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[KG3]

A move in the right direction, shame we lost so many good talents on his watch.

Annoys me every time I think about it not including Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri, the players we lost over summer Norton-Cuffy, Walter’s, Cozier-Dubery and Chido are levels above the current youngsters we have in their positions at the moment.

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[jayramfootball]

I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players.

[TedLasso]

A move in the right direction, shame we lost so many good talents on his watch.

Annoys me every time I think about it not including Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri, the players we lost over summer Norton-Cuffy, Walter’s, Cozier-Dubery and Chido are levels above the current youngsters we have in their positions at the moment.

I don't necessarily agree. Chido is probably better than our youth striker options but neither BNC or Ruell Walters have ever shown as much as MLS did against Bolton. He's way better than both of them. ACD is now on loan at Blackburn and hasn't done anything to consider him a brighter talent than Nwaneri.

Time will tell though.

[theHotHead]

I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players.

Giving debuts is pointless if you don't give them further game time.

[KG3]

A move in the right direction, shame we lost so many good talents on his watch.

Annoys me every time I think about it not including Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri, the players we lost over summer Norton-Cuffy, Walter’s, Cozier-Dubery and Chido are levels above the current youngsters we have in their positions at the moment.

I don't necessarily agree. Chido is probably better than our youth striker options but neither BNC or Ruell Walters have ever shown as much as MLS did against Bolton. He's way better than both of them. ACD is now on loan at Blackburn and hasn't done anything to consider him a brighter talent than Nwaneri.

Time will tell though.

Guess I didn’t explain it the best way before, I said the players we lost are better than the youth players we have now just not Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri.

[TedLasso]

I see, I overlooked that part of your post and I agree. We lost a ton of depth from the academy but I'm a bit more bullish on this current crop. One of the things I loved was how well they seemed to understand the system and how Arteta likes to use each position. Nichols had a rough go in possession but his off ball movement was great. Heaven has been solid every time I've seen him.

I'm just glad Arteta is finally using them. Hopefully they get some minutes in the last couple of CL matches.

[theHotHead]

Yeah Nichols seemed to be below the level of the other 2 but became more confident as the game went on. Hopefully those minutes are enough to tell him he belongs and we can see a more assured performance the next time around

[jayramfootball]

I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players.

Giving debuts is pointless if you don't give them further game time.

Previously it was debuts that counted exclusively, with game time given to the likes of Saka and Martinelli dismissed because he didn’t give them there debut… even though they both played just a handful of games.

[DiamondGooner]

Nwaneri looks good.

I hope he can fast track because we really need cover for Odegaard for an attacking 8 ........since we sold ESR.

[theHotHead]

I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players.

Giving debuts is pointless if you don't give them further game time.

Previously it was debuts that counted exclusively, with game time given to the likes of Saka and Martinelli dismissed because he didn’t give them there debut… even though they both played just a handful of games.

It has NEVER been about debut's alone Jay, it has always been about giving the debut + game time. What's the point in giving a debut and not giving any subsequent game time ? How can that be an argument for the manager supporting the academy ?

Emery came in and gave Saka and Martinelli proper game time, Arteta "eventually" gave ESR some proper game time. Debuting a player and then leaving hem to rot is detrimental to the academy.

[TedLasso]

I think Arteta now leads in terms of the top teams for debuts given to academy players.

Giving debuts is pointless if you don't give them further game time.

Previously it was debuts that counted exclusively, with game time given to the likes of Saka and Martinelli dismissed because he didn’t give them there debut… even though they both played just a handful of games.

It has NEVER been about debut's alone Jay, it has always been about giving the debut + game time. What's the point in giving a debut and not giving any subsequent game time ? How can that be an argument for the manager supporting the academy ?

Emery came in and gave Saka and Martinelli proper game time, Arteta "eventually" gave ESR some proper game time. Debuting a player and then leaving hem to rot is detrimental to the academy.

Emery gave Saka his debut but only played him about 900 minutes. When Arteta came in, he was playing 90 minutes week in and week out. By comparison, he's played over 17,000 minutes for Arteta.

The same is true for Martinelli who only played six full 90s under Emery before getting the lions share of his minutes and development under Arteta.

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Yet to hear a player thank Arteta for his career the way we used to hear players thank Wenger.

[TedLasso]

Yet to hear a player thank Arteta for his career the way we used to hear players thank Wenger.

[jayramfootball]

Yet to hear a player thank Arteta for his career the way we used to hear players thank Wenger.

Yes, Saliba and well as many others like Saka and Odegaard have praised Arteta heavily for how he has developed them.