by Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:28 pm
by Phil71 » Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:40 pm
by jayramfootball » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:15 am
hs6bx wrote:Anyone looking forward to champs league tonight? Get chance to see the 31 Year old Robert Lewandowski.
He has a contract until 2023 and gets paid 20m euros per year. Seems Bayern are even more silly than arsenal according to one idiots logic (who doesn’t understand the game of football). Whoops.
Get this as well... whilst playing for Dortmund
Lewandowski - 131 games and 74 goals
Auba - 144 games and 98 goals.
Will let you guys do the math.
(Obviously we all know that both players are class, but there is one little computer hermit who doesn’t understand football and needs some more bait because he’s very hungry)
by jayramfootball » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:26 am
StockGooner wrote:I suppose HH and Jay, let's take this £60-£80m budget, and you're providing Salah as an example. Great ona and can't repute it. Timo Werner? Sure, go for it.
What I don't trust is Arsenal themselves to find these players. We have Kia as chief scout, so will we get a Salah? Or a Mane? Or a Martial even?
I think that's a valid question to raise
by jayramfootball » Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:29 am
hs6bx wrote:themessiah wrote:hs6bx wrote:Phil71 wrote:That Leonardo Da Vinci fella didn't half do some poor paintings.
Denzel Washington has made some terrible films
Tbf Been on a Denzel kick lately. Still think it's crazy that he didn't get an Oscar for Malcolm X or Philadelphia. The former was the closest representation of a book I think I've ever seen in a movie.
Yeah fair one. I think I’ve seen man on fire about 20 times. Absolute belter!
by jayramfootball » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:47 pm
thevisualiser wrote:jayramfootball wrote:thevisualiser wrote:Anything other than renewing Auba contract is the wrong idea. I couldn't fathom how anybody could support moving him on and signing different players to try and facilitate different outcomes on the pitch.
His age is not a problem. The lack of international football, his professionalism and constant advances in footballing science, nutrition and whatnot means you are likely to get at the very least 2 good years out of a 3 year deal for Aubameyang and that is justification enough to renew his contract.
I'd back him to score 20+ goals in the next two league campaigns and that would make his renewal a resounding success.
Too many Twitter/stat nerds these days want to go down the opposite route to prove their superior understanding of the game but it really doesn't work like that.
Wouldn't we want to 'faciltate different outcomes on the pitch'?
I'd hope we do, considering our league position and the lack of goals overall as a team.
Auba got 20+ goals in the last 2 years - so I am not sure why him scoring 20+ for the next 2 years would be a "resounding success".
It would depend on what we did as a team - not one player.
Signing Auba offers nothing new to where we are now, except maybe worse than we are now as Auba is 31.
Selling Auba puts us in a position of needing to replace him when there are greater priorities in the squad right now. Selling Laczette who is 29 and has 2 years left on his deal is a far more logical approach. He’s likely to hold more value in the market due to age and length of time remaining on his contract. His wage demands are also likely to be lower than what you imagine Auba will be angling for on his final big deal.
Our currently position is a direct result of years of poor squad building, holding onto Wenger for too long and subsequently hiring Emery to lead the squad. We have an unbalanced squad and we also have a tonne of inexperienced youngsters who have made plenty of appearances for us. Selling the one elite and experienced attacker we have seems nonsensical at this stage.
Aubameyang cannot command a high transfer fee due to age and length of time remaining on contract (as well as his obvious wish to be paid handsomely for his final big deal). So to sell him for a low fee and then worry about replacing his goals by hedging our bets on new prospects and a change in system is just a huge gamble.
Clubs rebuild all the time, they change systems and bring in new players but it doesn’t always mean you have to get rid of existing players. You can hold onto individuals like Aubameyang and bring in a better quality of player to play around them it’s that simple.
by DiamondGooner » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:12 pm
by Santi » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:14 pm
by DiamondGooner » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:41 pm
Santi wrote:The problem was the overspending not the structure of the deal. Most transfers these days are done in instalments but nice try.
by jayramfootball » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:58 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:The same Pepe deal JayRam was championing to attempt (and I mean failed attempt) to replace Auba is the one so bad that its currently under investigation by Arsenal and its likely why Raul was fired.
Well done JayRam another L.
You couldn't make it up, you've been using the Pepe deal as a cornerstone of your argument and yet that same deal has rocked the club and has caused a scandal.
I'm not going to rehash the argument because as I said those deals are only even possible if the selling club allow it anyway and it seems like in this case, they've allowed it due to what amounts to possible bribes and at the least well over paid.
This had to be noted, the irony was to good.
by jayramfootball » Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:01 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Santi wrote:The problem was the overspending not the structure of the deal. Most transfers these days are done in instalments but nice try.
This deal got done because we over paid but it looked good up front because of little out lay so the devil was in the detail.
There's no nice try about it, this is the deal he cited and the issue is this .............
When you have competition for a high profile player and you win by using a lay away fkin plan then your obviously screwing yourself in some way shape or form.
Yes installment deals are used but as people pointed out to JayRam every deal is different and deals like this done for high profile players are not the same as one done for lets say .... AMN.
Worse still a 20 goal proven striker will have CL clubs offering more up front money if not all up front so that was my whole point, it'd be worse competition than we had for Pepe i.e its not going to happen we wouldn't win the transfer unless we vastly over paid.
The fact that AFC had to do an investigation and fire their own Head of Football says it all.
by DiamondGooner » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:08 pm
by Losmeister » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:11 pm
by Losmeister » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:13 pm
by hs6bx » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:20 pm