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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:51 am

Sims wrote:People who’d rather sell Auba than Laca haven’t got a clue


He's going into the last 2yrs of his contract. If he gets to the end of next season and hasn't signed we're in trouble.
Have you not learned from the idiocy of the past? If not, you are as dumb as Wenger.

If he signs an extension, fine. If not, sell.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:05 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Sims wrote:People who’d rather sell Auba than Laca haven’t got a clue


Yeah because a 30 year old with a 2yr contract is better than a 28 year old with a 3yr contract ... yup got that


Auba scores 30 goals and would extend if you put an offer on the table

You’re looking at Callum Wilson/Giroud numbers with Laca

Wouldn’t sell either, but I’d rather sell Laca, and extend Auba’s contract if i had to choose between them

Auba will also age well, he’s rapid but he’s not as reliant on his pace as people believe. The reason he gets so many goals is because his intelligence off the ball gets him so many opportunities
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:40 am

Sims wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
Sims wrote:People who’d rather sell Auba than Laca haven’t got a clue


Yeah because a 30 year old with a 2yr contract is better than a 28 year old with a 3yr contract ... yup got that


Auba scores 30 goals and would extend if you put an offer on the table


..and if he does not?
Sell, obviously.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:06 am

I can’t imagine why he wouldn’t

This is the best it’s gonna get for him and we need his exact skillset
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:22 am

jayramfootball wrote:
Sims wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
Sims wrote:People who’d rather sell Auba than Laca haven’t got a clue


Yeah because a 30 year old with a 2yr contract is better than a 28 year old with a 3yr contract ... yup got that


Auba scores 30 goals and would extend if you put an offer on the table


..and if he does not?
Sell, obviously.


So hang on let's get this straight .... you're saying we should offer a player a massive contract extension, even though that player is over 30, so when his performance levels almost inevitably drop off we are stuck with his enormous wages and zero chance that any other club will be mug enough to take him .... why haven't we tried that before? what we have?

You are Arsene Wonger and I claim my fiver .....
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:31 am

Who says it has to be massive, just make it run til he’s 32/33, I’m fine with aging out a quality player like Auba

It’s the players who are 24/25 with two years left who are the danger. Auba’s main weapon is his elite nous of being in the right place at the right time - that doesn’t get any worse
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:51 am

EliteKiller wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Sims wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
Sims wrote:People who’d rather sell Auba than Laca haven’t got a clue


Yeah because a 30 year old with a 2yr contract is better than a 28 year old with a 3yr contract ... yup got that


Auba scores 30 goals and would extend if you put an offer on the table


..and if he does not?
Sell, obviously.


So hang on let's get this straight .... you're saying we should offer a player a massive contract extension, even though that player is over 30, so when his performance levels almost inevitably drop off we are stuck with his enormous wages and zero chance that any other club will be mug enough to take him .... why haven't we tried that before? what we have?

You are Arsene Wonger and I claim my fiver .....


3yr contract is fine.
Aubamayang is decent enough - not a world beater due to too many chances missed.
However, if we sold him and got a decent amount, I'd be fine with that, too.

Overall, meh.
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:05 pm

Sims wrote:Who says it has to be massive, just make it run til he’s 32/33, I’m fine with aging out a quality player like Auba

It’s the players who are 24/25 with two years left who are the danger. Auba’s main weapon is his elite nous of being in the right place at the right time - that doesn’t get any worse


It already is massive ... he's contracted for another 24 months at which time he will be 32 ... he's on 198k a week plus some fairly eye-watering bonuses ...

Arsenal replaced him with Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang whose contract details Der Spiegel also claim to have seen including a £2.26m Champions League bonus which he will allegedly receive despite Arsenal finishing sixth this season. Aubameyang will earn £198,000 a week, totaling £10.3m annually, with a £15.15m loyalty bonus payable over the next three years. He will earn £300,000 for getting a combined 25 goals and assists in a season and £50,000 for each match he starts that Arsenal win.

https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/fc-arsenal-zahlt-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-17-3-millionen-euro-treuepraemie-a-1207261.html
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:12 pm

Then we let that deal run

He’s a player we can afford to lose on a free given that we have no chance of getting anyone better during that time whilst having an inferior striker who we could also sell for a similar amount

No-one can replace his goals, we can however replace Laca with an adept back-up whilst getting in a great winger to help supply Auba as he is en route yet another golden boot
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby EliteKiller » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:34 pm

Sims wrote:Then we let that deal run

He’s a player we can afford to lose on a free given that we have no chance of getting anyone better during that time whilst having an inferior striker who we could also sell for a similar amount

No-one can replace his goals, we can however replace Laca with an adept back-up whilst getting in a great winger to help supply Auba as he is en route yet another golden boot


But this 'c'est la vie' thinking is why we're so utterly f***ked right now ....your saying we go another two years relying on a player who is over 30.

Let's do that so OK let's say that all goes well and he keeps on scoring allowing us to stay top six .... then what?

In two years time he will walk away and we will get nothing, as we know it's gone well and he kept on scoring - we will immediately need a 20+ goals a season striker call that 60m .... where's that coming from?

Or let's say it all goes badly wrong injury or loss of form then means we're stuck with a 15m a year salary and another over the hill player we have no chance of getting of the books - we will immediately need a 20+ goals a season striker call that 60m .... where's that coming from?

Either way good or bad what you're saying is that we should plan to have a 60m hole in our squad for 2021 .... just as we've ended up with a 60m hole in our midfield for 2019.

How on earth does that even begin to make sense?
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Sims » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:45 pm

Sell Laca instead
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Dejan » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:25 pm

Sims wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
Sims wrote:People who’d rather sell Auba than Laca haven’t got a clue


Yeah because a 30 year old with a 2yr contract is better than a 28 year old with a 3yr contract ... yup got that


Auba scores 30 goals and would extend if you put an offer on the table

You’re looking at Callum Wilson/Giroud numbers with Laca

Wouldn’t sell either, but I’d rather sell Laca, and extend Auba’s contract if i had to choose between them

Auba will also age well, he’s rapid but he’s not as reliant on his pace as people believe. The reason he gets so many goals is because his intelligence off the ball gets him so many opportunities
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby mel4 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:31 pm

It is pure madness that we want to sell Auba or even Laca. Reminds me of when we sold Cesc and Nasri and bought numpties like Martesecker, slow Arteta, Gervinho (I think) etc...
If we sell either Auba or Laca, it will be the same thing, that is buy bottom feeder players to appease fans and appear like we are signing good player.

If we can let Ramsey go for free, keep dross like Wilshere for so long, and persist with Xhaka, Elneny, and Mustafi, it is utter madness that we don't sell them but want to sell either Laca or Auba....what kind of stupid are we?


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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:57 pm

Selling him might also unsettle Laca
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Re: Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (14)

Postby alexafc12 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:34 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:Selling him might also unsettle Laca


Good point, and may well be the case.

Hence, the rationale for Unai requesting the board sell them both.

Understand that Unai has informed the board to sanction the sale of both Auba and Laca, which would generate enough funds for us to sign Zaha and still have money left over to sign two off: Gameiro, Negredo or Nolito to replace them.

Nketiah and the likely signing of Martinelli (post confirmation of Edu arrival) are seen as being able competition before challenging to start in a season or two.

As an extra, as widely reported, if Unai gets his wishes and Torreira is shipped out, we will likely turn our attention to Banega to complete the puzzle.
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