2025 January Transfer Window

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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby swipe right » Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:26 pm

Everyone and their dog knew we started the season short of attacking players. But now the club blames it on injuries. Did they think Jesus was suddenly going to rid his injury problems, or they could flog Saka for ever?
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby Ach » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:40 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/610994 ... ata-nypan/

Not sure how reliable new York would be about us but if true, morata lol
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby alexafc12 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:59 am

Wow

Bayern get €10m loan fee for Tel

6 months loan , plus full wage coverage.

Meanwhile we pay other clubs to take our players :rofll:
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:52 am

Rockape wrote:Its all well and good looking at what a player has done in the past, but you could say that aout Sterling and look at the state of him now.

Rashford is a (£17M a year) busted flush!

Point taken, but Rashford has always been a better natural player/forward than Sterling who was a manufactured forward. And Sterling had the very best of the best at City (manager and players), Rashford hasn't.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:54 am

Ach wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c62643lxxwro

If only he was in a position to do something about it

Who is to blame? Are they blaming Edu ? Surely we can sign players without a DoF.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby tweetstreet » Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:33 am

Rockape wrote:Its all well and good looking at what a player has done in the past, but you could say that aout Sterling and look at the state of him now.

Rashford is a (£17M a year) busted flush!



When you put it like that, the cost for Rashford does not get anywhere near balancing the risk. He's rumoured to have a bad attitude atm so we'd be regressing to the type of player we had before (PEA)

More chance than not that he'll never regain anything near previous form.

You'd be better off buying Ferguson for £20m. or taking a risk on any youngster as they'll have at least some resale value.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:59 am

tweetstreet wrote:
Rockape wrote:Its all well and good looking at what a player has done in the past, but you could say that aout Sterling and look at the state of him now.

Rashford is a (£17M a year) busted flush!



When you put it like that, the cost for Rashford does not get anywhere near balancing the risk. He's rumoured to have a bad attitude atm so we'd be regressing to the type of player we had before (PEA)

More chance than not that he'll never regain anything near previous form.

You'd be better off buying Ferguson for £20m. or taking a risk on any youngster as they'll have at least some resale value.

This is such a backward way of looking at people, its no wonder there is no flair in football anymore, its no wonder its robotic football played in patterns and no individuality.

I rate managers like Harry Redknapp, because he saw past the attitudes and looked at ability. He bought cast off after cast off and played magnificent football at West Ham, Spurs and Pompey. Look at the mavericks he signed, players other managers wouldn't touch, won a European trophy at West Ham and the FA cup at Portsmouth !

When being a manager meant managing a football club.

I don't care about Rashford's attitude, under the right manager he will be brilliant.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby ag6789 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:12 pm

The ManCity game for example,was no robotic football. Neither the football we played past two seasons. All pundits agree we can play beautiful football when we're all healthy.
The important thing is we can win ugly and grind out results when things aren't going our way. That's the bit of difference from the late Wenger era.
We forget that we had to battle tremendous injustice and injury crisis and still are mounting challenges.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby tweetstreet » Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:31 pm

theHotHead wrote:
tweetstreet wrote:
Rockape wrote:Its all well and good looking at what a player has done in the past, but you could say that aout Sterling and look at the state of him now.

Rashford is a (£17M a year) busted flush!



When you put it like that, the cost for Rashford does not get anywhere near balancing the risk. He's rumoured to have a bad attitude atm so we'd be regressing to the type of player we had before (PEA)

More chance than not that he'll never regain anything near previous form.

You'd be better off buying Ferguson for £20m. or taking a risk on any youngster as they'll have at least some resale value.

This is such a backward way of looking at people, its no wonder there is no flair in football anymore, its no wonder its robotic football played in patterns and no individuality.

I rate managers like Harry Redknapp, because he saw past the attitudes and looked at ability. He bought cast off after cast off and played magnificent football at West Ham, Spurs and Pompey. Look at the mavericks he signed, players other managers wouldn't touch, won a European trophy at West Ham and the FA cup at Portsmouth !

When being a manager meant managing a football club.

I don't care about Rashford's attitude, under the right manager he will be brilliant.


Fair point, but you've also got to be convinced that signing someone like Rashford won't upset the balance of the club, and that a manager can convert him. Ferguson and Redknapp etc had that ability to command respect above the player's value of their own self worth. Problem today is that many of them are happy to Clear £300k a week and not play purely to be the best they can be and win win win.

I'm also not convinced that even if Emery turns Rashford's attitude completely around that he can regain that player he once was, maybe he's just lost it.

I'm quite happy that we havent spent £70m on watkins now, there will be better options in the summer. The real problem is that there were better options last summer when we should have got the striker we needed.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:06 pm

ag6789 wrote:The ManCity game for example,was no robotic football. Neither the football we played past two seasons. All pundits agree we can play beautiful football when we're all healthy.
The important thing is we can win ugly and grind out results when things aren't going our way. That's the bit of difference from the late Wenger era.
We forget that we had to battle tremendous injustice and injury crisis and still are mounting challenges.


All teams have bad injuries this season over extended periods. it's not an excuse. Lots of sides have had bad refereeing decisions.
Do we care about the "corner" we got against Spurs that led to Gabriel's goal? Oh but it's against Spurs so it doesn't matter!!
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:33 pm

I just feel doing nothing is worse than doing something. Sometimes we get that paralysis of fear of doing something, we do nothing and its worse. Its not like we are firing on all cylinders so don't take a chance rocking the boat, our squad is threadbare, he who dares wins !!
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby Rockape » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:40 pm

Are there no decent attacking players in the Championship? There always used to be….but now we have to go to Europe or South America for players.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby VCC » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:43 pm

We should have loaned Ferguson, we have had links to him and if we did not have funds to invest at the least this would have given two things a look at if the guy was a good fit for the club and if he was he is young so you get years of service.
The problem was sending either Neto or Stirling out because of the 2 pl player lone rule.
Am positive if Arsenal had tried Ferguson would have come to us over west ham
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby theHotHead » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:44 pm

ag6789 wrote:The ManCity game for example,was no robotic football. Neither the football we played past two seasons. All pundits agree we can play beautiful football when we're all healthy.
The important thing is we can win ugly and grind out results when things aren't going our way. That's the bit of difference from the late Wenger era.
We forget that we had to battle tremendous injustice and injury crisis and still are mounting challenges.

You pulled out one game which actually isn't even a good example for you. Because the game followed the usual pattern, us squandering chances then sitting back on a one goal lead and almost regretting it. All very predictable.

Yes for one game we attacked quickly in the second half and played to our strength for once, but that was one half of one game of football, the complaints weekly have been the same, pass pass pass, too slow in attack, too predictable, no variety.
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Re: 2025 January Transfer Window

Postby ag6789 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:48 pm

I can guarantee that we've played pretty football in at least 60% of our games this season.
Playing eye-catching football has nothing to do with the results or the missed goals.
Brazilians in '82 and '86 ( for example) played fantastic football, but didn't go far because of misses. They also won low scoring games, but it was all about the execution. The passing, dribbling the ease of play was mesmerizing and pleasing to the eye . That's what everyone remembers.
You're hung up on misses by Havertz and a handful of draws and defeats and not seeing the whole picture.
For example, the game against Villa, in the first half, we played beautifully and were leading. 2nd half conceded and fell short.
Other games, like the Pool game, we played very well until Skelly made a mistake and Salah equalized at 81st min. Doesn't mean we played badly throughout. The first ManCity game, again,we were excellent until the Red card to Trossard, when we switched to man to man defense and eventually conceded at death.
The part after the Red card was gritty and ugly, but that was for a reason.
The few games we didn't play well at all were Bournemouth and Newcastle losses, and the Everton draw.
The ManU game ( FA cup) we should have won by 3 goals at least, missed penalties and other chances and lost, but pretty much outplayed them otherwise.
Some other 1-0 wins didn't look pretty because we're short handed in defense and midfield and had to grind out ugly wins ( goals from set pieces , Spurs and Ipswich). Actually it is creditable because, in earlier seasons 4-5 yrs ago and before) most of these games you have resulted in a draw or a loss, and every body would complain that we've a soft belly and not strong enough to win ugly and fade away.
It because we're a tough side we're still in the race, and we can switch between beauty and the beast.
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