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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:37 am

ag6789 wrote:How can you say manager not motivated, when you continuously concede after taking the lead for at least a couple of months?
It can't be the manager tells them to concede and draw an astounding number of matches, that too against very winnable opposition.
When these same players can beat or dominate teams like ManCity, PSV, Pool, and of course Real Madrid, keeps giving up points against the likes of Everton, Palace, WH, Fulham, Brentford and on and on.
Just , doesn't concentrate enough against small teams. Lapse of concentration against easy opposition... that's the only reason. Or in other words they tend to take the small teams lightly.
This bunch is the most frustrating to watch, at least for this season.

It has to be the manager. We all know the players are micro managed, we also know if you don't do what Arteta says you get booted out. None of the players look like they have downed tools, it looks like what they are being asked to do doesn't suit them at times.

Its no freekin coincidence that when the players play with a style that leverages their counter attacking ability, when we have runners and over lapping runs, we look devastating. We were incredible across the 2 Real Madrid legs.

Unless the players have downed tools you CANNOT blame the players, they are doing the best they can do in that circumstance. The manager is supposed to motivate, the captain is supposed to motivate on the pitch. If the captain isn't motivating he is the wrong choice to be captain.

Its difficult to be motivated when the system sucks half of your game away or if you are told to operate using a small subset of your tools. Micromanagement. Buck stops with the manager, thats why he gets paid the big bucks, this is a squad he hand picked and nurtured.

Suggesting the players are to blame is nonsense.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby ag6789 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:38 pm

How come the players do perfectly well up to the 65th min and then ' play like teenagers ' , until the the end?
So, Arteta tells them to become teenagers again after 65th min?
Resulting in conceding and eventually drawing perfectly winnable games?
Thereby handing the PL on a platter to Pool!!
Then, Arteta is a Pool agent, and should be sacked On Sight! Should be prosecuted too!
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Goonerfromafrica » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:58 pm

ag6789 wrote:How come the players do perfectly well up to the 65th min and then ' play like teenagers ' , until the the end?
So, Arteta tells them to become teenagers again after 65th min?
Resulting in conceding and eventually drawing perfectly winnable games?
Thereby handing the PL on a platter to Pool!!
Then, Arteta is a Pool agent, and should be sacked On Sight! Should be prosecuted too!


Well, for one, he could improve his game management. Had we subbed Tierney and Nwaneri on earlier last night we would have held on, I am sure of it. We are at the end of a long season, players legs are weak not to mention the mental effects of tiredness, evidenced by Saliba, Ode, and Raya’s cock up.

His constant operation from a point of fear about subbing his best players has cost us on many occasions, and has also cost the development of much of our second string
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:02 pm

ag6789 wrote:How come the players do perfectly well up to the 65th min and then ' play like teenagers ' , until the the end?
So, Arteta tells them to become teenagers again after 65th min?
Resulting in conceding and eventually drawing perfectly winnable games?
Thereby handing the PL on a platter to Pool!!
Then, Arteta is a Pool agent, and should be sacked On Sight! Should be prosecuted too!

Because sometimes its fine lines.

Saliba has made a couple of horrendous mistakes in recent games, but look at his game, sometimes he will do stuff and get away with it, people will say class defending - but he took a risk and got away with it.

He didn't get away with it a couple of times. It has nothing to do with being a teenager, sometimes we get immensely lucky, it happens, sometimes we dont.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:12 pm

Slot goes ahead by 12 points with a game in hand. Humiliating for fanboys who said managers need time and their own players.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Nuggets » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:14 pm

swipe right wrote:Slot goes ahead by 12 points with a game in hand. Humiliating for fanboys who said managers need time and their own players.

.....and they are still around.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:11 pm

Livwrpool deserve the title, but we should have pushed them closer.

We always miss opportunities. Half-arsed and off the boil.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Apr 27, 2025 5:18 pm

I'll say this for Arteta, he's realized right at the death that he should have focused on the cups instead trying to finally get one over Pep. A squad of early 20s players who haven't won big trophies won't be able to handle doing it over a 9 month, 38 matchday season. The league was dusted 5 months ago, Pool have pulled even further ahead at 15 pts now.

PSG are very beatable, and if Inter somehow do the impossible and beat Barca, we have a somewhat winnable final to look forward to.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby Ach » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:06 pm

So Tuchel wins the CL with Chelsea within months of coming in

Slot wins the title in his first season

Arteta 5 years on......
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:59 pm

Trust the process. Said no winning team ever.
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby alexafc12 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:17 am

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:I'll say this for Arteta, he's realized right at the death that he should have focused on the cups instead trying to finally get one over Pep. A squad of early 20s players who haven't won big trophies won't be able to handle doing it over a 9 month, 38 matchday season. The league was dusted 5 months ago, Pool have pulled even further ahead at 15 pts now.

PSG are very beatable, and if Inter somehow do the impossible and beat Barca, we have a somewhat winnable final to look forward to.


We conceded the title when we started the season with even fewer first team players than last - even after using the excuse we were short on numbers last season

To add insult to injury , the priority was a striker and a winger. We brought in a washed up Sterling on loan and got rid of Nketiah and Nelson.

We then did nothing in January.

The club conceded defeat in August.

Unforgivable.

CL is a must win otherwise it's another trophyless season
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:25 am

Highbury Hillbilly wrote:I'll say this for Arteta, he's realized right at the death that he should have focused on the cups instead trying to finally get one over Pep. A squad of early 20s players who haven't won big trophies won't be able to handle doing it over a 9 month, 38 matchday season. The league was dusted 5 months ago, Pool have pulled even further ahead at 15 pts now.

PSG are very beatable, and if Inter somehow do the impossible and beat Barca, we have a somewhat winnable final to look forward to.

15 pts is a f***ing disgrace !
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:26 am

swipe right wrote:Trust the process. Said no winning team ever.

SAF probably said it to Man U, luckily they listened to him. But I take your point
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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby theHotHead » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:27 am

alexafc12 wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:I'll say this for Arteta, he's realized right at the death that he should have focused on the cups instead trying to finally get one over Pep. A squad of early 20s players who haven't won big trophies won't be able to handle doing it over a 9 month, 38 matchday season. The league was dusted 5 months ago, Pool have pulled even further ahead at 15 pts now.

PSG are very beatable, and if Inter somehow do the impossible and beat Barca, we have a somewhat winnable final to look forward to.


We conceded the title when we started the season with even fewer first team players than last - even after using the excuse we were short on numbers last season

To add insult to injury , the priority was a striker and a winger. We brought in a washed up Sterling on loan and got rid of Nketiah and Nelson.

We then did nothing in January.

The club conceded defeat in August.

Unforgivable.

CL is a must win otherwise it's another trophyless season

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Re: Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

Postby swipe right » Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:39 am

How many more seasons should we give him, fanboys?
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