by Ach » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:32 pm
by Highbury Hillbilly » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:37 pm
by Salibatelli » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:29 pm
jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:What a disaster this summer has been so far, wasted 50 million on a CB who is unproven and probably not worth more than 25-30 million, signed a couple guys from weaker league who in reality won’t be ready and will only be squad players and on top of that have failed to get rid of pretty much all the players we were desperate to see the back off.
Personally I’d have brought back Saliba and maybe Mavropanos, signed someone like Aouar and possibly taken a punt on Camavinga or gone for Bissouma, probably taken a punt on Onana even though he’s been banned until October (which isn’t ideal) and maybe Aaron’s and Silva and maybe found another backup left back, Tavarez maybe ok
Then sold the likes of Xhaka, Willock, Bellerin, Lacazette, Willian, Kolasinac, Torreira, Nketiah, AMN.
What we’ve done has been shocking.
Rubbish
It's been a very smart window so far.
3 new players - all in positions we needed.
White is proven top class in the PL, Sambi looks an excellent buy and Tavares looks like excellent cover for Tierney + has the potential play further up.
We will, of course, have to see how they do, but to claim the summer has been a disaster before our new players have even kicked a ball for us is totally ridiculous and just more of the same BS that's been spread for the past 3 months.
by jayramfootball » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:36 pm
Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:What a disaster this summer has been so far, wasted 50 million on a CB who is unproven and probably not worth more than 25-30 million, signed a couple guys from weaker league who in reality won’t be ready and will only be squad players and on top of that have failed to get rid of pretty much all the players we were desperate to see the back off.
Personally I’d have brought back Saliba and maybe Mavropanos, signed someone like Aouar and possibly taken a punt on Camavinga or gone for Bissouma, probably taken a punt on Onana even though he’s been banned until October (which isn’t ideal) and maybe Aaron’s and Silva and maybe found another backup left back, Tavarez maybe ok
Then sold the likes of Xhaka, Willock, Bellerin, Lacazette, Willian, Kolasinac, Torreira, Nketiah, AMN.
What we’ve done has been shocking.
Rubbish
It's been a very smart window so far.
3 new players - all in positions we needed.
White is proven top class in the PL, Sambi looks an excellent buy and Tavares looks like excellent cover for Tierney + has the potential play further up.
We will, of course, have to see how they do, but to claim the summer has been a disaster before our new players have even kicked a ball for us is totally ridiculous and just more of the same BS that's been spread for the past 3 months.
That’s what you think but many others don’t, for most it’s 2 unknowns who aren’t ready and a guy we overpaid for who is far from proven, one season in the PL doesn’t make you proven I’m afraid.
It’s been awful and we’ve on top of that not sold anyone we wanted to sell.
You can convince yourself it’s a good summer if you like, just like you convinced yourself Arteta has done well, but no one else is buying it.
by Salibatelli » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:46 pm
by jayramfootball » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:57 pm
Özim wrote:The guy has 2 caps hardly impressive, plus yes winning player of the season and one decent season isn’t proven, certainly not worth anywhere near 50 million, as I’ve stated many times I’d have rather seen us give Saliba a chance and save 50 million to spend in more important areas, this guy could easily flop and would have to be extraordinary to be worth 50 million anyway.
I don’t think anyone thinks they are spot on except you, if you’d told people before the summer these would be the players we’d sign, they’d have laughed.
Actually we needed Xhaka out the door full stop, no one wanted him for years so to find a buyer was extraordinary, we should have taken what we could get, now we’re stuck with this chump probably for many years as we’ve come up with a stupid scheme of offering him a new contract apparently.
Anyway when Arteta fails next season (and he will), you can probably expect a few people to tell you it was nailed on and that we’ve now wasted another season.
I’ll never accept that a guy who has managed two 8th places with no history of success should still be in the job and indeed deserves to be because frankly for a club like Arsenal that’s laughable.
by Salibatelli » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:00 pm
by jayramfootball » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:03 pm
Özim wrote:Saliba has already been bought he didn’t cost a rip-off 50 million, it makes perfect sense, plus he himself has excelled.
We could then spend the 50 million in areas we need.
It’s perfectly simple.
As for White, there’s countless 1 season wonders.
by Salibatelli » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:04 pm
jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:Saliba has already been bought he didn’t cost a rip-off 50 million, it makes perfect sense, plus he himself has excelled.
We could then spend the 50 million in areas we need.
It’s perfectly simple.
As for White, there’s countless 1 season wonders.
Again - not your money.
By every measure White is better than Saliba - so we have a better player in defence.
That is what matters.
by jayramfootball » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:09 pm
Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:Saliba has already been bought he didn’t cost a rip-off 50 million, it makes perfect sense, plus he himself has excelled.
We could then spend the 50 million in areas we need.
It’s perfectly simple.
As for White, there’s countless 1 season wonders.
Again - not your money.
By every measure White is better than Saliba - so we have a better player in defence.
That is what matters.
I don’t care, it’s what I want to see the money spent on, I don’t want us to waste money we can’t really afford.
Again that can’t be proven, they’ve never played in the same league, that’s just hearsay, plus we have to pay 50 million, Saliba costs us nothing, barely anyone knew anything about white before we signed him.
by Salibatelli » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:10 pm
jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:Saliba has already been bought he didn’t cost a rip-off 50 million, it makes perfect sense, plus he himself has excelled.
We could then spend the 50 million in areas we need.
It’s perfectly simple.
As for White, there’s countless 1 season wonders.
Again - not your money.
By every measure White is better than Saliba - so we have a better player in defence.
That is what matters.
I don’t care, it’s what I want to see the money spent on, I don’t want us to waste money we can’t really afford.
Again that can’t be proven, they’ve never played in the same league, that’s just hearsay, plus we have to pay 50 million, Saliba costs us nothing, barely anyone knew anything about white before we signed him.
AMN cost us nothing too.
Should he start for us instead of buying players?
I could go on.
The point is we need a defender and Saliba ain't it.
We got a vastly more proven player at this level instead.
by jayramfootball » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:22 pm
Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:Saliba has already been bought he didn’t cost a rip-off 50 million, it makes perfect sense, plus he himself has excelled.
We could then spend the 50 million in areas we need.
It’s perfectly simple.
As for White, there’s countless 1 season wonders.
Again - not your money.
By every measure White is better than Saliba - so we have a better player in defence.
That is what matters.
I don’t care, it’s what I want to see the money spent on, I don’t want us to waste money we can’t really afford.
Again that can’t be proven, they’ve never played in the same league, that’s just hearsay, plus we have to pay 50 million, Saliba costs us nothing, barely anyone knew anything about white before we signed him.
AMN cost us nothing too.
Should he start for us instead of buying players?
I could go on.
The point is we need a defender and Saliba ain't it.
We got a vastly more proven player at this level instead.
That’s different AMN hasn’t excelled elsewhere, so yes carry on with your irrelevant facts please.
Why not? He’s done amazingly, IMO white at 50 million isn’t it, it’s a waste of money.
If we wanted to spend big on an English player it should have been someone like Grealish, not White.
by Nuggets » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:40 pm
by Salibatelli » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:48 pm
jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:jayramfootball wrote:Özim wrote:Saliba has already been bought he didn’t cost a rip-off 50 million, it makes perfect sense, plus he himself has excelled.
We could then spend the 50 million in areas we need.
It’s perfectly simple.
As for White, there’s countless 1 season wonders.
Again - not your money.
By every measure White is better than Saliba - so we have a better player in defence.
That is what matters.
I don’t care, it’s what I want to see the money spent on, I don’t want us to waste money we can’t really afford.
Again that can’t be proven, they’ve never played in the same league, that’s just hearsay, plus we have to pay 50 million, Saliba costs us nothing, barely anyone knew anything about white before we signed him.
AMN cost us nothing too.
Should he start for us instead of buying players?
I could go on.
The point is we need a defender and Saliba ain't it.
We got a vastly more proven player at this level instead.
That’s different AMN hasn’t excelled elsewhere, so yes carry on with your irrelevant facts please.
Why not? He’s done amazingly, IMO white at 50 million isn’t it, it’s a waste of money.
If we wanted to spend big on an English player it should have been someone like Grealish, not White.
Saliba has ZERO experience in the PL and did not look particularly good even in PL2.
Grealish would not be a good option at CB.
We'd still need a CB after buying Grealish - who we don't need.
The reason we need a CB is because Luiz is gone and Saliba is simply not good enough.
You just don't have a point.
We've strengthened in defence with a top player. That can only be a good thing.
You are not fooling anyone with this Saliba nonsense.
by Ach » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:55 pm