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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:33 pm

starts willian despite his rogue trip to dubai


but but his non-negotiables
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:34 pm

He's an absolute joke
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Nuggets » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:50 pm

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swipe right wrote:Arteta needs to unfuck himself. He started of well but early success seems to have gone to his head. Alienating Ozil, the stupid loan deals, playing this defensive garbage has made him look poor. It’s not too late to turn it around.


Re-instate Ozil and add him in pen to the team sheet.
Sell Auba and Laca in January and bring in a new striker.
Bring in a new creative midfielder who will replace Ozil next year.
Bring in a CB to play with Gabriel
Bring in a new goal keeper.
abandon his crappy style of football

That would be a start to a long road ahead.

But the best way to unfuck himself would be to resign and go and get a coaching job at a lower-level club (much lower level)


Now I agree with you there. :clap:
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:12 pm

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Power n Glory wrote:We play our best football on the counter. Only watched the highlights but it's not that different from how Spurs beat City. If anyone finds Arteta's style boring you wouldn't enjoy watching us coached by Mourinho either.

Personally, I hope Arteta isn't trying to replicate Pep's style of football. It doesn't work and costs billions in players to get it working. Us trying to dominate possession more and player higher up the pitch has cost us some points. That Villa lose looks a lot worse. Hoping to see something new today but it sounds like we'll see more of the same judging from Arteta's press run.


It's chalk and cheese - Spurs played a very congested narrow defence giving away the wide areas (City managed 23 crosses, had 10 corners to Spurs 0)) Spurs were only defending the zone in line with the penalty area, it's football designed for counter attacking as opposing players are drawn out wide creating holes for one of the front three to drop in (and they have Kane) that's a tactical plan not a lucky accident.

We played City with two wide FB's and tried to defend the wings almost the exact opposite approach, this meant that with FB's out wide our midfield had to drop deep to hold their midfield runners, and as happens most weeks we isolated the front three who can't or won't drop deep.

When we played City we created ZERO attempts from playing on the counter attack, our transition was just to slow - 8 of our 11 attempts came from set pieces, we didn't manage a single shot on target in the second half ... Spurs created all their attempts (and both goals) from fast counter attacks where City players were caught out of position.

Spurs made 24 tackles in midfield we made just 11 .... Spurs aggressive press disposed Man City 18 times, we managed to do that just 5 times.

You may think Arteta sets up like Mourinho but it's just not true ... he sets up far more like Pep with his attacking fullbacks supposed to drag opposing players wide and create space for the front three to exploit ... the problem is everyone knows this is Plan A and defend accordingly, feck we even made Villa look good.

Mourinho just let Walker and Cancelo run out of position, in fact he switched Son away from Walker (who has the pace to recover) and played him against Cancelo, that worked after just 5 minutes ...

Compared to Mourinho Arteta is very naive, hardly surprising it's his first job - today he will be compared to Bielsa another man with 65 years behind him ...

Bielsa will have his players in the face of our midfield and defence, if he can isolate our front three from the rest we will be feeding off scraps yet again, we will need a quick goal to break up their game plan, if not Arteta will need to find a bloody good Plan B

Mourinho did it with Pep which despite similar possession to us he won 2-0 and Arteta lost 1-0 ... so no it's not the same at all.

Spot on, it was the exact difference between how we play/setup and how Mourinho did it. It was obvious Mourinho was happy to concede space on the flanks, crosses were gobbled up all day and when City tried to play through the middle they were smothered.

It was a very smart game plan and not at all parking the bus. I used to hate it when he said this but its so true, "we controlled the game", City were exactly where Mourinho wanted them to be.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:16 pm

Power n Glory wrote:Yes, I think the majority would be happy if we were winning games. There are exceptions because even whilst winning there were some that were unhappy with the style of play.

Thats obvious though, it was the same with Emery during the unbeaten run, whilst we were not losing most fans were happy but there were some that called out the food fortune and poor football. Its obvious that when you are playing badly but winning the murmuring will be muted, but play badly and lose and people are seething - and rightly so.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Özim » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:19 pm

Santi wrote:starts willian despite his rogue trip to dubai


but but his non-negotiables


Double standards, not only is he clueless he also treats one player one way and another differently.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Tony Adams » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:40 pm

It's reminding me a lot of when emery lost the players.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Santi » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:44 pm

100%. Issues all over the shop and no results to cover it up.

We are just as bad now as we were this time last year.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:57 pm

Shocking this is, even before the sending off.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:58 pm

Be careful what you wish for
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Dejan » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:15 pm

Apparently is still too early for a mikel out threat?

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:20 pm

Defensively very good, we need a new attack
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Dejan » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:22 pm

Defensively very good?

We had 25% posession in the 2nd half and allowed leeds to have 24 shots including hitting the post 4 times

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:22 pm

We are diabolically shit
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:23 pm

Dejan wrote:Defensively very good?

We had 25% posession in the 2nd half and allowed leeds to have 24 shots including hitting the post 4 times

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