Massa wrote:Top 4 should always be the minimum target. But if we don't make it that doesn't mean Mikel should go
The goat returns
by Santi » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:44 pm
Massa wrote:Top 4 should always be the minimum target. But if we don't make it that doesn't mean Mikel should go
by theHotHead » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:01 pm
by jayramfootball » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:07 pm
theHotHead wrote:Im laughing because half the forum said the squad was shit and here we are in with a strong shout for a top 3 place!!
I said the players were better than we have been seeing, they said the players are not good enough.
by Santi » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:05 pm
by Salibatelli » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:25 pm
by DiamondGooner » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:33 pm
Salibatelli wrote:I think people need to look at a our remaining fixtures before going over the top about Arteta, we’ve got a tough looking list of games, we’ve just got to hope some of those teams have a dip in form before we meet them.
I think our fixtures have been kind recently, other than Wolves away the matches haven’t been too tough and Wolves gave us a bit of a helping hand with the goal we scored in that.
by Losmeister » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:44 pm
by swipe right » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:09 pm
by Salibatelli » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:18 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Salibatelli wrote:I think people need to look at a our remaining fixtures before going over the top about Arteta, we’ve got a tough looking list of games, we’ve just got to hope some of those teams have a dip in form before we meet them.
I think our fixtures have been kind recently, other than Wolves away the matches haven’t been too tough and Wolves gave us a bit of a helping hand with the goal we scored in that.
Yep, 15 games left.
A lot of time for things to go right and things to go wrong.
However unlike our rivals we have no competitions left but the Prem, as long as ESR, Saka and Martinelli start getting an eye for goal we could make it but its all up in the air right now.
One thing for sure is that every winnable game we have left needs to be won, a couple of Burnley type games and we could be out of the race.
by Salibatelli » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:20 pm
swipe right wrote:Look here’s the thing. Arteta has us well organized. We look compact and are hard to break down even for good teams. That’s definitely a positive.
What we are missing is incision in our play. I don’t think Saka, Odegard or ESR are giving the forwards much to work with. We saw Auba struggle to get goals and we see the same with Laca. Laca does a bit more in dropping back and helping the attack but when you have five midfielders operating that shouldn’t be the lone strikers job. He should be playing tip of the spear.
As the season gets into the final few games this will matter. The teams we are competing with for fourth have Ronaldo and Kane leading the line. They will get those clutch goals while we may not. A couple of draws here and there could doom us. I think we have left ourselves very exposed in this regard.
by theHotHead » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:22 pm
jayramfootball wrote:theHotHead wrote:Im laughing because half the forum said the squad was shit and here we are in with a strong shout for a top 3 place!!
I said the players were better than we have been seeing, they said the players are not good enough.
Stop trying to revise history HH.
The reason our squad is no longer shit is because of our truly brilliant summer transfer window and getting rid of deadwood.
You said the squad Arteta inherited was top class, which was a bat shit crazy thing to say.
Arteta has completely transformed us and our future is very bright. The entire reason we even have a shot at top 4 is because of the squad rebuild and development of young players.
I am assuming you are giving credit to Arteta?
by swipe right » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:30 pm
Salibatelli wrote:swipe right wrote:Look here’s the thing. Arteta has us well organized. We look compact and are hard to break down even for good teams. That’s definitely a positive.
What we are missing is incision in our play. I don’t think Saka, Odegard or ESR are giving the forwards much to work with. We saw Auba struggle to get goals and we see the same with Laca. Laca does a bit more in dropping back and helping the attack but when you have five midfielders operating that shouldn’t be the lone strikers job. He should be playing tip of the spear.
As the season gets into the final few games this will matter. The teams we are competing with for fourth have Ronaldo and Kane leading the line. They will get those clutch goals while we may not. A couple of draws here and there could doom us. I think we have left ourselves very exposed in this regard.
Yes no doubt we’re better defensively, but then he is a defensive manager, going forward we’re ok but we do make hard work of it sometimes, we get through against weaker teams but in harder games chances are much harder to come by.
The away Wolves games was a good example where we wouldn’t have scored if not for a bit of a goalkeeping error.
by Santi » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:56 pm
swipe right wrote:Look here’s the thing. Arteta has us well organized. We look compact and are hard to break down even for good teams. That’s definitely a positive.
What we are missing is incision in our play. I don’t think Saka, Odegard or ESR are giving the forwards much to work with. We saw Auba struggle to get goals and we see the same with Laca. Laca does a bit more in dropping back and helping the attack but when you have five midfielders operating that shouldn’t be the lone strikers job. He should be playing tip of the spear.
As the season gets into the final few games this will matter. The teams we are competing with for fourth have Ronaldo and Kane leading the line. They will get those clutch goals while we may not. A couple of draws here and there could doom us. I think we have left ourselves very exposed in this regard.
by Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:19 pm
swipe right wrote:Look here’s the thing. Arteta has us well organized. We look compact and are hard to break down even for good teams. That’s definitely a positive.
What we are missing is incision in our play. I don’t think Saka, Odegard or ESR are giving the forwards much to work with. We saw Auba struggle to get goals and we see the same with Laca. Laca does a bit more in dropping back and helping the attack but when you have five midfielders operating that shouldn’t be the lone strikers job. He should be playing tip of the spear.
As the season gets into the final few games this will matter. The teams we are competing with for fourth have Ronaldo and Kane leading the line. They will get those clutch goals while we may not. A couple of draws here and there could doom us. I think we have left ourselves very exposed in this regard.
by Salibatelli » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:31 pm
swipe right wrote:Salibatelli wrote:swipe right wrote:Look here’s the thing. Arteta has us well organized. We look compact and are hard to break down even for good teams. That’s definitely a positive.
What we are missing is incision in our play. I don’t think Saka, Odegard or ESR are giving the forwards much to work with. We saw Auba struggle to get goals and we see the same with Laca. Laca does a bit more in dropping back and helping the attack but when you have five midfielders operating that shouldn’t be the lone strikers job. He should be playing tip of the spear.
As the season gets into the final few games this will matter. The teams we are competing with for fourth have Ronaldo and Kane leading the line. They will get those clutch goals while we may not. A couple of draws here and there could doom us. I think we have left ourselves very exposed in this regard.
Yes no doubt we’re better defensively, but then he is a defensive manager, going forward we’re ok but we do make hard work of it sometimes, we get through against weaker teams but in harder games chances are much harder to come by.
The away Wolves games was a good example where we wouldn’t have scored if not for a bit of a goalkeeping error.
I remember RVPs golden season where he dragged us to fourth alone with his goals. He’d drop back, kinda like Laca, let players like Theo overlap and then drift back in to finish off the return service. Problem is Laca doesn’t have his quality nor is he getting the ball played back in the right space. We are depending on Martinelli,ESR and Saka getting a run on the opposition for goals. We may not be that fortunate for too long. Even this weekend i thought we were quite lucky to be getting those two goals. We were not particularly incisive or penetrative and it was poor goal keeping in my mind for the first goal and a gem of a strike for the second.