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Postby EliteKiller » Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:39 am

Spurs started a man short in midfield - we capitalized - in the second half they made the change and the game became very even. Brighton played with a three man midfield and we never got going, once again leaving Auba isolated ... it's going to be the same unless we play mug managers like Spurs every week.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Santi » Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:21 pm

a mug manager who many claimed was better than mikel lol
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:20 am

Santi wrote:a mug manager who many claimed was better than mikel lol

He is better than Mikel.

With far worse players and much less money at his disposal, in his first full season in the PRem Wolves finished 7th and qualified for Europe. In Arteta's first full season in the Prem he finished 8th and didn't qualify for Europe. Considering the wealth at Arsenal's disposal that to me is like a net 2nd place Prem finish to Arsenal's 8th. His next season was another 7th place finish and a run to EL QF.

Then you have to look at his purchases at Wolves, the number of quality players he brought in, his recruitment has been exceptional. Arteta has some way to go to out-perform NES.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:51 pm

Santi wrote:a mug manager who many claimed was better than mikel lol


Spurs' 8th choice manager, who has no input on transfers, and whose star striker didn't show up for training for a week.

It was a low bar for Arteta to clear, so we're all glad he's managed it.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby DiamondGooner » Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:48 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Santi wrote:a mug manager who many claimed was better than mikel lol

He is better than Mikel.

With far worse players and much less money at his disposal, in his first full season in the PRem Wolves finished 7th and qualified for Europe. In Arteta's first full season in the Prem he finished 8th and didn't qualify for Europe. Considering the wealth at Arsenal's disposal that to me is like a net 2nd place Prem finish to Arsenal's 8th. His next season was another 7th place finish and a run to EL QF.

Then you have to look at his purchases at Wolves, the number of quality players he brought in, his recruitment has been exceptional. Arteta has some way to go to out-perform NES.


Yeah I think the clearest way to sum that up is .............

Nuno over achieved with what he had at Wolves and Arteta has under achieved with what he has at Arsenal.

I don't see how that's a win for Arteta?

Nuno has just started at Spurs and walked right into the drama of his best player trying to run away and refusing to play, I'm sure they'll settle but tbh it might not be a good fit for him players wise.
It happens, look at Brendan Rogers at Liverpool and now look at him with a poorer but better performing Leicester.

Some managers are built to handle the ego's and more stylish play of football and some are more suited to manage players who are honest, hard working guys and a club that doesn't mind defensive / counter football.

I think Unai Emery is a also a clear example of that, he's settled right in at Villarreal.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Power n Glory » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:20 pm

7 goals so far this season. He's looking sharp plus some good final passes to set players up. Nice assist for Smith Rowe yesterday. Maybe Arteta will stick with playing both Auba and Laca through the middle this season. No point in sacrificing either at this point. But we'll need to think of an alternative when he's off to the AFCON this season.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:23 pm

His work rate this year has been spot on in most every game he has played.
No complaints with him this year overall.
Definitely better on the left too so hope he stays there and drifts in.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Santi » Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:25 pm

Yep fair fucks his scoring form appears to be back but the main thing is he’s been working harder in most games. Shows he’s got his head back into it and whatever was going on last season is in the past.

Still rate our best chances with him out left or playing off Laca in some way. They haven’t been in sync for 12 months but back in the day they could be electric together and it’d be madness not to try and bring that back.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:11 pm

All it was proved yesterday is what I've been saying for ages and before the game even started yesterday.

Auba needs a partner up front.

Auba is not a proper CF like Giroud or Lukaku, he's a striker, he needs a striking partner and Laca is that guy in our team right now.

If we can get the Laca and Auba show back on track properly it's going to benefit our team greatly and our chances of winning, one of them if not both is always likely to score and they have good chemistry and tekkers.

You could see the moment we swapped Laca for Odegaard the difference, Ode is CAM so he naturally wants to pick up the ball, slow the game down a bit, look for and pick a pass.

Laca gets the ball turns and goes for goal, either lays it off and then runs in the box or carries the ball aggressively toward goal to join Auba as a striker .......... that is what we need.

It pins the opposition back and makes them more fearful taking pressure off our defence, if teams don't respect us and only have Auba as a goal threat in isolation then they'll pour it on us.

Must play 2 up front for the rest of the season, Liverpool plays 3 ffs.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:12 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:All it was proved yesterday is what I've been saying for ages and before the game even started yesterday.

Auba needs a partner up front.

Auba is not a proper CF like Giroud or Lukaku, he's a striker, he needs a striking partner and Laca is that guy in our team right now.

If we can get the Laca and Auba show back on track properly it's going to benefit our team greatly and our chances of winning, one of them if not both is always likely to score and they have good chemistry and tekkers.

You could see the moment we swapped Laca for Odegaard the difference, Ode is CAM so he naturally wants to pick up the ball, slow the game down a bit, look for and pick a pass.

Laca gets the ball turns and goes for goal, either lays it off and then runs in the box or carries the ball aggressively toward goal to join Auba as a striker .......... that is what we need.

It pins the opposition back and makes them more fearful taking pressure off our defence, if teams don't respect us and only have Auba as a goal threat in isolation then they'll pour it on us.

Must play 2 up front for the rest of the season, Liverpool plays 3 ffs.


I don't think we 'must' play 2 up top - depends on the game.
Auba played really well against Spurs too and also in a couple of other games this year - they were with one up top.
Auba plays well when he uses the key talent that he has - working off the ball to find space intelligently.
His problem last year was that he wasn't working hard enough.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:30 am

Power n Glory wrote:7 goals so far this season. He's looking sharp plus some good final passes to set players up. Nice assist for Smith Rowe yesterday. Maybe Arteta will stick with playing both Auba and Laca through the middle this season. No point in sacrificing either at this point. But we'll need to think of an alternative when he's off to the AFCON this season.

To be honest when Auba goes to the ACON I would simply put Martinelli in to replace him and continue with 2 up top, that would suit Laca and the running in behind defence of Martinelli could prove deadly
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:43 am

Good analysis DG :clap:

There are umpteen ways to implement a formation, we have been playing 1 up top but its easy to defend because our 2 wide men that are supposed to support Auba often start so deep the defence has nothing to worry about. The only thrust we get from the middle is from ESR but thats usually only from a counter attack. Odegaard gives little to no thrust. So opposing teams defence have a relatively easy day, the only worry coming from a counter attack.

2 up top means a defence automatically has something more to think about, not least because often a full back will stay back to ensure they are not left with a 2 vs 2. When Man City play a 3 up top their wide forwards start forward, thats why it stretches opposing teams defences. 1 up top the way we play is dead.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:55 am

theHotHead wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:7 goals so far this season. He's looking sharp plus some good final passes to set players up. Nice assist for Smith Rowe yesterday. Maybe Arteta will stick with playing both Auba and Laca through the middle this season. No point in sacrificing either at this point. But we'll need to think of an alternative when he's off to the AFCON this season.

To be honest when Auba goes to the ACON I would simply put Martinelli in to replace him and continue with 2 up top, that would suit Laca and the running in behind defence of Martinelli could prove deadly

But the mister don’t like Martinelli. And we know the mister always gets what the mister wants.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:10 pm

Our best goalscoring period post Wenger was when Auba and Laca started up top in the 18/19 season.

Arteta's like a startup that spends a bunch of money reinventing the wheel only to come to the same way of doing things as their predexessor.

We didn't need his endless tinkering, we just needed to improve the back line and get some creative mids in.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:43 pm

Agree last 4x posts.

Its not rocket science guys as we all know, Liverpool play with 3 up front, Mane, Salah and Firmino that's what makes them dangerous even against deeper, richer squads.

I don't think its too much to ask for at least two strikers, especially as Laca is doing a dual job of a no10 and a CF.

Lets hope for our sakes Arteta has realised this ......... but I won't hold my breath.
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