Santi wrote:His lack of effort in almost every game since signing his deal maybe?
Ah the old lack of effort since signing a new deal syndrome. That’s our go to excuse to explain everything nowadays.
by swipe right » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:28 am
Santi wrote:His lack of effort in almost every game since signing his deal maybe?
by Highbury Hillbilly » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:36 am
by Ach » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:19 am
swipe right wrote:Santi wrote:His lack of effort in almost every game since signing his deal maybe?
Ah the old lack of effort since signing a new deal syndrome. That’s our go to excuse to explain everything nowadays.
by Santi » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:26 pm
swipe right wrote:Santi wrote:His lack of effort in almost every game since signing his deal maybe?
Ah the old lack of effort since signing a new deal syndrome. That’s our go to excuse to explain everything nowadays.
by theHotHead » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
Power n Glory wrote:theHotHead wrote:If you look at Auba's last full season at Dortmund he scored 31 league goals. In that team he played with:
Ousmane Dembele, Christian Pulisic, Marco Reus, Mario Goetze, Shinji Kagawa and Andre Schurrle in an attacking sense. He hardly did the work himself.
Compare to a Vardy who does do a lot of the work himself as a lone striker.
Vardy is a similar service striker. He works hard but I don't see him working off crappy service, taking a ball from deep, dribbling through players and then smashing them in.
Would Vardy work better at Arsenal with Willock, Xhaka and Ceballos behind him?
by Power n Glory » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:19 pm
theHotHead wrote:Power n Glory wrote:theHotHead wrote:If you look at Auba's last full season at Dortmund he scored 31 league goals. In that team he played with:
Ousmane Dembele, Christian Pulisic, Marco Reus, Mario Goetze, Shinji Kagawa and Andre Schurrle in an attacking sense. He hardly did the work himself.
Compare to a Vardy who does do a lot of the work himself as a lone striker.
Vardy is a similar service striker. He works hard but I don't see him working off crappy service, taking a ball from deep, dribbling through players and then smashing them in.
Would Vardy work better at Arsenal with Willock, Xhaka and Ceballos behind him?
Bear in mind, Vardy does far more for the team than Auba does too. On the offensive front, there is no way you can compare Vardy to Auba. Vardy chases evetrything, makes selfless runs, its like chalk and cheese of the lone strikers, comparing Auba to Vardy.
by jayramfootball » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:24 am
aniym wrote:On the plus side, he is topping the chances created table. That still means something, right?
by theHotHead » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:34 pm
Power n Glory wrote:theHotHead wrote:Power n Glory wrote:theHotHead wrote:If you look at Auba's last full season at Dortmund he scored 31 league goals. In that team he played with:
Ousmane Dembele, Christian Pulisic, Marco Reus, Mario Goetze, Shinji Kagawa and Andre Schurrle in an attacking sense. He hardly did the work himself.
Compare to a Vardy who does do a lot of the work himself as a lone striker.
Vardy is a similar service striker. He works hard but I don't see him working off crappy service, taking a ball from deep, dribbling through players and then smashing them in.
Would Vardy work better at Arsenal with Willock, Xhaka and Ceballos behind him?
Bear in mind, Vardy does far more for the team than Auba does too. On the offensive front, there is no way you can compare Vardy to Auba. Vardy chases evetrything, makes selfless runs, its like chalk and cheese of the lone strikers, comparing Auba to Vardy.
But do you think he'd get that same level of service at Arsenal with Willock, Xhaka and Ceballos playing behind him? How long before that enthusiasm goes when he's making the runs and he's not getting the ball? How long before he gets pissed off watching the slow build up and endless passes backwards and sideways? You're still describing a striker that thrives off service. Managere know to play to Vardy's strengths. He's lethal on a counter attack. It's not the same as a striker that will come looking for the ball, dribble past a player or two, then bang one in the top corner when the opposing team has set up a low block.
Last player we had a player that would constantly score individual goals and feed off scraps was Alexis Sanchez. Pepe is probably the only player we have that can score a brilliant solo effort. Even RVP in his last couple of seasons turned into a traditional predator box striker. His movement was brilliant but he had the service.
by theHotHead » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:36 pm
jayramfootball wrote:aniym wrote:On the plus side, he is topping the chances created table. That still means something, right?
That's just because he has played every game.
Chances created per 90 minutes played is led by Ceballos closely followed by Nketiah.
Auba is 5th.
All of them are less than half of Ozil's worst season.
by jayramfootball » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:56 pm
theHotHead wrote:jayramfootball wrote:aniym wrote:On the plus side, he is topping the chances created table. That still means something, right?
That's just because he has played every game.
Chances created per 90 minutes played is led by Ceballos closely followed by Nketiah.
Auba is 5th.
All of them are less than half of Ozil's worst season.
but but but its a useless stat created to pad out Ozil's usefulness .....
by Arsenal Tone » Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:19 am
by thebigbangtheo » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:31 am
Ach wrote:swipe right wrote:Santi wrote:His lack of effort in almost every game since signing his deal maybe?
Ah the old lack of effort since signing a new deal syndrome. That’s our go to excuse to explain everything nowadays.
by jayramfootball » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:34 am
Tony Adams wrote:I think his issue is Laca's lack of game time. Auba needs someone up front to hold the ball up and lay it off to him. Laca is the only player we have who can do that. Unless Moller develops quickly a back up striker who can hold the ball up should be on our shopping list in the summer.
by Power n Glory » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:51 am
theHotHead wrote:jayramfootball wrote:aniym wrote:On the plus side, he is topping the chances created table. That still means something, right?
That's just because he has played every game.
Chances created per 90 minutes played is led by Ceballos closely followed by Nketiah.
Auba is 5th.
All of them are less than half of Ozil's worst season.
but but but its a useless stat created to pad out Ozil's usefulness .....
by jayramfootball » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:55 am
Power n Glory wrote:theHotHead wrote:jayramfootball wrote:aniym wrote:On the plus side, he is topping the chances created table. That still means something, right?
That's just because he has played every game.
Chances created per 90 minutes played is led by Ceballos closely followed by Nketiah.
Auba is 5th.
All of them are less than half of Ozil's worst season.
but but but its a useless stat created to pad out Ozil's usefulness .....
He has a point because I haven't heard anyone talk about Auba creating chances. He's being judged on goals and so he should be.