Comparison to invincibles

[theHotHead]

DG I think you are missing the point. When this thread was resurrected in August last year there was no commentary made, a list of the 2 squads side by side were posted and that's yer lot. Nobody ever said this squad was better than the Invincibles.

I then took it a step further by stating my squad from both teams and stating the reasons why I chose one player over another. Again, it wasn't an Invincibles vs current squad debate.

So I don't know why people think that's what the discussion is

[Arsenal Tone]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

[swipe right]

Are we actually comparing this squad of bottlers with the only team in 200 years of history to go unbeaten in a 38 game league?

[Nuggets]

Are we actually comparing this squad of bottlers with the only team in 200 years of history to go unbeaten in a 38 game league?

lol

[Va-Va-Voom]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

They wouldn't have given up two 2-0 leads in a row and then gone down 2-0 at Highbury to the bottom placed team regardless of who they were missing.

[VCC]

Can't believe Cole and zinny are on the same sheet

[Angelito]

This is exactly what I was talking about. Why? What's the need for this?

KdB and Haaland aren't even a "duo." And they've played together for less than a season!

You'll never see Gary Neville undermine United legends like this.

If you want to juggle around with random "duos," why not Mane and Salah; why not Drogba and Lampard?

Apart from Wrighty and Henry, Arsenal legends-turned-pundits are a special case.

[starmandb]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

Toure getting a bum rap mate
He started the last 16 games of the season
Keown was a fine player for us but he was peripheral in the 03/04 season

[starmandb]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

They wouldn't have given up two 2-0 leads in a row and then gone down 2-0 at Highbury to the bottom placed team regardless of who they were missing.

Cygan and Campbell did give up a 2 goal lead at 4 th from bottom of the table Bolton
When we were top of the table on goal difference over Man Utd with a massive 74 points after 34 games
So much better than the utter failure that is 75 points from 33 games

[swipe right]

We’ve become like Spurs. And that’s probably the saddest thing about this situation. Losing leagues is fine as long as the fans can come and debate how many points we won and making comparisons with the Invincibles. It’s up there with Spurs releasing DVDs of seasons they won nothing. And then there’s the manager. We used to laugh at Spurs for praising Poch despite winning nothing. And now here we are. Bloody travesty.

[Va-Va-Voom]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

They wouldn't have given up two 2-0 leads in a row and then gone down 2-0 at Highbury to the bottom placed team regardless of who they were missing.

Cygan and Campbell did give up a 2 goal lead at 4 th from bottom of the table Bolton
When we were top of the table on goal difference over Man Utd with a massive 74 points after 34 games
So much better than the utter failure that is 75 points from 33 games

Where did I say this season was a failure?

Also this is about the Invincibles, don't know why you're bringing up a random game from a different season.

[starmandb]

We’ve become like Spurs. And that’s probably the saddest thing about this situation. Losing leagues is fine as long as the fans can come and debate how many points we won and making comparisons with the Invincibles. It’s up there with Spurs releasing DVDs of seasons they won nothing. And then there’s the manager. We used to laugh at Spurs for praising Poch despite winning nothing. And now here we are. Bloody travesty.

Except it’s not a comparison with the team that won the title in 03/04
It’s a comparison with the team that finished second in 02/03
And being used by own fans to denigrate the current team up against players that did fail in the past

[starmandb]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

They wouldn't have given up two 2-0 leads in a row and then gone down 2-0 at Highbury to the bottom placed team regardless of who they were missing.

Cygan and Campbell did give up a 2 goal lead at 4 th from bottom of the table Bolton
When we were top of the table on goal difference over Man Utd with a massive 74 points after 34 games
So much better than the utter failure that is 75 points from 33 games

Where did I say this season was a failure?

Also this is about the Invincibles, don't know why you're bringing up a random game from a different season.

The clue was in the wouldn’t give up a 2 goal lead
Ok they didn’t do it twice
They didn’t do it at home to the bottom placed team
But they did do it at Bolton with the league in sight
I think relevance can spring from any subject
I set little stall by Invincibles
Winning the league was all that mattered to me
Teams that win the league with a greater points total carry more weight for me
But whatever it takes to get you over the line is good enough

[Va-Va-Voom]

As another transfer window closes, we are as close to winning a title as we've been in years. With Sambi and Cedric out on loan, how does the squad for our title run in compare to the invincibles?

Lehmann - Ramsdale
Lauren - White
Campbell - Saliba
Toure - Gabriel
Cole - Zinchenko
Ljungberg - Saka
Gilberto - Partey
Vieira - Xhaka
Pires - Martinelli
Henry - Jesus
Bergkamp - Odegaard

Keown - Tomiyasu
Cygan – Holding
Parlour - Smith Rowe
Edu - Jorginho
Reyes - F.Vieira
Kanu - Nketiah
Wiltord - Trossard

Clichy - Tierney
Aliadiere - Nelson
Bentley - Elneny
Hoyte - Kiwior

TBF, imagine if Keown and Campbell were both injured and the invincibles had Cygan and Toure at CB for the run in.

They wouldn't have given up two 2-0 leads in a row and then gone down 2-0 at Highbury to the bottom placed team regardless of who they were missing.

Cygan and Campbell did give up a 2 goal lead at 4 th from bottom of the table Bolton
When we were top of the table on goal difference over Man Utd with a massive 74 points after 34 games
So much better than the utter failure that is 75 points from 33 games

Where did I say this season was a failure?

Also this is about the Invincibles, don't know why you're bringing up a random game from a different season.

The clue was in the wouldn’t give up a 2 goal lead
Ok they didn’t do it twice
They didn’t do it at home to the bottom placed team
But they did do it at Bolton with the league in sight
I think relevance can spring from any subject
I set little stall by Invincibles
Winning the league was all that mattered to me
Teams that win the league with a greater points total carry more weight for me
But whatever it takes to get you over the line is good enough[/quote]

Fair enough

We definitely bottled the league in 02/03

And if we're being honest The Invincibles bottled it in CL against Chelsea

[elkanofan]

Agreed the invicibles completley bottled it vs Chelsea in the CL.

Although the biggest difference between the invicibles and our 2022/23 team is power.

The invincibles had a lot of 6"foot + players not just in defence but midfield and attack. When things got tough we had more resilience to weather stroms of bad form and bully teams in attack on bad days.

Our current team has too many small lightwieght technical players in midfield and attack who cant bully opponents on bad days where we cant juat outclass our opponents.

The invicibles were a much better team in general but if we add at least 1 powerful attacker to our team then one day we may genuinley have a squad comparable to this legendary team.