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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Santi » Wed Dec 29, 2021 11:27 pm

70m for 3 goals in 11 apps?

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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby KG3 » Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:26 am

In terms of our CF signing and going for the obvious options like Vlahovic and Martinez who will cost 70M or more. We need to think outside the box and buy someone who’s going under the radar but has the right traits we need to lead the line.

Look at Klopp for example Mane, Salah and Jota where all questionable signings at the time and now look at them, klopp knew what he wanted and made them into better plays.

Ideally the next CF at the bare minimum needs to have good link up play, work rate, decent pace, creativity, aerial ability.

Haven’t been keeping up with other Europe’s top leagues so I’m not really sure if there’s anyone cheap that fits that profile, but maybe if we looked at leagues that no one really thinks of like Poland/Croatia etc for the next Lewandoski/Eduardo we might find something.

I’d say South America also but they have a work permit issue so it’s not really ideal for us, we can’t afford to be buying someone and wait for them to develop elsewhere while waiting for a permit.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby swipe right » Thu Dec 30, 2021 9:56 am

KG3 wrote:In terms of our CF signing and going for the obvious options like Vlahovic and Martinez who will cost 70M or more. We need to think outside the box and buy someone who’s going under the radar but has the right traits we need to lead the line.

Look at Klopp for example Mane, Salah and Jota where all questionable signings at the time and now look at them, klopp knew what he wanted and made them into better plays.

Ideally the next CF at the bare minimum needs to have good link up play, work rate, decent pace, creativity, aerial ability.

Haven’t been keeping up with other Europe’s top leagues so I’m not really sure if there’s anyone cheap that fits that profile, but maybe if we looked at leagues that no one really thinks of like Poland/Croatia etc for the next Lewandoski/Eduardo we might find something.

I’d say South America also but they have a work permit issue so it’s not really ideal for us, we can’t afford to be buying someone and wait for them to develop elsewhere while waiting for a permit.

https://youtu.be/qCIm3qQp0Qc
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:43 am

swipe right wrote:
KG3 wrote:In terms of our CF signing and going for the obvious options like Vlahovic and Martinez who will cost 70M or more. We need to think outside the box and buy someone who’s going under the radar but has the right traits we need to lead the line.

Look at Klopp for example Mane, Salah and Jota where all questionable signings at the time and now look at them, klopp knew what he wanted and made them into better plays.

Ideally the next CF at the bare minimum needs to have good link up play, work rate, decent pace, creativity, aerial ability.

Haven’t been keeping up with other Europe’s top leagues so I’m not really sure if there’s anyone cheap that fits that profile, but maybe if we looked at leagues that no one really thinks of like Poland/Croatia etc for the next Lewandoski/Eduardo we might find something.

I’d say South America also but they have a work permit issue so it’s not really ideal for us, we can’t afford to be buying someone and wait for them to develop elsewhere while waiting for a permit.

https://youtu.be/qCIm3qQp0Qc


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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Alexis » Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:57 pm

KG3 wrote:In terms of our CF signing and going for the obvious options like Vlahovic and Martinez who will cost 70M or more. We need to think outside the box and buy someone who’s going under the radar but has the right traits we need to lead the line.

Look at Klopp for example Mane, Salah and Jota where all questionable signings at the time and now look at them, klopp knew what he wanted and made them into better plays.

Ideally the next CF at the bare minimum needs to have good link up play, work rate, decent pace, creativity, aerial ability.

Haven’t been keeping up with other Europe’s top leagues so I’m not really sure if there’s anyone cheap that fits that profile, but maybe if we looked at leagues that no one really thinks of like Poland/Croatia etc for the next Lewandoski/Eduardo we might find something.

I’d say South America also but they have a work permit issue so it’s not really ideal for us, we can’t afford to be buying someone and wait for them to develop elsewhere while waiting for a permit.



Mane, Salah and Jota were not questionable signings. Mane was a good player for Southampton and was up there with van dick as their top 3 players. Salah was one of the best serie A players and was doing everything you're seeing now except lethal finishing which is what klopp has fixed and Jota was doing great for wolves under Nuno.

He took them on and improved on their weaknesses but they weren't toss ups. Mane was linked to United previously. And Salah to multiple other top Italian clubs.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:36 pm

I have no problem with Laca, at the very least you get effort from him and its not like he is a shit CF.

Give the man a contract and buy a replacement for Auba. I still think there is a lot more to come from Laca, now we have found a system that works kinda he should be in the goals.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Power n Glory » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:57 pm

Reiss wrote:Rumours are we want to give Laca a 2 year contract.

We. Need. To. Learn. From. Our. Mistakes.


Yep. This could be expensive.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Goonerred » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:59 pm

Power n Glory wrote:
Reiss wrote:Rumours are we want to give Laca a 2 year contract.

We. Need. To. Learn. From. Our. Mistakes.


Yep. This could be expensive.

What you mean giving an ageing player whose legs might go any minute a huge pay rise?
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:14 pm

He has not done anything to deserve a rise.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:20 pm

theHotHead wrote:He has not done anything to deserve a rise.


Done more than Xhaka, imho.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Rockape » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:30 pm

theHotHead wrote:He has not done anything to deserve a rise.



I agree........but thats not how it works! At the end of his contract, he becomes a free agent who won't cost another club a transfer fee, so:

He will get a signing on fee
he will get an increase on his current wages

So, we can either let that happen and look to pay anything between £30 and £75m on a replacement who may not be a success. Therefore giving him a 2 yr contract and a significant pay rise would save us a vast sum of money against doing the alternative and give us a player we know all about.

Clearly this isn't the ideal solution, but its better than letting him go and not getting a replacement.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Goonerred » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:42 pm

Rockape wrote:
theHotHead wrote:He has not done anything to deserve a rise.



I agree........but thats not how it works! At the end of his contract, he becomes a free agent who won't cost another club a transfer fee, so:

He will get a signing on fee
he will get an increase on his current wages

So, we can either let that happen and look to pay anything between £30 and £75m on a replacement who may not be a success. Therefore giving him a 2 yr contract and a significant pay rise would save us a vast sum of money against doing the alternative and give us a player we know all about.

Clearly this isn't the ideal solution, but its better than letting him go and not getting a replacement.

In other words, he's going to hold us to ransom. We never learn.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:50 pm

Doesn't turn up nearly enough to merit an extension. I appreciate his service for the team and his experience, but his ~10 league goals/season record isn't worth £9m/yr or whatever he's getting now.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Power n Glory » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:53 pm

Goonerred wrote:
Rockape wrote:
theHotHead wrote:He has not done anything to deserve a rise.



I agree........but thats not how it works! At the end of his contract, he becomes a free agent who won't cost another club a transfer fee, so:

He will get a signing on fee
he will get an increase on his current wages

So, we can either let that happen and look to pay anything between £30 and £75m on a replacement who may not be a success. Therefore giving him a 2 yr contract and a significant pay rise would save us a vast sum of money against doing the alternative and give us a player we know all about.

Clearly this isn't the ideal solution, but its better than letting him go and not getting a replacement.

In other words, he's going to hold us to ransom. We never learn.


We should be spending out time looking for internal solutions as well. Martinelli, Balogun and Pepe some names that could possibly play his role. I wouldn't even be mad of Arteta tried a false 9 role for one of the players but instead we're rotating game time between two contract bandits, Nketiah and Lacazette.
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Re: Alexandre Lacazette (9)

Postby Santi » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:11 pm

Should be 1 year with a small rise in wage (purely because contracts always go up in football).

Otherwise let him go. Love the guy but never again do we want an aging player on high wages, even if I trust him to give more effort than Auba/Ozil.
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