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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Goonerred » Thu May 06, 2021 5:09 pm

Power n Glory wrote:
Angelito wrote:Weren't Chelsea a point ahead of us when Lampard was sacked? They're now in the UCL final, in the FA Cup final, and are 4th in the league.

The issue with the Kroenkes is that they're almost afraid of hiring top quality managers. They don't want strong personalities. That's why they opted for yes-men over Conte, Tuchel, Allegri, or Pochettino. Even now, they're pumping PR-driven articles in favor of Arteta and the current status quo at Arsenal.

They were the engineers behind our downfall from UCL football because they decided to back Gazidis in his cold war with Wenger. They essentially sacrificed two of Wenger's final season just to kick him out of the club.

If they were as strategic and as ruthless, they'd have fired Wenger after 15/16 or wouldn't have offered Wenger that final contract at the end of 16/17.

You can't have it both ways. You can't expect devoted subservience from top professionals. You also can't expect to succeed by simply hiring mediocre yes-men.

The same set of fans that wanted Wenger out because top-4 was boring and unambitious, are now backing Arteta and defending Arsenal's mid-table glory.

Arsenal hierarchy is a master of manufacturing consent. Compare the media scrutiny when Wenger was around to what it is now. There's absolutely no pressure on Arteta to deliver. He's enjoying the most lucrative internship in the history of internships.

Gary Neville has started talking about Arsenal like we're Spurs. He'd never have dared when Wenger was around. Liverpool, ManU, and Arsenal are three stalwarts of the English game. Yet, the conversation has swiftly moved to Liverpool and ManU, like they're the Barca and Real.

Even amongst the fanbase, fans who question Arteta are labelled as "reactive, short-sighted," fans. How the Arsenal PR mechanism has managed to convince Arsenal fans that 10th isn't an utter disaster—should be included in the curriculum of public relations at colleges.

Masterful, I have to admit.

It's a shame that we've fallen so far. It's a bigger shame that Arsenal honchos are resorting to PR campaigns instead of actually doing anything about it.


Abramovich is brutal and wouldn't even spare Lampard. I thought Chelsea were going for a token appointment and Abramovich had plans of cutting back on spending with Lampard being the perfect candidate to keep the fans quiet. I was wrong.

I'm really hoping the Kroenke's are having a Goldilocks moment. A little too conservative and safe with the Emery appointment and now too much of a risk with Arteta. Hopefully they get it right with the next appointment. If it's another disastrous appointment we may find ourselves stuck as a midtable team for a few more years.


Or worse. We will only be able to attract really mediocre players if we languish in mid-table.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu May 06, 2021 5:15 pm

Angelito wrote:
The same set of fans that wanted Wenger out because top-4 was boring and unambitious, are now backing Arteta and defending Arsenal's mid-table glory.


Dude, stop it. Wenger couldn't give us Top 4 anymore.

He didn't leave when he ended 4th. He got 5th in 16/17 and 6th in 17/18 with a decade-low 63 points. He was 68yo and competing with Poch, Pep, Klopp, Conte and Mourinho, all 15-20 years younger than him.

The fact that he took a desk job at UEFA instead of coaching NT means he's retired. He needed a well-deserved break from Arsenal to come to that realization.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Nuggets » Thu May 06, 2021 5:32 pm

Mikel Arteta has been assured that his future is safe at the club, regardless of whether Arsenal progress to the Europa League final or not.
And that's why this club is a fooking joke at the minute.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Power n Glory » Thu May 06, 2021 5:46 pm

Goonerred wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
Angelito wrote:Weren't Chelsea a point ahead of us when Lampard was sacked? They're now in the UCL final, in the FA Cup final, and are 4th in the league.

The issue with the Kroenkes is that they're almost afraid of hiring top quality managers. They don't want strong personalities. That's why they opted for yes-men over Conte, Tuchel, Allegri, or Pochettino. Even now, they're pumping PR-driven articles in favor of Arteta and the current status quo at Arsenal.

They were the engineers behind our downfall from UCL football because they decided to back Gazidis in his cold war with Wenger. They essentially sacrificed two of Wenger's final season just to kick him out of the club.

If they were as strategic and as ruthless, they'd have fired Wenger after 15/16 or wouldn't have offered Wenger that final contract at the end of 16/17.

You can't have it both ways. You can't expect devoted subservience from top professionals. You also can't expect to succeed by simply hiring mediocre yes-men.

The same set of fans that wanted Wenger out because top-4 was boring and unambitious, are now backing Arteta and defending Arsenal's mid-table glory.

Arsenal hierarchy is a master of manufacturing consent. Compare the media scrutiny when Wenger was around to what it is now. There's absolutely no pressure on Arteta to deliver. He's enjoying the most lucrative internship in the history of internships.

Gary Neville has started talking about Arsenal like we're Spurs. He'd never have dared when Wenger was around. Liverpool, ManU, and Arsenal are three stalwarts of the English game. Yet, the conversation has swiftly moved to Liverpool and ManU, like they're the Barca and Real.

Even amongst the fanbase, fans who question Arteta are labelled as "reactive, short-sighted," fans. How the Arsenal PR mechanism has managed to convince Arsenal fans that 10th isn't an utter disaster—should be included in the curriculum of public relations at colleges.

Masterful, I have to admit.

It's a shame that we've fallen so far. It's a bigger shame that Arsenal honchos are resorting to PR campaigns instead of actually doing anything about it.


Abramovich is brutal and wouldn't even spare Lampard. I thought Chelsea were going for a token appointment and Abramovich had plans of cutting back on spending with Lampard being the perfect candidate to keep the fans quiet. I was wrong.

I'm really hoping the Kroenke's are having a Goldilocks moment. A little too conservative and safe with the Emery appointment and now too much of a risk with Arteta. Hopefully they get it right with the next appointment. If it's another disastrous appointment we may find ourselves stuck as a midtable team for a few more years.


Or worse. We will only be able to attract really mediocre players if we languish in mid-table.


Yep. It's the downgrade. Top teams with money to burn can afford to take these chances and especially when they're not slow on the trigger. We're in a bit of tricky situation because we don’t have money to burn which means a slower recovery. It's been a slow decline so far.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby VCC » Thu May 06, 2021 7:53 pm

No money !!!!
We were promised to eat at the top table we are stuck with the bottom feeders at the crusty crab
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Jedi » Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Dejan » Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm

Worst manager we ever had
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby alexafc12 » Thu May 06, 2021 8:56 pm

Disgusting tactics again.

What more can you say ?

Bunch of cowards.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu May 06, 2021 8:58 pm

Sack him now, give the new guy the summer to sort it out. That's what happens when you appoint someone who has never been a manager. Totally out of his depth.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby DiamondGooner » Thu May 06, 2021 8:59 pm

.............it begins.

Every loss now will hurt twice as much.

Next season destroyed, first time no European football.

Too good for this competition apparently.

Bring on the Super league, can't grt relegated from that one
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby VCC » Thu May 06, 2021 8:59 pm

Can't give half a game away every week in any sport,
We ain't that good you mug Arteta
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Paddy » Thu May 06, 2021 9:00 pm

alexafc12 wrote:Disgusting tactics again.

What more can you say ?

Bunch of cowards.


we lost the tie in the first leg due to his awful decision making

out of his depth.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Thu May 06, 2021 9:00 pm

His hair will be missed
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