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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Thu May 16, 2024 7:52 am

Ach wrote:I guess we know what Jay has been doing during his ban. Making up some award for arteta

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby MathyGooner » Thu May 16, 2024 8:32 am

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Ach wrote:Ancelotti did poorly at Everton? Lol wtf

Did well enough to get real Madrid interested

Had a shit ending to the season but were top 8 for most of it but couldn't maintain it. It's Everton lol. They've been nowhere near as good as they were under him since

Weren't they top of the league for the first part of a season with DCL scoring bare goals?! :think:


Totally bottled it.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Managerial

Postby MathyGooner » Thu May 16, 2024 8:33 am

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Marsbar100 wrote:We could have beat city with the chances Jesus had in the away game, that and the Villa games looks to have cost us.

Isn't that saying something though, that you are highlighting 2 games in a 38 game season that were a problem?! 5% of the matches played


Absolutely highlights the margins. Let's be real, it's the Villa game that did it. One game. Where we should've been leading at half time.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Rockape » Thu May 16, 2024 8:44 am

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22-0 wrote:bad luck? he got it all wrong vs aston villa with his selection that made us lose the lead over city.

We also started the season with that horrible havertz in midfield formation.. yet he learned nothing from it.

Yesh - tell me who is perfect FFS ?!!!

Listen to your agument, you are fuming that he put Havertz back into midfield from CF where he was doing really well, I agree. But its the same manager that bought Havertz that none of us wanted and that all of us bar Jay thought was shit - until he played at CF.

The point I am making is perhaps Arteta saw something/had an idea that he thought would work. Yes he f***ked up, but who is perfect at their job ? I am bloody fantastic at mine ... but I am certainly not perfect.


You say you don’t like Arteta then spend most of your time on here with your tongue up his arse

He doesn’t have to be perfect, he just has to win trophies, that’s all. So you save it with the straw man bs. Nobody is asking for him to be perfect.

Oh shut up you muppet

If you jackasses didn't spend all day making stupid arguments I wouldn't have to defend him!! The fact I dont rate him but am willing to defend him tells you how pathetic some of your arguments are!!


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I really don't know why you bother HH......you may as well do this: :BangHead:
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Thu May 16, 2024 8:53 am

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby UFGN » Thu May 16, 2024 9:07 am

theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
22-0 wrote:bad luck? he got it all wrong vs aston villa with his selection that made us lose the lead over city.

We also started the season with that horrible havertz in midfield formation.. yet he learned nothing from it.

Yesh - tell me who is perfect FFS ?!!!

Listen to your agument, you are fuming that he put Havertz back into midfield from CF where he was doing really well, I agree. But its the same manager that bought Havertz that none of us wanted and that all of us bar Jay thought was shit - until he played at CF.

The point I am making is perhaps Arteta saw something/had an idea that he thought would work. Yes he f***ked up, but who is perfect at their job ? I am bloody fantastic at mine ... but I am certainly not perfect.


You say you don’t like Arteta then spend most of your time on here with your tongue up his arse

He doesn’t have to be perfect, he just has to win trophies, that’s all. So you save it with the straw man bs. Nobody is asking for him to be perfect.

Oh shut up you muppet

If you jackasses didn't spend all day making stupid arguments I wouldn't have to defend him!! The fact I dont rate him but am willing to defend him tells you how pathetic some of your arguments are!!


What, like the argument that he's spent untold money and essentially won f**k all? That is essentially my only argument. It's you who has to duck and spin, I'm straight up about my case, which is entirely reasonable. The bullshit is all from you.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby UFGN » Thu May 16, 2024 9:15 am

theHotHead wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:
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Salibatelli wrote:Postecoglou said in his pre match interview then when he walks around the halls there’s no bragging rights trophies, this applies to us as there are no trophies for most goals or most points of best defence.

You only get trophies for being number 1 and beating everyone else, everything else is kinda irrelevant, history doesn’t remember who came 2nd, noone ever goes this team were great remember when they came 2nd twice in a row, what an amazing team.

Losing finalists in the CL final aren’t celebrating after the whistle for getting to the CL final, FA cup finalists aren’t happy when they lose the final.


Absolutely

Too many man babies in our support who think they’re in primary school, arguing with school kids that their club is the bestist. Pathetic.


It’s become normalised at this club to have excuses for not getting over the line, we’ve had 20 years of it.

Always next year, we came 2nd last year this should have been the year when we won it, yes we’ve been good this year bit a season runs from August to May not from January to May, we had a poor run late last year and weren’t great then we had breaks galore and had a good run in January/February but a title winning side is relentless in the home straight bit we blinked and that was tha(.

Everyone was saying how Man City aren’t the same and how this is our chance, how we beat them and Liverpool etc but at the end of it all it looks like they are going to go home with the trophy.

You bitches would crumble to dirt if you had to support a team that had no chance of winning anything!!

Man is calling people man babies and the ones acting like f***ing babies throwing bare toys out of prams is him and his crew.

Get a grip!


You don't understand my point but that doesn't surprise me. I don't like people like your arsehole troll best mate who like to find an angle on everything. Oh Arsenal are the best because xyz. Arteta is doing fine because xyz. Our squad doesn't need improvement because they're great. It's sickening and it's loser mentality. Like a kid in a playground just arguing that his team is the besterist.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Thu May 16, 2024 9:21 am

theHotHead wrote:Its easy to be clever in hindsight.

One argument could be that because Havertz had found his footing in the team and was playing with confidence he might bring that form and confidence into playing in midfield. Not beyond the realms of belief that something like that would work. It didn't, like I said its easy to be clever in hindsight .

Turns out, Havertz in CF has worked out fantastically well for us, nobody wanted us to sign Havertz in the first place, Arteta made a big decision, a bold one and it has worked out very well for us.


What if we’d done the logical thing and signed a genuine CF.

Arteta made a big decision and it was wrong IMO, for half the season he was terrible, as it turns out the first half of the season is probably what cost us the title.

Havertz was better in the second half of the season, but I still think a goalscorer would have been the better choice and may well have made the difference.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Thu May 16, 2024 9:36 am

Havertz hasn't even been better than Mateta
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Thu May 16, 2024 10:12 am

If we could get our 65 million back , I’d give him back, he’s no gamechanger.

Jackson has more goals than him.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby UFGN » Thu May 16, 2024 10:54 am

Salibatelli wrote:If we could get our 65 million back , I’d give him back, he’s no gamechanger.

Jackson has more goals than him.


That's Jackson, a player who's been crap for most of the season and is deeply unpopular with Chelsea fans

Gives you a sense of scale
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Salibatelli » Thu May 16, 2024 11:18 am

UFGN wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:If we could get our 65 million back , I’d give him back, he’s no gamechanger.

Jackson has more goals than him.


That's Jackson, a player who's been crap for most of the season and is deeply unpopular with Chelsea fans

Gives you a sense of scale


Yes exactly, he’s a guy who has a long list of horrendous misses and really has disappointed.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Managerial

Postby TedLasso » Thu May 16, 2024 11:45 am

MathyGooner wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:We could have beat city with the chances Jesus had in the away game, that and the Villa games looks to have cost us.

Isn't that saying something though, that you are highlighting 2 games in a 38 game season that were a problem?! 5% of the matches played


Absolutely highlights the margins. Let's be real, it's the Villa game that did it. One game. Where we should've been leading at half time.


Margins are razor thin at this level. Look at City right now. 34 in a row unbeaten and if they had slipped up even once, the title is ours. Any title challenging club is going to look back on one match lost and wonder what if? The fact that we've pushed the Pep dynasty to go 30+ unbeaten shows we're capable of winning trophies. Just need the players to push it over the line at some point.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Thu May 16, 2024 12:24 pm

UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
UFGN wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
22-0 wrote:bad luck? he got it all wrong vs aston villa with his selection that made us lose the lead over city.

We also started the season with that horrible havertz in midfield formation.. yet he learned nothing from it.

Yesh - tell me who is perfect FFS ?!!!

Listen to your agument, you are fuming that he put Havertz back into midfield from CF where he was doing really well, I agree. But its the same manager that bought Havertz that none of us wanted and that all of us bar Jay thought was shit - until he played at CF.

The point I am making is perhaps Arteta saw something/had an idea that he thought would work. Yes he f***ked up, but who is perfect at their job ? I am bloody fantastic at mine ... but I am certainly not perfect.


You say you don’t like Arteta then spend most of your time on here with your tongue up his arse

He doesn’t have to be perfect, he just has to win trophies, that’s all. So you save it with the straw man bs. Nobody is asking for him to be perfect.

Oh shut up you muppet

If you jackasses didn't spend all day making stupid arguments I wouldn't have to defend him!! The fact I dont rate him but am willing to defend him tells you how pathetic some of your arguments are!!


What, like the argument that he's spent untold money and essentially won f**k all? That is essentially my only argument. It's you who has to duck and spin, I'm straight up about my case, which is entirely reasonable. The bullshit is all from you.

Can't you see that we are almost there ?? We can taste victory.

We could be in Man U and Chelsea's shoes, spent a billion and not even close. We have spent half that and are pretty much there. One more hurdle to get over, you can look at the last 3 seasons and see negatives - collapses, I chose to see a team that hit adversity and came back stronger the next season. Why should next season be different ?!
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Thu May 16, 2024 12:28 pm

UFGN wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:If we could get our 65 million back , I’d give him back, he’s no gamechanger.

Jackson has more goals than him.


That's Jackson, a player who's been crap for most of the season and is deeply unpopular with Chelsea fans

Gives you a sense of scale

Yes it does, considering Jackson is a CF and has played as a CF all season, Havertz was playing as a midfilelder for at least half of the season :lol:

So in half the time Havertz has matched Jackson's full season stats. Thanks for the leg up boys.
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