Mikel Arteta, First-Team Manager

[theHotHead]

Hi

Bigging up three kids two of whom are from the academy resigning is sad.

Three world class players signed up.
Massive positive for the club and Arteta certainly played a role in it.
If you are not excited about those 3 players committing their futures to the club then you really haven't got much interest in Arsenal.

You forgot Balogen. Another worldie in the making. Arteta really has no excuse now with all this world class talent. Top of the table by Christmas or out.

Don't worry he will find one.

Discussing the positives about our football club is not about finding excuses for Arteta.
At some point you will just have to accept that not all Arsenal fans want to constantly moan.

Some obviously do though.

And boy do they.

And some have some rose tinted glasses on.

And boy are they thick glasses.

They are not tinted either its a solid rose colour.

[theHotHead]

At the end of the day only one man can solve this and that is Arteta.

If he lets us play good football with a good style of play and game plan and we win games, every fan will be happy.

But if he continues his bumbling, bad tactics and not buying good players, when we lose its going to be all down to him and his management team.

He's been backed by Stan, he's got the players he's asking for, now he must come up with the goods.

No point moaning at people to support him, its up to him to prove himself.

If he fails it will be Ozil's fault no doubt.

[jayramfootball]

Hi

Bigging up three kids two of whom are from the academy resigning is sad.

Three world class players signed up.
Massive positive for the club and Arteta certainly played a role in it.
If you are not excited about those 3 players committing their futures to the club then you really haven't got much interest in Arsenal.

You forgot Balogen. Another worldie in the making. Arteta really has no excuse now with all this world class talent. Top of the table by Christmas or out.

Don't worry he will find one.

Discussing the positives about our football club is not about finding excuses for Arteta.
At some point you will just have to accept that not all Arsenal fans want to constantly moan.

Some obviously do though.

And boy do they.

And some have some rose tinted glasses on.

And boy are they thick glasses.

They are not tinted either its a solid rose colour.

Nah, most fans can see the issues and the positives - to those intent on pretending everything is crap, it just seems like the majority are wearing rose-tinted glasses.

[theHotHead]

At the end of the day only one man can solve this and that is Arteta.

If he lets us play good football with a good style of play and game plan and we win games, every fan will be happy.

But if he continues his bumbling, bad tactics and not buying good players, when we lose its going to be all down to him and his management team.

He's been backed by Stan, he's got the players he's asking for, now he must come up with the goods.

No point moaning at people to support him, its up to him to prove himself.

I agree.
Hopefully, the 'everything is totally sh*t' theme can stop until he's actually been given a chance to prove himself!

Has he not had the chance to prove himself then?

We're stuck with him, so we have to hope he comes good.

DG nails it, but Nuggets is right…..after all , how long does anyone need to prove themselves!

That is the big question, its like how long is a piece of string.

Depends, I think.
Any repeat of the total collapse around Nov/Dec last year would be reason to conclude he has to go.
That run ruined our season.
Outside of that, if we're not in the top 6 and touching distance of top 4 at a minimum by Christmas then we should move on from Arteta.
But with no pre-reason and in the midst of Covid, no fans, impact on transfers, etc... concluding now for a rookie manager in his first 18 months would not be sensible, especially as there were clear signs in the last 5 months of the season that we are making pretty good progress.

No thats far too much of a long leash!! If by Christmas we are not comfortably in the top 6 he needs to go! Why should we wait for another collapse before we sack him?!!

[jayramfootball]

At the end of the day only one man can solve this and that is Arteta.

If he lets us play good football with a good style of play and game plan and we win games, every fan will be happy.

But if he continues his bumbling, bad tactics and not buying good players, when we lose its going to be all down to him and his management team.

He's been backed by Stan, he's got the players he's asking for, now he must come up with the goods.

No point moaning at people to support him, its up to him to prove himself.

I agree.
Hopefully, the 'everything is totally sh*t' theme can stop until he's actually been given a chance to prove himself!

Has he not had the chance to prove himself then?

We're stuck with him, so we have to hope he comes good.

DG nails it, but Nuggets is right…..after all , how long does anyone need to prove themselves!

That is the big question, its like how long is a piece of string.

Depends, I think.
Any repeat of the total collapse around Nov/Dec last year would be reason to conclude he has to go.
That run ruined our season.
Outside of that, if we're not in the top 6 and touching distance of top 4 at a minimum by Christmas then we should move on from Arteta.
But with no pre-reason and in the midst of Covid, no fans, impact on transfers, etc... concluding now for a rookie manager in his first 18 months would not be sensible, especially as there were clear signs in the last 5 months of the season that we are making pretty good progress.

No thats far too much of a long leash!! If by Christmas we are not comfortably in the top 6 he needs to go! Why should we wait for another collapse before we sack him?!!

If we're in the top 6 and within touching distance of the top 4, means the season is very much alive.
We can't control how well the other teams do in 7th, 8th, 9th.
In your scenario, we might be 2nd but only 3 or 4 points ahead of 7th - so sack him because we might collapse. That would be totally stupid.
Last year I think Chelsea were only 3 points from top 4 at Christmas, but they were 8th.

[Arsenal Tone]

At the end of the day only one man can solve this and that is Arteta.

If he lets us play good football with a good style of play and game plan and we win games, every fan will be happy.

But if he continues his bumbling, bad tactics and not buying good players, when we lose its going to be all down to him and his management team.

He's been backed by Stan, he's got the players he's asking for, now he must come up with the goods.

No point moaning at people to support him, its up to him to prove himself.

I agree.
Hopefully, the 'everything is totally sh*t' theme can stop until he's actually been given a chance to prove himself!

Has he not had the chance to prove himself then?

We're stuck with him, so we have to hope he comes good.

DG nails it, but Nuggets is right…..after all , how long does anyone need to prove themselves!

That is the big question, its like how long is a piece of string.

Depends, I think.
Any repeat of the total collapse around Nov/Dec last year would be reason to conclude he has to go.
That run ruined our season.
Outside of that, if we're not in the top 6 and touching distance of top 4 at a minimum by Christmas then we should move on from Arteta.
But with no pre-reason and in the midst of Covid, no fans, impact on transfers, etc... concluding now for a rookie manager in his first 18 months would not be sensible, especially as there were clear signs in the last 5 months of the season that we are making pretty good progress.

No thats far too much of a long leash!! If by Christmas we are not comfortably in the top 6 he needs to go! Why should we wait for another collapse before we sack him?!!

I'd say end of october/start of november. We need to hit the ground running when the season starts.

[jayramfootball]

At the end of the day only one man can solve this and that is Arteta.

If he lets us play good football with a good style of play and game plan and we win games, every fan will be happy.

But if he continues his bumbling, bad tactics and not buying good players, when we lose its going to be all down to him and his management team.

He's been backed by Stan, he's got the players he's asking for, now he must come up with the goods.

No point moaning at people to support him, its up to him to prove himself.

I agree.
Hopefully, the 'everything is totally sh*t' theme can stop until he's actually been given a chance to prove himself!

Has he not had the chance to prove himself then?

We're stuck with him, so we have to hope he comes good.

DG nails it, but Nuggets is right…..after all , how long does anyone need to prove themselves!

That is the big question, its like how long is a piece of string.

Depends, I think.
Any repeat of the total collapse around Nov/Dec last year would be reason to conclude he has to go.
That run ruined our season.
Outside of that, if we're not in the top 6 and touching distance of top 4 at a minimum by Christmas then we should move on from Arteta.
But with no pre-reason and in the midst of Covid, no fans, impact on transfers, etc... concluding now for a rookie manager in his first 18 months would not be sensible, especially as there were clear signs in the last 5 months of the season that we are making pretty good progress.

No thats far too much of a long leash!! If by Christmas we are not comfortably in the top 6 he needs to go! Why should we wait for another collapse before we sack him?!!

I'd say end of october/start of november. We need to hit the ground running when the season starts.

That's way too early.
If we're 8th at the end of October, it is not much of a problem unless we're adrift.
Last year 8th place was 2pts off top 4 and 4 pts off the top of the table.
Needs until Christmas - unless it's a complete disaster over the first couple months.

[Rockape]

Well, regardless of the exact details of how long he has left to prove himself, I am hoping the Club are already sounding out potential replacements for him. That would be good business management.

[jayramfootball]

Well, regardless of the exact details of how long he has left to prove himself, I am hoping the Club are already sounding out potential replacements for him. That would be good business management.

...if something like that leaks it's not good business management at all. It's destructive.

[Nuggets]

Well, regardless of the exact details of how long he has left to prove himself, I am hoping the Club are already sounding out potential replacements for him. That would be good business management.

...if something like that leaks it's not good business management at all. It's destructive.

It's business, they will surely have somebody lined up when / if they get rid of him.

[jayramfootball]

Well, regardless of the exact details of how long he has left to prove himself, I am hoping the Club are already sounding out potential replacements for him. That would be good business management.

...if something like that leaks it's not good business management at all. It's destructive.

It's business, they will surely have somebody lined up when / if they get rid of him.

You don't go out into the market for someone else's job, openly or covertly if you have someone in place that you are happy with.
Now if they HAVE decided he is in a last chance saloon, then yeah... but I don't think he's anywhere even close to that position with the board.

[Goonerz]

I think people need to calm their skins down. Arteta is here for at least another half season. You’ve still got fans calling for him to be sacked before the season has even started.

[theHotHead]

Alas I think Jay is right on this, they have backed their manager thus far ..... but a piece of me says they have a contingency plan if it goes tits up.

[theHotHead]

I think people need to calm their skins down. Arteta is here for at least another half season. You’ve still got fans calling for him to be sacked before the season has even started.

You're damn skippy !! I am one of them !

[Ach]

And rightly so

Shocking season followed by a summer of hilarity