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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby Angelito » Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:56 pm

Arsenal Tone wrote:Lehmann - Raya

Lauren - White

Campbell - Saliba

Toure - Gabriel

Cole - Calafiori

Ljungberg - Saka

Gilberto - Partey

Vieira - Rice

Pires - Sterling

Henry - Havertz

Bergkamp - Odegaard


Keown - Timber

Cygan – Tomiyasu

Parlour - Jorginho

Edu - Merino

Reyes - Martinelli

Kanu - Jesus

Wiltord - Trossard


Clichy - Lewis-Skelly

Aliadiere - Nwaneri

Bentley - Zinchenko

Hoyte - Kiwior


Is this the 'Invincibles' vs the 'Vincibles'? :hiding:
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:11 pm

Saka gets in over Ljungberg. Maybe Partey over Silva. Saliba over Toure. that's it. Wenger would have liked a player like Odegaard but he wouldn't have got in over Bergkamp or Kanu.

Trossard might get game time, though as a Wiltord-esque player who came off the bench. I can't see him starting over Pires.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby Ach » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:18 pm

Partey nowhere near the quality of Gilberto
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby UFGN » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:29 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:Saka gets in over Ljungberg. Maybe Partey over Silva. Saliba over Toure. that's it. Wenger would have liked a player like Odegaard but he wouldn't have got in over Bergkamp or Kanu.

Trossard might get game time, though as a Wiltord-esque player who came off the bench. I can't see him starting over Pires.


Partey over Gilberto Silva. Ok.

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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:13 am

UFGN wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:Saka gets in over Ljungberg. Maybe Partey over Silva. Saliba over Toure. that's it. Wenger would have liked a player like Odegaard but he wouldn't have got in over Bergkamp or Kanu.

Trossard might get game time, though as a Wiltord-esque player who came off the bench. I can't see him starting over Pires.


Partey over Gilberto Silva. Ok.

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same kinds of players. Partey arguably has better short passing and energy.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:14 am

Ach wrote:Partey nowhere near the quality of Gilberto



More energy and physicality, and better short passing.,
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:23 am

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
UFGN wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:Saka gets in over Ljungberg. Maybe Partey over Silva. Saliba over Toure. that's it. Wenger would have liked a player like Odegaard but he wouldn't have got in over Bergkamp or Kanu.

Trossard might get game time, though as a Wiltord-esque player who came off the bench. I can't see him starting over Pires.


Partey over Gilberto Silva. Ok.

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same kinds of players. Partey arguably has better short passing and energy.


That's like saying horses are arguably fish. You can argue it, but it's objectively the opinion of someone who could only plausibly be a blind, learning disabled fantasist from an alternative reality.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:25 am

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:
UFGN wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:Saka gets in over Ljungberg. Maybe Partey over Silva. Saliba over Toure. that's it. Wenger would have liked a player like Odegaard but he wouldn't have got in over Bergkamp or Kanu.

Trossard might get game time, though as a Wiltord-esque player who came off the bench. I can't see him starting over Pires.


Partey over Gilberto Silva. Ok.

This is why the internet should be closed.


same kinds of players. Partey arguably has better short passing and energy.


That's like saying the Moon is arguably a fish casserole. You can argue it, but it's objectively the opinion of someone who could only plausibly be a blind, learning disabled fantasist from an alternative reality.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:37 am

gilberto was boss but was limited. Vieira was the more complete player. Partey's all-round game is superior to Gilberto's.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:40 am

gilberto was an old-fashioned destroyer, like Dunga in their 1994 winning squad. Partey isn't a destroyer alone, he's a combative box-to-box. There aren't many actual destroyers these days, compared to the early PL years with Batty, Nicky Butt, etc. Keane was a combative box-to-box. Vieira was too. So is Kante. Gilberto wasn't.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby theHotHead » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:44 pm

UFGN wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:Saka gets in over Ljungberg. Maybe Partey over Silva. Saliba over Toure. that's it. Wenger would have liked a player like Odegaard but he wouldn't have got in over Bergkamp or Kanu.

Trossard might get game time, though as a Wiltord-esque player who came off the bench. I can't see him starting over Pires.


Partey over Gilberto Silva. Ok.

This is why the internet should be closed.

I said the same a while back. If its on form playing to their level/ability Partey is better than Gilberto.

If its what they have actually done at Arsenal and consistency then Partey doesn't come close.

Partey has dragged us through games by himself at times, I don't remember Gilberto doing that.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby theHotHead » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:46 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:gilberto was boss but was limited. Vieira was the more complete player. Partey's all-round game is superior to Gilberto's.
People with learning disabilities hate different perspective. Or assume all they think is the totality of reality. You often do this. You don't seem able to see a different view. since apparently everything you think is fact. It's like a person saying "McDonald's is shit, so it's shit for ALL!"

This, you have nailed it with this post. Partey's all round game is superior.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm

alexis2015finalgoal wrote:gilberto was boss but was limited. Vieira was the more complete player. Partey's all-round game is superior to Gilberto's.
People with learning disabilities hate different perspective. Or assume all they think is the totality of reality. You often do this. You don't seem able to see a different view. since apparently everything you think is fact. It's like a person saying "McDonald's is shit, so it's shit for ALL!"


The reason I shit on you so strong and so often is because you're a dreadful poster and always, always write utter nonsense. This subject being no exception. When I'm having to defend one out greatest ever central midfields, in any way, against comparisons with a good but injury prone Thomas Party, I'm not going to take you or the other one seriously. Of course I'm not.

Get Arteta drunk so his guard is down, and ask him if he thinks Partey on balance has even been worth the transfer fee, wages and medical treatment he has cost the club.

Gilberto for us was near world class. Partey is nowhere near world class. But injuries I hear you cry! Gilberto had injuries as well, and ultimately you have to be at the game to play, it's part of the sport. And besides everything, as a player, on the ball, passing, results, everything, Gilberto is levels......LEVELS above Partey.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby jayramfootball » Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:28 pm

theHotHead wrote:
alexis2015finalgoal wrote:gilberto was boss but was limited. Vieira was the more complete player. Partey's all-round game is superior to Gilberto's.
People with learning disabilities hate different perspective. Or assume all they think is the totality of reality. You often do this. You don't seem able to see a different view. since apparently everything you think is fact. It's like a person saying "McDonald's is shit, so it's shit for ALL!"

This, you have nailed it with this post. Partey's all round game is superior.



They are very different players.
Partey is the more talented footballer - that is pretty obvious TBH
However, I would definitely rely more on Gilberto than Partey - who has some real schoolboy moments in his game.
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Re: Comparison to invincibles

Postby Ach » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:28 pm

Gilberto was the best DM in the world from 02-06

Partey isn't even the best partey
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