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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:41 pm
by Va-Va-Voom
Massa wrote:
Also, that's 2 wins in 9 without our main man.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:43 pm
by Santi
well we've had 3 wins since 16th dec so....

add to that decent draws against Liverpool and Chelsea.

and there's only been 8 games since the Southampton game where he last played.

P8
W3
D4
L1 (today where he wouldn't have played anyway).

:dontknow:

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:45 pm
by Va-Va-Voom
Mesüt wrote:well we've had 3 wins since 16th dec so....

add to that decent draws against Liverpool and Chelsea.


You yourself said Ramsey has been our most consistently good player this season, don't know why you're trying to act like he isn't missed.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:47 pm
by GoonerAlexandre
Massa wrote:GA, just a tip mate, learn how to construct a proper argument. Maybe you will be taken more seriously

Here's the argument properly constructed then. One season wonder Alli has more goals in 3 seasons in the Premier League than Ramsey has here in double the number of games and seasons. Alli also has more goals this season in the League, when he's had a horrific season, compared to his standards. While Ramsey has supposedly been consistently good, and back to his best.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:48 pm
by Santi
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Mesüt wrote:well we've had 3 wins since 16th dec so....

add to that decent draws against Liverpool and Chelsea.


You yourself said Ramsey has been our most consistently good player this season, don't know why you're trying to act like he isn't missed.


Just correcting incorrect statements. Added more information as well.

And he was contributing goals and assists yes. Don't think u can say he's missed when we've played a whole 8 games without him n drawn vs 2 top 6 teams in that period and won 3 games.

Couple of shit results but guess what...we've had them with him in the team too.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:03 pm
by KG3
We need to revamp the midfield once Ozil leaves at the end of the season, Xhaka needs to moved on and we need a solid CDM to play alongside Ramsey and CM that can dictate the tempo like Cazorla in a classic 4-3-3 and our midfield trio will go back to being one of the best in the league.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:20 pm
by StLGooner
KG3 wrote:We need to revamp the midfield once Ozil leaves at the end of the season, Xhaka needs to moved on and we need a solid CDM to play alongside Ramsey and CM that can dictate the tempo like Cazorla in a classic 4-3-3 and our midfield trio will go back to being one of the best in the league.



Shit we need to replace Ramsey too, or at least get in someone better and he can go to the bench.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:15 pm
by Goonerz
KG3 wrote:We need to revamp the midfield once Ozil leaves at the end of the season, Xhaka needs to moved on and we need a solid CDM to play alongside Ramsey and CM that can dictate the tempo like Cazorla in a classic 4-3-3 and our midfield trio will go back to being one of the best in the league.

Sorry but Ramsey is a poor standard CM compared to what we have been blessed with over the wenger years. Poor technically, first touch as good as my 7 year old nephew. Positionally clueless, defensively an aware but good at chasing the ball back. Good at scoring a goal here and there every after 8 or so games etc.. compare him to the good CMs and attacking midfielders we have had under wenger.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:50 pm
by EliteKiller
Ramsey over Dele .... hmmmmm

At 21 Ramsey had played 68 EPL games and scored 6 goals

At 21 Dele has played 91 EPL games and scored 33 goals

Nobody knows how Dele's career will go but when you consider that at 27 Ramsey has played 225 EPL games and still only got 32 goals ..... pretty sure I know which one is doing better at the moment ....

FYI - Lampard at 21 had played 77 games and got 10 goals ..... ended up with 127 top flight goals, now that's a big number but I would have a small wager that Dele gets pretty close ... especially if he joins a top side .....

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:27 pm
by greengoonerie
I don't give a shit about Alli Vs Ramsey TBH.

Where will JW fit in when Ozil is gone?

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:37 pm
by GoonerAlexandre
EliteKiller wrote:Ramsey over Dele .... hmmmmm

At 21 Ramsey had played 68 EPL games and scored 6 goals

At 21 Dele has played 91 EPL games and scored 33 goals

Nobody knows how Dele's career will go but when you consider that at 27 Ramsey has played 225 EPL games and still only got 32 goals ..... pretty sure I know which one is doing better at the moment ....

FYI - Lampard at 21 had played 77 games and got 10 goals ..... ended up with 127 top flight goals, now that's a big number but I would have a small wager that Dele gets pretty close ... especially if he joins a top side .....

Exactly, they play exactly the same role and Alli already has more goals and around 10 less assists. Unbelievable really how much better Alli has done. And his team is not better than ours man to man, so that's nowhere near an excuse, it's Alli who elevates the team, not the other way around. When you consider Alli is an average English midfielder who only scores goals, then you realise just how shit Ramsey is because he doesn't even do that

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:50 pm
by Arsene Nose
We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:33 pm
by Santi
Arsene Nose wrote:We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?




more than 6 games - details on last page

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:15 pm
by SuperJackyWilshere
Arsene Nose wrote:We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?


Only won 3 out of 6 before he got injured so no, not really a coincidence.

Forgot about Rambo since Jacks return to be honest. Will be a decent option to have on the bench now.

Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:41 pm
by Luzh 22
SuperJackyWilshere wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?


Only won 3 out of 6 before he got injured so no, not really a coincidence.

Forgot about Rambo since Jacks return to be honest. Will be a decent option to have on the bench now.


LOL he'll bench Jack, just because Wenger.