by Arsenal Tone » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:12 am
by Power n Glory » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:29 am
DiamondGooner wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Yago wrote:Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Excuse me? Did I miss something? Did Torreira get two assists today? Just so we're clear, we're only talking about what happened during the match.
Yes you've missed something.
Corners are not assists from open play, they are no indication of the skill or level of a footballer.
A corner is a kick lobbed in the air to anybody in a box, if you want to count that as an assist then you go girl, yes "technically" it counts but it is not an assist from open play.
by StLGooner » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:47 pm
Tony_Adams wrote:His corners and free kicks are very good
by DiamondGooner » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:23 pm
Power n Glory wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Yago wrote:Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Excuse me? Did I miss something? Did Torreira get two assists today? Just so we're clear, we're only talking about what happened during the match.
Yes you've missed something.
Corners are not assists from open play, they are no indication of the skill or level of a footballer.
A corner is a kick lobbed in the air to anybody in a box, if you want to count that as an assist then you go girl, yes "technically" it counts but it is not an assist from open play.
I guess the game ended 1-1 over the two legs and I missed extra time since we're dismissing corners.
Who created the best chances from open play?
I'm no fan of Xhaka but damn....if we're discounting corners as assists than we have to take some marks off Ozil's assist record because he has a lot of assists for us from corners.
by Power n Glory » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:40 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:Power n Glory wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Yago wrote:Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Excuse me? Did I miss something? Did Torreira get two assists today? Just so we're clear, we're only talking about what happened during the match.
Yes you've missed something.
Corners are not assists from open play, they are no indication of the skill or level of a footballer.
A corner is a kick lobbed in the air to anybody in a box, if you want to count that as an assist then you go girl, yes "technically" it counts but it is not an assist from open play.
I guess the game ended 1-1 over the two legs and I missed extra time since we're dismissing corners.
Who created the best chances from open play?
I'm no fan of Xhaka but damn....if we're discounting corners as assists than we have to take some marks off Ozil's assist record because he has a lot of assists for us from corners.
I'm saying he's a bang average player, you raised "But....but, he had two assists today" like he's Ozil or something, the man took our corners, that's it, how does taking corners make you a good player exactly?
Ok, I'll put it another way .......... when he's not taking corners, for the rest of the game, you know actually on the pitch running around which is 90% of the game, he's crap.
by starmandb » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:19 am
by DiamondGooner » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:37 am
Power n Glory wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Power n Glory wrote:DiamondGooner wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Yago wrote:Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Excuse me? Did I miss something? Did Torreira get two assists today? Just so we're clear, we're only talking about what happened during the match.
Yes you've missed something.
Corners are not assists from open play, they are no indication of the skill or level of a footballer.
A corner is a kick lobbed in the air to anybody in a box, if you want to count that as an assist then you go girl, yes "technically" it counts but it is not an assist from open play.
I guess the game ended 1-1 over the two legs and I missed extra time since we're dismissing corners.
Who created the best chances from open play?
I'm no fan of Xhaka but damn....if we're discounting corners as assists than we have to take some marks off Ozil's assist record because he has a lot of assists for us from corners.
I'm saying he's a bang average player, you raised "But....but, he had two assists today" like he's Ozil or something, the man took our corners, that's it, how does taking corners make you a good player exactly?
Ok, I'll put it another way .......... when he's not taking corners, for the rest of the game, you know actually on the pitch running around which is 90% of the game, he's crap.
Mate... go back and read the posts. You seem confused about who you're talking to. I haven't raised an argument to say he's a good player because he has two assists. I'm looking at your posts and thinking you're silly for discounting corners as assists.
He is a bang average player but he contributed more in that game than most of our better players. Those are just the facts and without his contribution we wouldn't be through to the next round. My take from that, we need our players to step their game up with someone as average as Xhaka creates the best chances.
by Power n Glory » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:11 am
Xhaka is our weak link right next to Iwobi imo.
Wtf does he actually do?
We'd be out of the competition if he didn't play tonight. 2 assists and a MOTM performance.
Two assists?
One was a home goal, the other two were headers from defenders .......... taking corners is hardly an assist!
Corners count as an assist.
Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Yes you've missed something.
Corners are not assists from open play, they are no indication of the skill or level of a footballer.
A corner is a kick lobbed in the air to anybody in a box, if you want to count that as an assist then you go girl, yes "technically" it counts but it is not an assist from open play.
by Zedie » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:00 pm
by Arsenal Tone » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:01 pm
by theHotHead » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:03 am
Power n Glory wrote:Yago wrote:Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Excuse me? Did I miss something? Did Torreira get two assists today? Just so we're clear, we're only talking about what happened during the match.
by Power n Glory » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:44 am
theHotHead wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Yago wrote:Torreira's corners are just as good, that's a dumb argument.
Excuse me? Did I miss something? Did Torreira get two assists today? Just so we're clear, we're only talking about what happened during the match.
Lol, same person dissing Ozil's chances created. The only corners that are meant/aimed at specific people are corners that are pulled back and near post corners. Anything else is just lobbed into the area.
Totally agree with DG on this. Yes technically its an assist but its not like he is picking anyone out on his corners, its not a special set piece routine. He has a great shot, not sure about this great dead ball delivery!! Beckham had great dead ball delivery, Xhaka does not.
And Ozil doesn't get assists from corners, when was the last time he got one!!
by swipe right » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:50 am
by theHotHead » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:19 am
by Power n Glory » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:45 am
theHotHead wrote:Power n Glory, free kicks Ozil takes are shorter in length than corners. You have more options for free kicks than you do for corners because corners are fixed to the by and touch lines. So I don't think the thought process for free kicks are the same at all.
I am of course making a mountain out of a mole hill, but its to emphasise a point, in reality it makes no difference.