Yoof Development

[Marsbar100]

Nelson scored 1goal in 23 appearances last season. Not really worth the 100k.

23 games.

He got 4 G+A in just 731 minutes of football all season.
It's 10 G+A in 1321 minutes over the last 2 seasons.
Admirable as a back up rarely used.

In his 49 pl appearances he has a goal/min ratio of 321mins, nothing special.

No goals or assists in the pl last season, got goals/assists against the likes of psv and Brentford.

[jayramfootball]

Nelson scored 1goal in 23 appearances last season. Not really worth the 100k.

23 games.

He got 4 G+A in just 731 minutes of football all season.
It's 10 G+A in 1321 minutes over the last 2 seasons.
Admirable as a back up rarely used.

In his 49 pl appearances he has a goal/min ratio of 321mins, nothing special.

No goals or assists in the pl last season, got goals/assists against the likes of psv and Brentford.

Yeah you missed assists
Its a goal or assist every 130 minutes in his last 2 seasons.
Very respectable

[Marsbar100]

Nelson scored 1goal in 23 appearances last season. Not really worth the 100k.

23 games.

He got 4 G+A in just 731 minutes of football all season.
It's 10 G+A in 1321 minutes over the last 2 seasons.
Admirable as a back up rarely used.

In his 49 pl appearances he has a goal/min ratio of 321mins, nothing special.

No goals or assists in the pl last season, got goals/assists against the likes of psv and Brentford.

Yeah you missed assists
Its a goal or assist every 130 minutes in his last 2 seasons.
Very respectable

He did respectable in 22/23, last year is a disaster though, no goals/assists in the pl, we payed him 5million for that.

I still feel we need a good back up for Saka, sakas form has dipped off at the end of the last 2 seasons, he is coming of the euros to. His running stats not being as good as others, might mean he is fatigued.

[jayramfootball]

Nelson scored 1goal in 23 appearances last season. Not really worth the 100k.

23 games.

He got 4 G+A in just 731 minutes of football all season.
It's 10 G+A in 1321 minutes over the last 2 seasons.
Admirable as a back up rarely used.

In his 49 pl appearances he has a goal/min ratio of 321mins, nothing special.

No goals or assists in the pl last season, got goals/assists against the likes of psv and Brentford.

Yeah you missed assists
Its a goal or assist every 130 minutes in his last 2 seasons.
Very respectable

He did respectable in 22/23, last year is a disaster though, no goals/assists in the pl, we payed him 5million for that.

I still feel we need a good back up for Saka, sakas form has dipped off at the end of the last 2 seasons, he is coming of the euros to. His running stats not being as good as others, might mean he is fatigued.

No , Saka's form didn't dip (in fact it improved in the second half of last season and he finished it strongly) and he'll once again play the vast majority of minutes unless injured.
Nelson, of he stays, is adequate back up and has a good goal and assist rate for one that plays so little.
If he leaves, it will be hard to find someone as good who is willing to play so little.

[theHotHead]

Looks better than Nelson btw.

Stupid statement.

He did OK in a friendly game and clearly has some talent.
Comparisons on so little football - for both players - is just silly.

Yes ,but the fact that he does bring roughtly the same quality as Nelson whos 24/25* this year shows that he has to get more minutes this season off the bench to give him some much needed real game time.
Obviously hes not ready to start for Arsenal , but it's better for him to get the game time over Nelson at this point.

Didn't watch the game but if what you are saying is true then you are correct, Nwaneri should be given preference over Nelson

[Marsbar100]

Nelson scored 1goal in 23 appearances last season. Not really worth the 100k.

23 games.

He got 4 G+A in just 731 minutes of football all season.
It's 10 G+A in 1321 minutes over the last 2 seasons.
Admirable as a back up rarely used.

In his 49 pl appearances he has a goal/min ratio of 321mins, nothing special.

No goals or assists in the pl last season, got goals/assists against the likes of psv and Brentford.

Yeah you missed assists
Its a goal or assist every 130 minutes in his last 2 seasons.
Very respectable

He did respectable in 22/23, last year is a disaster though, no goals/assists in the pl, we payed him 5million for that.

I still feel we need a good back up for Saka, sakas form has dipped off at the end of the last 2 seasons, he is coming of the euros to. His running stats not being as good as others, might mean he is fatigued.

No , Saka's form didn't dip (in fact it improved in the second half of last season and he finished it strongly) and he'll once again play the vast majority of minutes unless injured.
Nelson, of he stays, is adequate back up and has a good goal and assist rate for one that plays so little.
If he leaves, it will be hard to find someone as good who is willing to play so little.

In 22/23 he got 3 g/a in his last 10pl games.

Last season he got 2 non g/a in his last 9pl games.

Had minimal productivity in the euros as well.

[Salibatelli]

I like Nelson and wanted him to succeed, but the reality of the situation is that he’s not played that much and just hasn’t really affected games when he has.

I think what you need from a sub is the ability to change or affect games, not just come on and replace someone offering minimal impact.

It might be that he needs more football of course, but at Arsenal in the current setup he’s a bit redundant and is just an additional body, he doesn’t bring anything different or valuable.

Subs that just come on and do
very little are of very little value.

[jayramfootball]

I like Nelson and wanted him to succeed, but the reality of the situation is that he’s not played that much and just hasn’t really affected games when he has.

[Salibatelli]

I like Nelson and wanted him to succeed, but the reality of the situation is that he’s not played that much and just hasn’t really affected games when he has.

I presume that’s the Bournemouth game from the season before last?

One moment of brilliance doesn’t change what I said, any player can hit a pearler once (case in point John Jensen in the Euro 92 final), it’s more about affecting games on a more regular basis by changing the flow and doing things that are impactful.

As I said I like the guy, but I also recognise he just doesn’t have enough of an impact when he does play.

[jayramfootball]

I like Nelson and wanted him to succeed, but the reality of the situation is that he’s not played that much and just hasn’t really affected games when he has.

I presume that’s the Bournemouth game from the season before last?

One moment of brilliance doesn’t change what I said, any played can hit a pearler once (case in point John Jensen in the Euro 92 final), it’s more about affecting games on a more regular basis by changing the flow and doing things that are impactful.

As I said I like the guy, but I also recognise he just doesn’t have enough of an impact when he does play.

Last year he provided the assist that got us a draw vs PSV and also scored the winner in a Cup game
Then there is Bournemouth the year before and also a great game vs Forest with 2 goals and an assist.
That's 4 games where his goals and assists have directly influenced a result.
Of course that is only taking goals and assists, where really influence goes beyond that. Simply providing energy, stretching defences and helping to close games out is also impactful.
For a player getting so few minutes that is actually pretty decent.
It's certainly not true that he has had no impact at all.

[firfi]

Why is there an argument even about him.Hes close to 25 hes never gonna be good enough to play for Arsenal.Pretty much everybody can come in and score from time to time hes direct player and he made some moments from the bench ,but overall not good enough.When u watch him play full games in LE etc he wasnt good for the club.

[theHotHead]

Why is there an argument even about him.Hes close to 25 hes never gonna be good enough to play for Arsenal.Pretty much everybody can come in and score from time to time hes direct player and he made some moments from the bench ,but overall not good enough.When u watch him play full games in LE etc he wasnt good for the club.

This !

Same goes for Nketiah, enough already, get rid and bring in some proper quality.

[jayramfootball]

Why is there an argument even about him.Hes close to 25 hes never gonna be good enough to play for Arsenal.Pretty much everybody can come in and score from time to time hes direct player and he made some moments from the bench ,but overall not good enough.When u watch him play full games in LE etc he wasnt good for the club.

This !

Same goes for Nketiah, enough already, get rid and bring in some proper quality.

'Proper quality' as in as good as the players in our first team are not coming to play the amount of minutes these two players get.
They are at the edge of the squad and as such represent high quality for players that far down the roster.
That's the part many don't seem to understand.
There still seems to be this crazy notion that we're going to have 25 stars in our squad all as good as each other.
Never heard anything so ridiculous.

[firfi]

Why is there an argument even about him.Hes close to 25 hes never gonna be good enough to play for Arsenal.Pretty much everybody can come in and score from time to time hes direct player and he made some moments from the bench ,but overall not good enough.When u watch him play full games in LE etc he wasnt good for the club.

This !

Same goes for Nketiah, enough already, get rid and bring in some proper quality.

'Proper quality' as in as good as the players in our first team are not coming to play the amount of minutes these two players get.
They are at the edge of the squad and as such represent high quality for players that far down the roster.
That's the part many don't seem to understand.
There still seems to be this crazy notion that we're going to have 25 stars in our squad all as good as each other.
Never heard anything so ridiculous.

Hes just shit and thats the truth.In any game he has played since the start of it in LE he has looked not good enough for the LE competition.He had few okay cameos as sub ,because hes direct ,but the minutes will be better spend on Nwanieri.
Safe to say he wasted his chance at top level football time to give the chance to the youngsters.

[VCC]

Best thing we are developing in the youth set up is accounting skills