2025 Summer Transfer Window

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Kai Havertz and Trossard have contributed 60+ G+A for Arsenal in about season and two thirds between them. Still a failure??

And not a trophy in sight. For a combined 100 mil in transfer fees, that’s a poor return.

By that logic, nobody in the team is good enough.

Yep. Minus Saka and the two center backs, none of them look like they have a title in them.

That's a pretty insane thing to say about a team that was 1 point away from the title last season.

No it’s not. They might as well have been ten points away. It’s season five and we haven’t seen a trophy. And you know what, we won’t with this manager and this team period.

[Jedi]

You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Fewer injuries (almost certain) + 2 major signings + tweak tactics and this team can win a major trophy.

[theHotHead]

How can you keep buying players when your squad limit is 25? You've to sell first to buy players, and besides, none of the 7-8 players were injured then, at the start of the season.
None had a crystal ball, nor was it ( buying) allowed by regulation.

If the manager has a squad of 25 players - the max allowed - and he is complaining the squad is thin, that would be for 2 reasons, he doesn't have many available due to injury and/or the players he has he doesnt trust or they are not good enough.

We have perpetually injured players in our squad, why do they remain in the squad? Manager's fault, not managing the squad properly. We have players not trusted to play or not good enough, why are they in the squad? Manager's fault, why promote/buy players and keep them in the squad when you don't feel confident enough to play them. Again, not managing the squad properly.

The manager gets rid of players he shouldn't and beings in players he shouldn't. Its all on the manager. If you overplay players until they fatigue and get injured, guess whose fault that is?!! The bloody manager.

[theHotHead]

Kai Havertz and Trossard have contributed 60+ G+A for Arsenal in about season and two thirds between them. Still a failure??

And not a trophy in sight. For a combined 100 mil in transfer fees, that’s a poor return.

By that logic, nobody in the team is good enough.

Yep. Minus Saka and the two center backs, none of them look like they have a title in them.

That's a pretty insane thing to say about a team that was 1 point away from the title last season.

No it’s not. They might as well have been ten points away. It’s season five and we haven’t seen a trophy. And you know what, we won’t with this manager and this team period.

Swipey I made the point to you already, the team is good, apart from the CF position, you don't do what we did the previous 2 seasons against a next level Man City team if you are not special. Your argument makes no sense.

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Kai Havertz and Trossard have contributed 60+ G+A for Arsenal in about season and two thirds between them. Still a failure??

And not a trophy in sight. For a combined 100 mil in transfer fees, that’s a poor return.

By that logic, nobody in the team is good enough.

Yep. Minus Saka and the two center backs, none of them look like they have a title in them.

That's a pretty insane thing to say about a team that was 1 point away from the title last season.

No it’s not. They might as well have been ten points away. It’s season five and we haven’t seen a trophy. And you know what, we won’t with this manager and this team period.

Swipey I made the point to you already, the team is good, apart from the CF position, you don't do what we did the previous 2 seasons against a next level Man City team if you are not special. Your argument makes no sense.

Sorry but what exactly did we do against man city? They’ve won four of the five PLs while we’ve had Arteta, done the treble and won the CL. Our accomplishments are what exactly? Beaten them twice in the league and once in the cup?

[theHotHead]

I see you are being stubborn.

We went toe to toe with them and lost last season by a solitary point ! Shit teams or a team with shit players wouldn't be able to do that.

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I see you are being stubborn.

We went toe to toe with them and lost last season by a solitary point ! Shit teams or a team with shit players wouldn't be able to do that.

Mate, I never called us a shit team. But if the height of our ambition is to finish second to City then that’s a serious let down. Please don’t delude yourself, we are nowhere close to city irrespective of how many points separated us last season. They win things, we don’t.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Fewer injuries (almost certain) + 2 major signings + tweak tactics and this team can win a major trophy.

We've been saying this for a decade or more. It doesnt happen that neatly. The good players we do have can lose form or move on, so instead of getting 2 good new players which was already complicated, we'll need 3.

The likelier way to a title is through a confluence of events where the favourites are off form or in transition and the 2nd team are consistent enough to sneak a win. Happened for Leicester and Chelsea in 2016 and 17. Atletico's 2 titles under Simeone happened under similar circumstances.

For us it was 22/23. This season we didn't start well enough to build momentum, and Pool's early consistency and lack of injuries gave them the advantage.

[theHotHead]

I see you are being stubborn.

We went toe to toe with them and lost last season by a solitary point ! Shit teams or a team with shit players wouldn't be able to do that.

Mate, I never called us a shit team. But if the height of our ambition is to finish second to City then that’s a serious let down. Please don’t delude yourself, we are nowhere close to city irrespective of how many points separated us last season. They win things, we don’t.

The point I am making is - we are a good team, as proven in the previous 2 seasons and with the same players this season we are still a good team.

[ag6789]

To win a major trophy, it has to be the players, super motivated from within. Ultimately it the will of the players that takes the team beyond the line.
Players like Messi, Ronaldo, Henry are self motivated to prove themselves better than the others. A manager or a coach can at best bring them close to the line but when faced with teams or a team of equal strength, it is upon the player who wants a little more, that wins the day.
Example, the ManCity victory in 2013. Aguero's stoppage time goal gives them the title.
For us, 2022-23 ,the stage was set for a victorious run to title, but our players lost nerve and we collapsed in last few games.

[theHotHead]

You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Fewer injuries (almost certain) + 2 major signings + tweak tactics and this team can win a major trophy.

We've been saying this for a decade or more. It doesnt happen that neatly. The good players we do have can lose form or move on, so instead of getting 2 good new players which was already complicated, we'll need 3.

The likelier way to a title is through a confluence of events where the favourites are off form or in transition and the 2nd team are consistent enough to sneak a win. Happened for Leicester and Chelsea in 2016 and 17. Atletico's 2 titles under Simeone happened under similar circumstances.

For us it was 22/23. This season we didn't start well enough to build momentum, and Pool's early consistency and lack of injuries gave them the advantage.

If we continue playing this suck ass brand of possession football we will need 4 players at least to be able to win the title.

If we go back to playing fast attacking football we literally only need a CF to win the title.

[theHotHead]

To win a major trophy, it has to be the players, super motivated from within. Ultimately it the will of the players that takes the team beyond the line.
Players like Messi, Ronaldo, Henry are self motivated to prove themselves better than the others. A manager or a coach can at best bring them close to the line but when faced with teams or a team of equal strength, it is upon the player who wants a little more, that wins the day.
Example, the ManCity victory in 2013. Aguero's stoppage time goal gives them the title.
For us, 2022-23 ,the stage was set for a victorious run to title, but our players lost nerve and we collapsed in last few games.

You can have the best players in the world, but if the system doesn't suit them you won't win anything. Thats where we are now, the system doesn't suit the offensive players and they all look cack ! Motivation only goes so far, you need a system that suits the players otherwise you are wasting everyone's time.

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I see you are being stubborn.

We went toe to toe with them and lost last season by a solitary point ! Shit teams or a team with shit players wouldn't be able to do that.

Mate, I never called us a shit team. But if the height of our ambition is to finish second to City then that’s a serious let down. Please don’t delude yourself, we are nowhere close to city irrespective of how many points separated us last season. They win things, we don’t.

The point I am making is - we are a good team, as proven in the previous 2 seasons and with the same players this season we are still a good team.

We need a center forward, a left wing forward and a central midfielder to pair with Rice. We also need an experienced center back to cover Saliba and Gabriel and a decent backup to Raya. Else we don’t win the league.

[Angelito]

^ If Arteta continues asking his left-forward to maintain width and function like a workhorse, we could buy Vinícius Jr., and it wouldn't solve anything. There's a reason why Arsenal have been buying anti-flair players this decade. The obsession with control is next level.

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^ If Arteta continues asking his left-forward to maintain width and function like a workhorse, we could buy Vinícius Jr., and it wouldn't solve anything. There's a reason why Arsenal have been buying anti-flair players this decade. The obsession with control is next level.

Martinelli gets no support. Odegard plays on the right and is there to exchange one twos with Saka. Rice and Partey are not able to break the lines with their passing. They are ball carriers. So while Martinelli is a good outlet with his pace, he doesn’t get played in. We also don’t have any full backs overlapping on his flank. It’s no wonder he’s become ineffective.