Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

[jayramfootball]

In Jesus' best goal scoring chance season for us he had a shot conversion rate of 14% in the league.

In Havertz last 2 seasons for us he has had shot conversion rates of 17% this season and 18% last season.

In his last season for Spurs Harry Kane had a shot conversion rate of 23%

In Nketiah's best season for us (2021/22 when he scored 5 league goals in 21 appearances) his shot conversion rate was 17%

Comparisons? Salah's shot conversion rate was 22% this season Haaland this season is 20%, last season he was 22%, season before he was 29% !!!

I think I have made my point conclusively. Jesus and Havertz' don't score enough from their chances. We need a striker whose conversion rate is 20% minimum.

Shot conversion is skewed a lot by the quality of the chance.
Put it this way. If you shoot from range a lot your conversion will be lower.
Shot conversion numbers also include penalties by the way. Another skew. Some players take them, some don’t.

Chris Woods shot conversion rate this year is 31%.
Is he the answer then?

Should Liverpool trade in Salah for him, City trade in Haaland to try to get him? His shot conversion is way better than both. They win more games with Chris Woods by your logic because he’d be better in the vital moments.

Nice try. The problem with your example though is we have enough data on Chris Wood. He does have very good conversion rates, problem is, his numbers are poor, he doesnt score enough. This season is an outlier rather than the norm.

His limited ability on the ball as well prevent him from ever being a target of the big clubs

So now we're adding ability on the ball to equation and we now also need to look at more seasons.
In truth there are several more factors that make up a good fit for any player in any team.
The use of shot conversion is not a metric to be used singularly because of the reasons I said - it depends on which type of shots you have.
If an average player has 20 shots all season and 10 of them were penalties, and he missed the other 10 chances and missed 2 of the pens also - he'd have a conversion rate of 40%.

Take Salah as an example this year - shot conversion rate of 22% overall
Take out the penalties and it's 16%
3.23 shots per 90 - 0.52 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF

Havertz this year
2.52 shots per 90 - 0.44 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF
Conversion rate of 17.4% , 1.4% ahead of Salah.

I can tell you why - it's not because Havertz is a better finisher, it's because his chances where he even tries to shoot are far more skewed towards close range efforts, whereas Salah shoots far more and takes shots from more difficult situations.

By the way , Chris Woods has a 27% conversion rate of non penalty shots and it's not just one season - last year it was 29%.
If you just took those numbers he'd be the worlds best finisher.
He's not- it's just the way Forest play and the vast chunk of his goals being close range headers.

If you were to argue that our players should be shooting more instead of trying to be sure - or being afraid to shoot - and we focused on that as a team in terms of training and technique, I'd be with you. But basing signing needs and decisions on a shot conversion metric at the macro level would be madness.

Ok, let me put an end to this argument. Even if all you say is correct, there is a reason why:

Havertz averages a goal every 3.65 games in his Premier League career. For Arsenal its down to a goal every 2.80 games.

Salah averages a goal every 1.62 games in his entire Premier League career.

Haaland averages a goal every 1.14 games in his entire Premier League career.

Jesus averages a goal every 3.01 games in his entire Premier League career.

Chris Wood averages a goal every 2.94 games in his entire Premier League career.

Harry Kane averaged a goal every 1.50 games in his entire Premier League career.

However you want to look at it Jay a goal every 3 games is the strike rate of a bang average striker which are the stats of Chris Wood, Havertz and Jesus. Bang average bro. Its widely accepted that a good strike rate is a goal every 2 games, anything more than that is top level. I want the player that is going to score me lots of goals and has the stats to prove that he will. I don';t care about the difficulty of the chances, I don't care how they go in, I want a player that you can bank on when he gets the chance he is going to put it away at least once every 2 games.

You pivoted to a different stat.

Individuals games per goal is not important.
Team goals per game is and whether that's more than the opposition on a game to game basis.
I couldn't give a f**k if we win 3-0 and with 3 goalscorers, and a rival draws 3-3 and their striker scores a hat trick.

You seem to be chasing a unicorn of a striker who is going to always score when it matters,
Doesn't exist - never has.
Every striker in history has missed far more chances than they scored.

For sure, some strikers are better than others - but goal scoring has not been a problem for us in the last couple of years and this year our top 4 forwards were out for extended periods and all at the same time, hence we didn't score as many. Had nothing to do with needing a strike beyond the unmanageable injury crisis.

I think next season we actually do, because the injuries to Jesus are too much to risk again.

[VCC]

If our strikers were so fucken good we wouldn't be linked to every striker and his dog on the planet.

[ag6789]

Havertz has 29 goals and 13 assists in 74 starts and 11 subs so far at Arsenal in season and half. That's about 6500 minutes in all
He has played significant amount of minutes as a midfielder in his first season ,where his sole focus wasn't scoring goals only.
I think 42 goals contribution in 74 starts , is pretty good by any standards.
He hasn't been spectacular in front of the goal , but effective nonetheless.
We have missed a much maligned Havertz during the business end of the season.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Havertz has 29 goals and 13 assists in 74 starts and 11 subs so far at Arsenal in season and half. That's about 6500 minutes in all
He has played significant amount of minutes as a midfielder in his first season ,where his sole focus wasn't scoring goals only.
I think 42 goals contribution in 74 starts , is pretty good by any standards.
He hasn't been spectacular in front of the goal , but effective nonetheless.
We have missed a much maligned Havertz during the business end of the season.

These are Nic Pepe numbers, a guy who was new to the PL, played fewer minutes and was never supported by the manager anywhere near the level of poor baby Kai.

5650 mins played, 24G, 15A in his first 2 seasons.

He wasn't good enough and neither is Kai at twice the wage. Only one of them contributed to a trophy though.

[VCC]

Thank f**k De Bruin has ruled out a .ove to Arsenal and f**k Arteta and his fetish for washed up players

[jayramfootball]

Havertz has 29 goals and 13 assists in 74 starts and 11 subs so far at Arsenal in season and half. That's about 6500 minutes in all
He has played significant amount of minutes as a midfielder in his first season ,where his sole focus wasn't scoring goals only.
I think 42 goals contribution in 74 starts , is pretty good by any standards.
He hasn't been spectacular in front of the goal , but effective nonetheless.
We have missed a much maligned Havertz during the business end of the season.

Missed him really badly.
Only Saka was a bigger miss than Kai.
I love that he’s been so good at Arsenal after the abuse he had to endure.
Realistically he and Saka were the 2 injuries we could not afford and we lost any chance of the league when Kai got injured.
Glad he’s back and will be ready for next season.

[theHotHead]

In Jesus' best goal scoring chance season for us he had a shot conversion rate of 14% in the league.

In Havertz last 2 seasons for us he has had shot conversion rates of 17% this season and 18% last season.

In his last season for Spurs Harry Kane had a shot conversion rate of 23%

In Nketiah's best season for us (2021/22 when he scored 5 league goals in 21 appearances) his shot conversion rate was 17%

Comparisons? Salah's shot conversion rate was 22% this season Haaland this season is 20%, last season he was 22%, season before he was 29% !!!

I think I have made my point conclusively. Jesus and Havertz' don't score enough from their chances. We need a striker whose conversion rate is 20% minimum.

Shot conversion is skewed a lot by the quality of the chance.
Put it this way. If you shoot from range a lot your conversion will be lower.
Shot conversion numbers also include penalties by the way. Another skew. Some players take them, some don’t.

Chris Woods shot conversion rate this year is 31%.
Is he the answer then?

Should Liverpool trade in Salah for him, City trade in Haaland to try to get him? His shot conversion is way better than both. They win more games with Chris Woods by your logic because he’d be better in the vital moments.

Nice try. The problem with your example though is we have enough data on Chris Wood. He does have very good conversion rates, problem is, his numbers are poor, he doesnt score enough. This season is an outlier rather than the norm.

His limited ability on the ball as well prevent him from ever being a target of the big clubs

So now we're adding ability on the ball to equation and we now also need to look at more seasons.
In truth there are several more factors that make up a good fit for any player in any team.
The use of shot conversion is not a metric to be used singularly because of the reasons I said - it depends on which type of shots you have.
If an average player has 20 shots all season and 10 of them were penalties, and he missed the other 10 chances and missed 2 of the pens also - he'd have a conversion rate of 40%.

Take Salah as an example this year - shot conversion rate of 22% overall
Take out the penalties and it's 16%
3.23 shots per 90 - 0.52 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF

Havertz this year
2.52 shots per 90 - 0.44 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF
Conversion rate of 17.4% , 1.4% ahead of Salah.

I can tell you why - it's not because Havertz is a better finisher, it's because his chances where he even tries to shoot are far more skewed towards close range efforts, whereas Salah shoots far more and takes shots from more difficult situations.

By the way , Chris Woods has a 27% conversion rate of non penalty shots and it's not just one season - last year it was 29%.
If you just took those numbers he'd be the worlds best finisher.
He's not- it's just the way Forest play and the vast chunk of his goals being close range headers.

If you were to argue that our players should be shooting more instead of trying to be sure - or being afraid to shoot - and we focused on that as a team in terms of training and technique, I'd be with you. But basing signing needs and decisions on a shot conversion metric at the macro level would be madness.

Ok, let me put an end to this argument. Even if all you say is correct, there is a reason why:

Havertz averages a goal every 3.65 games in his Premier League career. For Arsenal its down to a goal every 2.80 games.

Salah averages a goal every 1.62 games in his entire Premier League career.

Haaland averages a goal every 1.14 games in his entire Premier League career.

Jesus averages a goal every 3.01 games in his entire Premier League career.

Chris Wood averages a goal every 2.94 games in his entire Premier League career.

Harry Kane averaged a goal every 1.50 games in his entire Premier League career.

However you want to look at it Jay a goal every 3 games is the strike rate of a bang average striker which are the stats of Chris Wood, Havertz and Jesus. Bang average bro. Its widely accepted that a good strike rate is a goal every 2 games, anything more than that is top level. I want the player that is going to score me lots of goals and has the stats to prove that he will. I don';t care about the difficulty of the chances, I don't care how they go in, I want a player that you can bank on when he gets the chance he is going to put it away at least once every 2 games.

You pivoted to a different stat.

Individuals games per goal is not important.
Team goals per game is and whether that's more than the opposition on a game to game basis.
I couldn't give a f**k if we win 3-0 and with 3 goalscorers, and a rival draws 3-3 and their striker scores a hat trick.

You seem to be chasing a unicorn of a striker who is going to always score when it matters,
Doesn't exist - never has.
Every striker in history has missed far more chances than they scored.

For sure, some strikers are better than others - but goal scoring has not been a problem for us in the last couple of years and this year our top 4 forwards were out for extended periods and all at the same time, hence we didn't score as many. Had nothing to do with needing a strike beyond the unmanageable injury crisis.

I think next season we actually do, because the injuries to Jesus are too much to risk again.

I pivoted because you made a point regarding Chris Woods that was valid. So I acknowledged that and made a point that ultimately curtails your Chris Wood point - he doesn't score enough goals and never has. That applies to Jesus, it also applies to Havertz.

You are arguing about team goals, if anything thats the unicorn. We had that the past couple of seasons but its rare for teams to have it. Its usually a reliance on 2 or 3 main goal threats and having a consistent team performance to prevent the conceding of goals. Notice what happened to us when tinker man tinkered with a system that worked perfectly well for the previous 2 seasons, we looked disjointed and ineffective, having to rely on set piece goals.

At that stage all wasn't lost had we had a traditional CF in the team, the umpteen million crosses we slung into the box would've been met by someone used to getting on the end of crosses.

[jayramfootball]

In Jesus' best goal scoring chance season for us he had a shot conversion rate of 14% in the league.

In Havertz last 2 seasons for us he has had shot conversion rates of 17% this season and 18% last season.

In his last season for Spurs Harry Kane had a shot conversion rate of 23%

In Nketiah's best season for us (2021/22 when he scored 5 league goals in 21 appearances) his shot conversion rate was 17%

Comparisons? Salah's shot conversion rate was 22% this season Haaland this season is 20%, last season he was 22%, season before he was 29% !!!

I think I have made my point conclusively. Jesus and Havertz' don't score enough from their chances. We need a striker whose conversion rate is 20% minimum.

Shot conversion is skewed a lot by the quality of the chance.
Put it this way. If you shoot from range a lot your conversion will be lower.
Shot conversion numbers also include penalties by the way. Another skew. Some players take them, some don’t.

Chris Woods shot conversion rate this year is 31%.
Is he the answer then?

Should Liverpool trade in Salah for him, City trade in Haaland to try to get him? His shot conversion is way better than both. They win more games with Chris Woods by your logic because he’d be better in the vital moments.

Nice try. The problem with your example though is we have enough data on Chris Wood. He does have very good conversion rates, problem is, his numbers are poor, he doesnt score enough. This season is an outlier rather than the norm.

His limited ability on the ball as well prevent him from ever being a target of the big clubs

So now we're adding ability on the ball to equation and we now also need to look at more seasons.
In truth there are several more factors that make up a good fit for any player in any team.
The use of shot conversion is not a metric to be used singularly because of the reasons I said - it depends on which type of shots you have.
If an average player has 20 shots all season and 10 of them were penalties, and he missed the other 10 chances and missed 2 of the pens also - he'd have a conversion rate of 40%.

Take Salah as an example this year - shot conversion rate of 22% overall
Take out the penalties and it's 16%
3.23 shots per 90 - 0.52 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF

Havertz this year
2.52 shots per 90 - 0.44 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF
Conversion rate of 17.4% , 1.4% ahead of Salah.

I can tell you why - it's not because Havertz is a better finisher, it's because his chances where he even tries to shoot are far more skewed towards close range efforts, whereas Salah shoots far more and takes shots from more difficult situations.

By the way , Chris Woods has a 27% conversion rate of non penalty shots and it's not just one season - last year it was 29%.
If you just took those numbers he'd be the worlds best finisher.
He's not- it's just the way Forest play and the vast chunk of his goals being close range headers.

If you were to argue that our players should be shooting more instead of trying to be sure - or being afraid to shoot - and we focused on that as a team in terms of training and technique, I'd be with you. But basing signing needs and decisions on a shot conversion metric at the macro level would be madness.

Ok, let me put an end to this argument. Even if all you say is correct, there is a reason why:

Havertz averages a goal every 3.65 games in his Premier League career. For Arsenal its down to a goal every 2.80 games.

Salah averages a goal every 1.62 games in his entire Premier League career.

Haaland averages a goal every 1.14 games in his entire Premier League career.

Jesus averages a goal every 3.01 games in his entire Premier League career.

Chris Wood averages a goal every 2.94 games in his entire Premier League career.

Harry Kane averaged a goal every 1.50 games in his entire Premier League career.

However you want to look at it Jay a goal every 3 games is the strike rate of a bang average striker which are the stats of Chris Wood, Havertz and Jesus. Bang average bro. Its widely accepted that a good strike rate is a goal every 2 games, anything more than that is top level. I want the player that is going to score me lots of goals and has the stats to prove that he will. I don';t care about the difficulty of the chances, I don't care how they go in, I want a player that you can bank on when he gets the chance he is going to put it away at least once every 2 games.

You pivoted to a different stat.

Individuals games per goal is not important.
Team goals per game is and whether that's more than the opposition on a game to game basis.
I couldn't give a f**k if we win 3-0 and with 3 goalscorers, and a rival draws 3-3 and their striker scores a hat trick.

You seem to be chasing a unicorn of a striker who is going to always score when it matters,
Doesn't exist - never has.
Every striker in history has missed far more chances than they scored.

For sure, some strikers are better than others - but goal scoring has not been a problem for us in the last couple of years and this year our top 4 forwards were out for extended periods and all at the same time, hence we didn't score as many. Had nothing to do with needing a strike beyond the unmanageable injury crisis.

I think next season we actually do, because the injuries to Jesus are too much to risk again.

I pivoted because you made a point regarding Chris Woods that was valid. So I acknowledged that and made a point that ultimately curtails your Chris Wood point - he doesn't score enough goals and never has. That applies to Jesus, it also applies to Havertz.

You are arguing about team goals, if anything thats the unicorn. We had that the past couple of seasons but its rare for teams to have it. Its usually a reliance on 2 or 3 main goal threats and having a consistent team performance to prevent the conceding of goals. Notice what happened to us when tinker man tinkered with a system that worked perfectly well for the previous 2 seasons, we looked disjointed and ineffective, having to rely on set piece goals.

At that stage all wasn't lost had we had a traditional CF in the team, the umpteen million crosses we slung into the box would've been met by someone used to getting on the end of crosses.

The Chris Wood point was to emphasise that conversion rates of chances at the total level is not a good metric to judge finishing - and I have shown pretty clearly why
xG is far better if you want to understand finishing ability, but not conclusive either.

Individual goals is great for creating fandom around a star, and that does have some merit, but it's not an indication of much on it's own.
Team goals are not a unicorn - it's the entire purpose of football along with not conceding them.

Overall i think there are many factors that go into goal output for the team.

[Rockape]

Havertz has 29 goals and 13 assists in 74 starts and 11 subs so far at Arsenal in season and half. That's about 6500 minutes in all
He has played significant amount of minutes as a midfielder in his first season ,where his sole focus wasn't scoring goals only.
I think 42 goals contribution in 74 starts , is pretty good by any standards.
He hasn't been spectacular in front of the goal , but effective nonetheless.
We have missed a much maligned Havertz during the business end of the season.

Missed him really badly.
Only Saka was a bigger miss than Kai.
I love that he’s been so good at Arsenal after the abuse he had to endure.
Realistically he and Saka were the 2 injuries we could not afford and we lost any chance of the league when Kai got injured.
Glad he’s back and will be ready for next season.

I'm still not convinced. We've seen Merino step into that role and do as well, perhaps better than Havertz.....which says to me that we could stick anyone half decent into the box and we'd create enough opportunities for him to score and assist.

We need a specialist goal scorer to take us over the line in next years competitions. Another year with 'King Kai' upfront will hinder us winning comps I think.

[theHotHead]

In Jesus' best goal scoring chance season for us he had a shot conversion rate of 14% in the league.

In Havertz last 2 seasons for us he has had shot conversion rates of 17% this season and 18% last season.

In his last season for Spurs Harry Kane had a shot conversion rate of 23%

In Nketiah's best season for us (2021/22 when he scored 5 league goals in 21 appearances) his shot conversion rate was 17%

Comparisons? Salah's shot conversion rate was 22% this season Haaland this season is 20%, last season he was 22%, season before he was 29% !!!

I think I have made my point conclusively. Jesus and Havertz' don't score enough from their chances. We need a striker whose conversion rate is 20% minimum.

Shot conversion is skewed a lot by the quality of the chance.
Put it this way. If you shoot from range a lot your conversion will be lower.
Shot conversion numbers also include penalties by the way. Another skew. Some players take them, some don’t.

Chris Woods shot conversion rate this year is 31%.
Is he the answer then?

Should Liverpool trade in Salah for him, City trade in Haaland to try to get him? His shot conversion is way better than both. They win more games with Chris Woods by your logic because he’d be better in the vital moments.

Nice try. The problem with your example though is we have enough data on Chris Wood. He does have very good conversion rates, problem is, his numbers are poor, he doesnt score enough. This season is an outlier rather than the norm.

His limited ability on the ball as well prevent him from ever being a target of the big clubs

So now we're adding ability on the ball to equation and we now also need to look at more seasons.
In truth there are several more factors that make up a good fit for any player in any team.
The use of shot conversion is not a metric to be used singularly because of the reasons I said - it depends on which type of shots you have.
If an average player has 20 shots all season and 10 of them were penalties, and he missed the other 10 chances and missed 2 of the pens also - he'd have a conversion rate of 40%.

Take Salah as an example this year - shot conversion rate of 22% overall
Take out the penalties and it's 16%
3.23 shots per 90 - 0.52 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF

Havertz this year
2.52 shots per 90 - 0.44 non penalty goals per 90 - as per FBREF
Conversion rate of 17.4% , 1.4% ahead of Salah.

I can tell you why - it's not because Havertz is a better finisher, it's because his chances where he even tries to shoot are far more skewed towards close range efforts, whereas Salah shoots far more and takes shots from more difficult situations.

By the way , Chris Woods has a 27% conversion rate of non penalty shots and it's not just one season - last year it was 29%.
If you just took those numbers he'd be the worlds best finisher.
He's not- it's just the way Forest play and the vast chunk of his goals being close range headers.

If you were to argue that our players should be shooting more instead of trying to be sure - or being afraid to shoot - and we focused on that as a team in terms of training and technique, I'd be with you. But basing signing needs and decisions on a shot conversion metric at the macro level would be madness.

Ok, let me put an end to this argument. Even if all you say is correct, there is a reason why:

Havertz averages a goal every 3.65 games in his Premier League career. For Arsenal its down to a goal every 2.80 games.

Salah averages a goal every 1.62 games in his entire Premier League career.

Haaland averages a goal every 1.14 games in his entire Premier League career.

Jesus averages a goal every 3.01 games in his entire Premier League career.

Chris Wood averages a goal every 2.94 games in his entire Premier League career.

Harry Kane averaged a goal every 1.50 games in his entire Premier League career.

However you want to look at it Jay a goal every 3 games is the strike rate of a bang average striker which are the stats of Chris Wood, Havertz and Jesus. Bang average bro. Its widely accepted that a good strike rate is a goal every 2 games, anything more than that is top level. I want the player that is going to score me lots of goals and has the stats to prove that he will. I don';t care about the difficulty of the chances, I don't care how they go in, I want a player that you can bank on when he gets the chance he is going to put it away at least once every 2 games.

You pivoted to a different stat.

Individuals games per goal is not important.
Team goals per game is and whether that's more than the opposition on a game to game basis.
I couldn't give a f**k if we win 3-0 and with 3 goalscorers, and a rival draws 3-3 and their striker scores a hat trick.

You seem to be chasing a unicorn of a striker who is going to always score when it matters,
Doesn't exist - never has.
Every striker in history has missed far more chances than they scored.

For sure, some strikers are better than others - but goal scoring has not been a problem for us in the last couple of years and this year our top 4 forwards were out for extended periods and all at the same time, hence we didn't score as many. Had nothing to do with needing a strike beyond the unmanageable injury crisis.

I think next season we actually do, because the injuries to Jesus are too much to risk again.

I pivoted because you made a point regarding Chris Woods that was valid. So I acknowledged that and made a point that ultimately curtails your Chris Wood point - he doesn't score enough goals and never has. That applies to Jesus, it also applies to Havertz.

You are arguing about team goals, if anything thats the unicorn. We had that the past couple of seasons but its rare for teams to have it. Its usually a reliance on 2 or 3 main goal threats and having a consistent team performance to prevent the conceding of goals. Notice what happened to us when tinker man tinkered with a system that worked perfectly well for the previous 2 seasons, we looked disjointed and ineffective, having to rely on set piece goals.

At that stage all wasn't lost had we had a traditional CF in the team, the umpteen million crosses we slung into the box would've been met by someone used to getting on the end of crosses.

The Chris Wood point was to emphasise that conversion rates of chances at the total level is not a good metric to judge finishing - and I have shown pretty clearly why
xG is far better if you want to understand finishing ability, but not conclusive either.

Individual goals is great for creating fandom around a star, and that does have some merit, but it's not an indication of much on it's own.
Team goals are not a unicorn - it's the entire purpose of football along with not conceding them.

Overall i think there are many factors that go into goal output for the team.

Yeah but tou understand the premise of the argument though:

1) You need a striker with a good conversion rate
2) You need a striker that will score lots of goals

With that player you will win things, without that player as we have proven for the past 4 seasons, you won't win anything.

[Ach]

On the pressure to win a trophy next season: "The biggest thing is and using the word pride, is that we have brought the club into a position that next season 'you have to win a major trophy'. That means that everybody believes that we have the level, that we have shown the consistency, and we are an elite team in this country and in Europe and if you don't do that, then what's going to happen? So, for me that's the biggest statement - that Arsenal is there."

Arteta continued: "We all feel the same way, that we feel that we are capable of winning the Premier League. It's not just a dream or it's not just something you want to do. It's do we have everything that is needed? Even if you do, there is a lot of things that are going to play a part to win."

[Marsbar100]

Well we aren’t elite, we haven’t won anything for 5 seasons.

[Ach]

Well we aren’t elite, we haven’t won anything for 5 seasons.

Yeah that's the bit that made me laugh

Do we have everything we need, he asks?

A striker and a competent manager is needed

[swipe right]

I feel for him. How can he win a trophy when the referees are out to get him, god strikes his players down with injuries, and they even remove the seams on the bloody ball. The fact that he can still keep calm and carry on is admirable.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

On the pressure to win a trophy next season: "The biggest thing is and using the word pride, is that we have brought the club into a position that next season 'you have to win a major trophy'. That means that everybody believes that we have the level, that we have shown the consistency, and we are an elite team in this country and in Europe and if you don't do that, then what's going to happen? So, for me that's the biggest statement - that Arsenal is there."

Arteta continued: "We all feel the same way, that we feel that we are capable of winning the Premier League. It's not just a dream or it's not just something you want to do. It's do we have everything that is needed? Even if you do, there is a lot of things that are going to play a part to win."

"We have brought the club to a position where a major trophy has to be won".

We were already there in 2019 with a Europa final and Fa Cup win with a 30 goal striker. 70 points then was 5th place, 71 points now is 2nd place.

Looking forward to our open top bus pride parade, because this guy is never winning the league.