up a couple of places and being closer to top 4 till the end of the season will be easier for us now that we don;t have to play on Thursday nights.
Why are you setting up silly confrontation?
Is everything a pissing contest with you?
If you think 6th is the standard then you should just shut up now.
If you think aiming for 6th place when we have no Europe, no planes to get on (as you put it), is even near acceptable then there is no discussion to be had.
Your standards have been dumbed down to that of a Tottenham or Aston Villa fan, we are still Arsenal last time I checked, the only thing that's changed is our manager is shite, why should we be expecting a result that a lesser club would expect?
PS - Poor sides don't beat AFC and Man Utd to win a European final, they are a mediocre side if not decent, they are not "poor".
5th/6th is a good season because of where we are as a club.
If we finish top 4, its a really great season. Not impossible, but I think we'll need some luck to do that.
5th/6th is not where we need to stay, we need to push on from there over the next few seasons.
How about 15 mins from sixth?