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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Salibatelli » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:45 am

You’re spot on PNG, personally I prefer players that at more unpredictable, especially on the wing.

The safety first method doesn’t really inspire me.
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:02 am

Özim wrote:You’re spot on PNG, personally I prefer players that at more unpredictable, especially on the wing.

The safety first method doesn’t really inspire me.


It was just too safe all over the pitch. Predicatble play. Saka was off his game and Willian is Willian so we didn't stretch them or force them to make a difficult decision from the wing. The dangerous moments came from Bellerin and Tierney crossing.
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Santi » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:30 pm

LMAO wrote:
Jedi wrote:

No comment. :hiding:


That's...um...extremely damning.

And apparently Ozil has done nada at Fenerbahce?


Well, he played about 5 games (couple as sub) before he got injured so not exactly going to have 10 goals and assists is he :P

Charlie Watts just a WUM little bitch tbh.
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:54 pm

Willian has been god awful for most of the season, and his best assist is still the one he provided to Auba on his debut. Still hasn't scored, mind you.

That being said, he has admitted to struggling to adjust to Arteta's system and that he wants to do better. We can see that he's making more of an effort now than earlier in the season .

Ozil OTOH had checked out mentally. Laca and Auba had ~80 goals from open play from Jan 2018 to the end of last season and he was behind maybe 5 of them. He never acknowledged his drop in form, and never attempted to adjust to a new style of play. Really soured my opinion of him.
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby starmandb » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:33 pm

Santi wrote:
LMAO wrote:
Jedi wrote:

No comment. :hiding:


That's...um...extremely damning.

And apparently Ozil has done nada at Fenerbahce?


Well, he played about 5 games (couple as sub) before he got injured so not exactly going to have 10 goals and assists is he :P

Charlie Watts just a WUM little bitch tbh.

Willian has played 1812 mins at Arsenal and has 7 assists
In Ozil’s last 1812 mins at Arsenal he scored 1 goal and had 2 assists
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Callum » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:36 pm

all will be forgiven if he scores the winner this sunday
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby VCC » Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:47 pm

Willian takes the sting out of Teirney,
He may have all these assists ( basically corners or a 5m pass) but he is a waste of space just as Ozil was. He adds no value to our line up stats won't tell you that but your f***ing eyes will
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Santi » Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:59 pm

starmandb wrote:
Santi wrote:
LMAO wrote:
Jedi wrote:

No comment. :hiding:


That's...um...extremely damning.

And apparently Ozil has done nada at Fenerbahce?


Well, he played about 5 games (couple as sub) before he got injured so not exactly going to have 10 goals and assists is he :P

Charlie Watts just a WUM little bitch tbh.

Willian has played 1812 mins at Arsenal and has 7 assists
In Ozil’s last 1812 mins at Arsenal he scored 1 goal and had 2 assists


What point are you trying to make?
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby starmandb » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:04 pm

Santi wrote:
starmandb wrote:
Santi wrote:
LMAO wrote:
Jedi wrote:

No comment. :hiding:


That's...um...extremely damning.

And apparently Ozil has done nada at Fenerbahce?


Well, he played about 5 games (couple as sub) before he got injured so not exactly going to have 10 goals and assists is he :P

Charlie Watts just a WUM little bitch tbh.

Willian has played 1812 mins at Arsenal and has 7 assists
In Ozil’s last 1812 mins at Arsenal he scored 1 goal and had 2 assists


What point are you trying to make?

Willian is an an Arsenal player
Ozil isn’t anymore
Ozil had less goal involvement in his most recent Arsenal minutes than Willian has in his
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Santi » Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:49 pm

Cool - I was talking about Ozil at Fenerbache in response to LMAO so not sure how relevant it is but glad to know :)
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby starmandb » Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:02 pm

Santi wrote:Cool - I was talking about Ozil at Fenerbache in response to LMAO so not sure how relevant it is but glad to know :)

Sorry, my mistake
Ozil 418 minutes at fenerbahce 0 goals or assists
Willian last 418 minutes 4 assists
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Santi » Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:00 pm

starmandb wrote:
Santi wrote:Cool - I was talking about Ozil at Fenerbache in response to LMAO so not sure how relevant it is but glad to know :)

Sorry, my mistake
Ozil 418 minutes at fenerbahce 0 goals or assists
Willian last 418 minutes 4 assists


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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:05 am

starmandb wrote:
Santi wrote:Cool - I was talking about Ozil at Fenerbache in response to LMAO so not sure how relevant it is but glad to know :)

Sorry, my mistake
Ozil 418 minutes at fenerbahce 0 goals or assists
Willian last 418 minutes 4 assists

That comparison fails to recognise that Willian has made 29 appearances for Arsenal this season, 1588 mins, and got 7 assists. It also doesn't show he went 9 league games before this mini run of form without scoring or getting an assist.

Contrast that to Ozil who joined a new club in a new league mid-season, who has made 7 appearances 6 league and 1 cup) and played 418 mins with 0 assists.

You say it is Willian who is the Arsenal player but its your duty to at least be fair and balanced when you give your stats! Willian didnt get an assist for more games than Ozil has played for Fener, and I haven't even mentioned Willian's other run of league games where he did f**k all!
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby starmandb » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:50 am

I don’t care for Ozil of old
He is not here anymore and can no longer help us
I care for Willian of now and as of those minutes of now he has been better than Ozil in the same minutes most recent
The original answer to the original tweet regarding willian having more assists than Ozil in the last 2 years I misunderstood and stated that fact but then on drawing down on the exact most recent minutes it showed Willian in a better light therefore I thought it was an encouraging thing to post from a current Arsenal perspective
Take from it what you will
It was a point of information
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Re: Willian Borges da Silva (12)

Postby Angelito » Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:57 pm

It's confirmation bias.

They'll read a situation as they like. Can't do anything with such folks.

When Ozil wasn't assisting or scoring, he still contributed to our game, he still created chances, he still bossed midfields. But it doesn't matter as long as long as we can go along with our own narratives.

Elneny has scored more European goals than Santi Cazorla. Guess Elneny has been more valuable to us.
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