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Re: Yoof Development

Postby Ach » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:25 pm

alexafc12 wrote:If people think Saliba is an product of our academy there is a screw loose

It's hilarious
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby swipe right » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:18 pm

People who know football know that Saliba owes his development to Jorge Sampaoli not Arteta. Fanboys will need to google that name.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:22 pm

Saliba credits Arteta.
I guess he knows better than most.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby Ach » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:27 pm

The coach immediately told me that I was not ready," he told French media. "I would have at least liked to have had a chance to rediscover my rhythm


He judged me on two-and-a-half matches. I would have liked for him to play me more. But he told me I wasn't ready. I was waiting for him to give me a chance


"When I initially came to Arsenal the league looked very good so I showed up to training and wanted to train on my own to show the coach I was ready. I am happy now, I want to play for Nice. The idea when you're part of a team is a better feeling for me."


Back when Arteta "developed" saliba

Sounds like saliba doesn't agree with the butt boy
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:40 pm

From the end of last season:

While acknowledging Sampaoli’s influence, Saliba also expressed his appreciation for his current manager, Mikel Arteta. He described Arteta as “one of the best coaches in the world,” praising his meticulous attention to detail and his unwavering dedication to winning. “He taught me to have a good attitude,” Saliba revealed. He went on to share an anecdote about Arteta pushing him to be more assertive in training. “Sometimes he thought I was a little soft in training so he asked me to be naughtier. In fact, he wants the players to be afraid when he sees me (smile).” This tough-love approach seems to be working, with Saliba acknowledging Arteta’s honesty and his willingness to give him playing time when deserved.

Saliba’s success highlights the value of working with different coaching styles. Sampaoli’s emphasis on freedom and risk-taking helped Saliba flourish, while Arteta’s focus on detail and winning mentality has further refined his game. Both coaches deserve credit for helping shape Saliba into the top defender he is today.


Arteta’s success bringing Saliba through in the right way is probably one of the toughest ones for the Arteta haters to swallow, given they buried themselves, but it is what it is.

Well done Arteta and well done Saliba for listening and learning.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby Ach » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:44 pm

Saliba hater being humiliated.

But but he's shit cos he plays in France on loan multiple times

Excels here. But but Arteta made him

Can't make this shit up but the pain of the saliba hater is clear to see. Agenda has to be met I guess
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby swipe right » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:45 pm

Kind of sad when fanboys have to reach for Saliba to prove his bringing players through and the FA Cup win to prove he has trophies in him. When anyone who lived through that era knows the truth.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:49 pm

Main thing is that Saliba is happy and understands how Arteta helped him so much.
He does as he’s said so.
We’re reaping the rewards now.

Doesn’t matter if those that insisted he’d leave and are upset he credits Arteta are feeling fragile now - it's their own fault.

He’s one of many examples of Arteta developing young players.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby alexafc12 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:34 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:
ag6789 wrote:So what , if less numbers have gotten debuts? Always quality before quantity. The academy players also need to prove themselves quickly,as PL/CL/ FA games aren't for fun. Nwaneri and Skelly are seeing minutes because they have quality. The ones like Patino fizzled out due to their inability to develop,not the manager's fault.


You're right it doesn't. Hence the original stat was players that had gone on to play 5+ games

However Jay posted the below quote which is wrong

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Point nullified

Humiliating season for Jay so far

The definition of a walking community note


Arteta has now given 12 debuts to academy players, and that is not even including his development for Saliba Martinelli and Saka into regular starters and world stars.
I love the negative narratives being swept aside - from all angles.

Love the strength and depth of our squad too that these youngsters are bolstering- who'd have thought we'd have enough players to field a team, eh?
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That's a lot of words just to say you are wrong

Again
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:52 pm

alexafc12 wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:
ag6789 wrote:So what , if less numbers have gotten debuts? Always quality before quantity. The academy players also need to prove themselves quickly,as PL/CL/ FA games aren't for fun. Nwaneri and Skelly are seeing minutes because they have quality. The ones like Patino fizzled out due to their inability to develop,not the manager's fault.


You're right it doesn't. Hence the original stat was players that had gone on to play 5+ games

However Jay posted the below quote which is wrong

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Point nullified

Humiliating season for Jay so far

The definition of a walking community note


Arteta has now given 12 debuts to academy players, and that is not even including his development for Saliba Martinelli and Saka into regular starters and world stars.
I love the negative narratives being swept aside - from all angles.

Love the strength and depth of our squad too that these youngsters are bolstering- who'd have thought we'd have enough players to field a team, eh?
:sneaky2:


That's a lot of words just to say you are wrong

Again


I dunno - seems we can field a team to get results and with ample back up including all those academy and young players Arteta has given debuts to or developed.
I thought you said we didn't even have enough players for a squad :dontknow:
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby alexafc12 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:33 pm

Not even sure what you're trying to argue honestly

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Wrong.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:38 pm

alexafc12 wrote:Not even sure what you're trying to argue honestly

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Wrong.


There is no argument.
Arteta has given 12 academy debuts in less than 5 years and has developed several first teamers from teenagers to world stars.
It’s great news so not sure why you are all beat up over it.
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby alexafc12 » Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:02 am

jayramfootball wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Not even sure what you're trying to argue honestly

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Wrong.


There is no argument.
Arteta has given 12 academy debuts in less than 5 years and has developed several first teamers from teenagers to world stars.
It’s great news so not sure why you are all beat up over it.


You're right, there is no argument because your statement is wrong

"Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"

Wrong
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:27 am

alexafc12 wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Not even sure what you're trying to argue honestly

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Wrong.


There is no argument.
Arteta has given 12 academy debuts in less than 5 years and has developed several first teamers from teenagers to world stars.
It’s great news so not sure why you are all beat up over it.


You're right, there is no argument because your statement is wrong

"Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"

Wrong


You need to stop getting so bent out of shape.
It comes across as you being a bit psychotic TBH - like a woman scorned or something.

You missed out the words 'I think' in my actually statement - naughty naughty.
Did Pepe or Klopp give more than 12 debuts from the academy in the last 4 years and 9 months?
Did they develop 3 teenagers into world stars?
I don't think they did.

But even if they did, why are you crying about it?
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Re: Yoof Development

Postby swipe right » Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:34 am

jayramfootball wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Not even sure what you're trying to argue honestly

"I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"


Wrong.


There is no argument.
Arteta has given 12 academy debuts in less than 5 years and has developed several first teamers from teenagers to world stars.
It’s great news so not sure why you are all beat up over it.


You're right, there is no argument because your statement is wrong

"Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players"

Wrong


You need to stop getting so bent out of shape.
It comes across as you being a bit psychotic TBH - like a woman scorned or something.

You missed out the words 'I think' in my actually statement - naughty naughty.
Did Pepe or Klopp give more than 12 debuts from the academy in the last 4 years and 9 months?
Did they develop 3 teenagers into world stars?
I don't think they did.

But even if they did, why are you crying about it?

By three teenagers you mean Saliba, Saka and Martinelli? One who isn’t a star, and the other two who have nothing to do with Arteta?
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